Now, in defense of armenians.com and any Turk can come here and dare to answer me.
Armenians.com is a private site owned by an individual that pays the host, the address etc... very expensive, Turkey.com is owned by a compagny called virtualcountries, this compagny is there to make money, the publicity compagnies pay them everytime there is a hit on those sites.
This is a very big distinction, Hyeforum is open as a "world" itself, Turkey.com is part of the many other sites of other countries from virtualcountries.com, all those sites are interelated with eachothers. Armenians.com as a private site dedicated to the Armenians around the world as a platforum to communicate, and others to come here and join as well, Turkey.com on the other hand, its goal is to sell its publicity and make money from it.
Now, this individual hidden behind his many aliases go at Turkey.com and "expose" our "racism," I chalange anyone to go at
http://www.us-israel.org/wwwboard/wwwboard.html Deny the Holocaust and post what this alias Knight has posted by reverting the word "Armenian" as "Jew" "Ottoman" as "German" And if you are not answered the same way you have been answered by some Armenians, come here and call me a liar.
Many of those Armenians had their parents and their grandparents as survivors of the genocide, and anyone denying a genocide is less than a dog.
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No one stopped Knigh on expressing his freedom of speech, no one posted pornographic materials and accused him of having done so to assassinate his caracter, no Turk can have the face to go at Turkey.com and show Hyeforum as a racist one.
Read, and see what the individual presently the Administrator of Turkey.com has written about Armenians, and find any post from Garo that could be compared to these.
Here, those words have been said by the individual that is now assuming the responsability of Turkey.com
"Trust a jew before you trust a greek,
trust a snake before you trust an Armenian."
"Trust a snake before a Jew, a Jew before a Greek, and never trust an Armenian."
"here is the link you need to go to F.uckFace Fadi !!!
Next time go & do your own f.ucking re-search about what kind of creature you are ."
"I do not trust your kind whatsoever. Whole of Turkey does trust any one of you Armenians that live abroad."
"AN ARMENIAN B.ITCH THAT DOES HAVE NO CLUE !!!"
Calling the Armenians "pillocks" Among other names.
"I am laughing so hard i think i may have a permanent smile on my face. Dream on you gullible pillocks , Moscow is laughing it's pants of ...yet again."
Generalizing the entire Armenian population as a terrorist nation.
"It is only logical for Armenians to have done what PKK Kurds are doing
today."
"it would not surprise me that if Armenians of ww1 were acting in the same
way as PKK KURDS ."
Going as far as stereotyping the Armenians to the point of believing that
every terrorist should have Armenian blood. Here an example, accusing the
Kurdish PKK leader as being an Armenian.
"FOR YOUR INFORMATION THERE IS A RUMOUR IN TURKEY WHICH SAYS APO'S MOTHER
or FATHER WAS AN ARMENIAN. I DO NOT KNOW WHETHER THIS IS TRUE OR NOT. IF IT
WAS TRUE I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED AT ALL."
When there is some people giving their opinion in the Russian issue,
attacking the Russians and calling it. "Typical Russian Bulls.hit"
Always attacking people that disagree with him as typical pathological
cases.
"Get Well soon i was going to say , but now i think you are a lost cause &
there is not even a single doctor i know thah wouldn't commit you to a
hospital ward for due attention & care."
"You are a shame on humanity & you breed hate & consequently disasters shall come your way.
Shame it is history is repeating itself once again. Russians are loving every bit of it."
"Child raping is the specialty of Europeans. Only they call it " Lolita"
syndrome."
"Xenophobic & Racist F.uck like most of the Christians even today."
"As to your granpa being a "Traitor" to his nation , i am not taking
anything back, he sure was a disgrace & I am glad his seed does not live
amongs us anymore."
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Now, I ask any Turks to find any similair things said by the Administrator of this board or the moderators, here it was few examples I kept saved, many other examples could be found, racist comments from the moderators there, no similair things could be found here, in fact, one has to go at any Israeli sites and read what they call deniers, or how the Arabs are treated, and compare it with what us Armenians have said about the Turks, its comparing an ocean with a lake.
Now, shall I post what other moderators have said ? Shall I post our Muradye, the idiot following me for years ? Our Kni... oups again...
Now, a little description for everyone here, to read what happened at Turkey.com, and then to tell me if any Turks at Turkey.com could have the face to criticise this board.
Here it comes.
I was one of the oldest member of Turkey.com/forums, when I registered I respected every rules presented to me, and when I pressed on "I agree" I did agree, one time in the past I said something racist, and I appologised just after, without anyone telling it to me. Then one individual came by the alias Circassian, a type "real" clinical cases, one reading his posts and bringing them to a psychiatrist, the words "Delusional Psychotic Personality disorder, with schizoaffective bipolar tendencies" will come as possible diagnosis.
Well, this guy, the racist individual was the same that years ago registered here in armenians.com, and not respecting the rules has been kicked out(has been kicked out for something, unlike me), then one day virtualcountries has been bough, and everything changed, in fact Circassian compagny came close and had affairs with this new compagny(he himself said that at Turkey.com), and what happened ? The individual that already had a warning from Turkey.com for his racist comments became a moderator, disgusted from that, disgusted from the fact that this moron(sorry for that expression, no other word could be found) had now access to every IP address became a moderator, I PMed the Administrator and asked him, how come an individual that does not respect the rules of Virtualcountries.com, and already having recieved a warning became a moderator, I presented him few of the things he wrote, the Administrator ignored my request, I then wrote and said that I don't want to be a part of the board anymore.
When I said I don't want to be part of those board anymore because Circassian became a moderator, I was banned, I was never banned because I did not respect the rules of virtualcountries, I was banned because I emailed and criticised the Administrator and said I don't want to be part of the board. Later, I changed my mind and logged another account, the Administrator seing that said that he saw I changed my idea and now I would participate.
Now, again, I respected every rules, new moderators such as Da-Director, another racist, were made, and then after that, my posts just got deleted without reasons, some times the claim was that they were deleted by "accidents" other times, no reason at all, other times, it was like the thread never existed, and finaly... what happened, I was banned, no reason given, nada, I was just banned, even not a warning, even not an email, I registered again, the new registration was baned and its posts deleted, my IP blocked.
Now, they claim I was not banned because of my opinions, this is the most ridiculous lie they could come with... Those happened while I had discussion with the alias Togarma, my arguments deleted, but his were still intact, and him claiming to have won the arguments, of course, when you take the arms of one and you left arms on the hand of another, the one without arm will have the shut.
A lot later, I decided to take actions, and seing the intensities of a new wave of denial(each time I am gone from there, denialists just pupupps, when I appear, they disapear), and racism, I decided to take another login, this time the alias "Yolla," and present the case possibly to the ADL.
I started the argumentation and exposed thos denialists, and after the 100st post I admited being Fadi and said my intention to show how I was answered to the ADL.
I was gone, now those people all screaming accusing Phantom of knowing that, with conspiration theories has to find a way to not be exposed for their racism, they came with an ingenious idea that even impressed me. An individual under the alias "Mother of Circassian" appeared, posting pornographic materials, who hated Circassian more then anyone else ? Fadi of course, who would be the prime suspect ? Again, Fadi. But, why would Fadi thinking of presenting the cases to the ADL would post such things just after ? Why would he destroy his own cases ? For what ? I mean, imagine that the ADL come and see what happened, and see those pronographic materials, and DA_ screaming hard that something must be done and that the Turks were again victims from such people posting such thing... the poor innocents screaming hard and hard... why ? Because Fadi would present the cases, what a good idea, you know that Circassian posts and behavoures would be presented to the ADL, just log as Moder of Circassian and post pornographic materials, and as defense say: "Look what they done, they attacked my mother, I just answered them" playing the victims.
Just after that, Yolla reloged, and ? He was openly accused of being the individual having posted those pornographic pics... When Yolla(me), asked for evidences, none were given, I requested that the IP address be shown, I requested that if a Proxy was used to contact the server of the Proxy and see if my IP address was logged on. NADA ! Nothing, they ignored my requests, I asked them to appologise, no appologies given, nothing, when I started discussing with members, they started laughing telling "Oh you are the guy posting pornographic pictures" They assassinated my caracters, and no appologies give.
Circassian even claimed to Phantom that the IP address were mine, but an hour later he deleted the entire thread where he said that, because on another forum I said to Phantom Circassian is lying and I requested that immidiatly the IP address to be shown.
Finally, Circassian was made Administrator, and the evidences are there, while he was logged new Moderators were formed, under that account, moderators were deformed, under that account, only someone having Administratif powers would do that... and now he hide himself as a simple "moderator."
Now, what happened later ? Well, the Yolla account was deleted, every posts made by Yolla were deleted, beside deleting entire threads, deleting posts, deleting new registered log-ins and all their posts, Yolla exposition and every extensive studies, from rare books dating back of the 20's, quoting how denialists manipulate those works, entirly deleted.
The United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights(proclamation of December 10, 1948), in its Article 19, stat:
Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
My Universal rights were not respected.
Ah, and what happened later ? Well, When I said that I will search for what really happened with the pornographic materials, after that moderators refused to appologise, and that this would mean that they probably know something about Circassian participation. Two moderators left their titles, DA_ left, Museum changed her alias, when I didn't gave any sign of life, they just popup out again, DA_ after unregistering became again a moderator, and Museum retook her previous login as moderator.
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This is the story of Turkey.com
This kind of thing, NEVER EVER could happen here, no one could have the face to criticise hyeforum
As for Muradye the 42 years old man runging after me for years... I have nothing to say, other than more quicker he decide to treat his Multiple Personality disorder the better. This guy logged a new account in Turkey.com, this Muradye months later after that account became moderator...
Hate Fadi, and you will authomatically become a moderator there(Turkey.com).