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February 1 2005 at 8:39 PM
joeaaron 

 
larry,

didn't you once mention a strategy that says, something like - if a stock gaps down a large percent in one day you should buy it & hold for 3 months (or something like that).

what are those rules again - and do you think CME qualifies?

thanx.

-ja

 
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Re: big drop

February 2 2005, 4:36 AM 

Joe,

Check out SMR 67 - Panic 101...

http://www.ldholmes.com/password/smr67.htm

CME seems to qualify. I haven't used the strategy much. When I have used it, I've had mixed results. But it evidentally has a good track record.

Larry

 
 
Gary

Re: big drop

February 2 2005, 8:32 AM 

Joe,
This is just my gut feeling but I like to wait a week or two before entering and see if the stock will drop a little further (Mrk, Ebay, UPS).

Gary

 
 
Heath

Re: big drop

February 2 2005, 1:51 PM 

I agree with Gary... I have been following a system like that for a while and many of the big hits come from multiple down days or are positions that I entered in the middle of the day of the gap... and continued to go lower. (plmo, cree, ebay and even "jobs"-which has done better recently) I didn't buy UPS because I was out of available money to trade it. I think Gary is right that the system may work better if you wait a 2 days-week to buy.

Heath

 
 
Jim

Re: big drop

February 3 2005, 8:29 AM 

Larry,
This kind of relates to this thread. I placed a small short position on AMZN a couple of days ago. The stock seems to be trending down in a wide channel. If it reaches the lower level it should bottom somewhere around $30. I'm thinking of adding to the short today. My stop would be any close that fills the gap from today. I will take profits when the stock gets close to the $30 range. I think the stock is extremely overvalued and has shown no signs of being a great growth story that deserves a P/E of around 55 (of course its not going to be at 55 after today ) Does this plan sound logical or is there a better way to play this trade?

Jim

 
 

Re: big drop

February 3 2005, 12:07 PM 

Jim,

I agree with most of what you said. Amazon is in a downtrend (lower lows and lower highs). It is extremely overvalued -- maybe one of the most overvalued stocks on the board. But if I understand you right, you want to short it for a $5 profit with a $7 stop. I would have to think the odds were really in my favor before I would want to do that. I would rather short the first bounce. But you seem to be playing it well so far, so maybe you see something that I don't see.

Larry

 
 
Jim

Re: big drop

February 3 2005, 12:36 PM 

Sorry I didn't make myself clear. My stop would be anytime the stock closes in the gap formed by todays open. So basically a close above about $35.15 would stop out the trade.

Jim

 
 

Re: big drop

February 22 2005, 10:58 AM 

Since Joe brought up the Panic 101 strategy, James Altucher (who wrote the book that the strategy comes from) likes NetGear (NTGR) after yesterday's 15% drop on an earnings report that he thinks had a lot of positives. He wants to buy a partial position here and then average down.

I don't think I'll join him on this one, but I thought I would pass it along.

Larry

 
 
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