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February 9 2008 at 10:23 PM
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Can NSR be used with back ground sounds such as those produced by the brain wave generator? BrainWave Generator generates binaural beats that change your brain frequency towards the desired state, be it relaxation or enhanced attention. Thanks, Paul Sauers

 
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David Spector - NSR/USA
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Background "brainwave" sounds

February 10 2008, 1:28 AM 

Paul,

This question has been answered already. You can probably find the answer or answers by using the Search feature.

It is a good thought, but the answer is no. In actuality, there are thousands of pet techniques out there, and the same question could be asked of each of them as well. "Can I add ... to NSR and make it better? The answer is always "no".

NSR is an automatically-balanced technique that makes direct use of the natural functioning of the nervous system to transcend thought, bring a unique state of restful alertness, and incorporate that pure consciousness into daily life. Mixing ANYTHING else into it is like throwing a monkey wrench into a finely-tuned clock.

Besides, in this case, as soon as transcending starts happening, any special "outside" sound is ignored anyway. The mind doesn't like monkey wrenches!

If you feel up to experimenting with this, it might help others understand the completeness and reliability of the knowledge behind NSR. Here are some guidelines to ensure the usefulness of the experiment: try to use the "brainwave" sounds in every NSR session for several weeks (so we have a good trial) and then post the results here.

It may be useful to some people to have an objective answer than always having to take my word for it.

David Spector
Natural Stress Relief/USA

 
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Background "brainwave" sounds

February 19 2008, 10:19 PM 

I'm taking your advice and trying the NSR with the brain wave generator called 'the awakened mind' that has a blend of low frequencies between 2 to 9 Hz. I like the NSR 'as is' but just experimenting to see if there is added benefit. I understand that it might be like mixing clam chowder with bean soup (not good I wouldn't think) or might it be more like adding pieces of crab or lobster to the clam chowder (sounds better!). Thought I've been meditating for years (since I first read the Course In Miracles)I find that just after two weeks with SNR I get to a deeper level of the subconscious. I'll report back with my subjective 'results'after I've tried it for a month. Paul

 
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Dividing the attention

February 20 2008, 2:12 PM 

Paul,

Good luck with your experiment. I look forward to reading your results in a month.

For everyone else, and to avoid any possible confusion, let me emphasize that we do not recommend dividing the attention in this way. Only by following the directions in the manual will the deepest and most natural results be obtained.

David Spector
Natural Stress Relief/USA

 
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Gavin, South Africa
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Re: Dividing the attention

February 21 2008, 4:38 AM 

Sorry if this sounds smartass, but to me it is simply silly to learn a very specific, well-researched, profound technique like TM or NSR and then start messing with it by incorporating other processes like having artifically created sound frequencies playing in the background. I have listened to and watched many, many, audios and videos by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi - including the long and thorough Science of Creative Intelligence video course - and the depth of understanding of the mechanics of the transcending process make such sense that it is almost a 'sin' to tamper with the process. Having said that, it will indeed be interesting to see Paul's comments after his experiment. It should be borne in mind though, that such comments would not be in respect of the Natural Stress Relief method as such, but of a hybrid process using an aspect of the NSR technique; for if anything is added to NSR, then the process is no longer NSR. But good luck anyway, Paul. I hope youn gain good benefits.

And on that note I climb off my soapbox.

Gavin
Long-term (1975) TM meditator and TM-Sidha
Cape Town

 
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