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British Econmy in a Slump

September 3 2008 at 11:09 AM

Eryx  (Login Eric_De_La_Legion)
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Haha. Lucky we tied ours to the German's.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/07/03/business/ukecon.php



PARIS: A housing market in shambles, inflation at the highest level in years and signs that the economy is headed for, or already in, recession. Sound familiar?

The British economy, like its counterpart across the Atlantic, has fallen on hard times, and in many ways the experience appears to be mirroring that in the United States. Indeed, the run last September on a British mortgage lender, Northern Rock, was one of the events that helped to embed the terms "credit crisis" firmly into the global consciousness.

"A recession is more likely than not by the end of the year," Peter Newland, who covers the British economy for Lehman Brothers in London, said Thursday, summarizing a recent string of dismal economic data that have led economists to revise their growth forecasts downward. "Activity seems to be declining across the economy," he said.

The FTSE 100, the benchmark London stock index, has fallen about 19 percent from the high of 6,732.4 that it hit in June 2007 - just short of the 20 percent decline that is commonly said to define a bear market. It gained 50.3 points, or 0.93 percent, to close at 5,476.9 on Thursday.

Consumer confidence is the lowest since 1990, as oil prices drive toward $150 a barrel and unemployment has risen for the past four months.

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In a written statement to a parliamentary committee Wednesday, Charlie Bean, deputy governor of the central bank, called the current situation "the most challenging set of circumstances since at least the early 1990s and possibly earlier."

The main force dragging down the British economy is the collapse of the once red-hot housing market, which enriched many Britons as long as credit flowed nearly as cheaply as in the United States.

According to Nationwide Building Society, a leading British mortgage lender, housing prices have fallen for eight straight months. In June, they fell 6.3 percent from a year earlier, the biggest drop since 1992, taking the price of a "typical" British home down to £172,415, or about $343,000 - a decline of more than £13,500 from the top of the market.

The British central bank said Monday that mortgage approvals in May were at the weakest level on record - only 42,000 for all of Britain, down from 58,000 in April.

As the housing market sputters, consumers have retrenched. Shares in Marks & Spencer, the iconic British retailer regarded as a bellwether of the domestic economy, plunged more than 25 percent in two days after it reported a sharp decline in sales.

Gordon Brown, the beleaguered prime minister, sought to look on the bright side, while acknowledging that the remarkable run of prosperity over the previous decade or so has hit a wall.

"The task at the moment is to keep the economy moving forward," he said Thursday, speaking to a parliamentary committee in London. He expressed confidence that the British economy was "far more resilient than it was facing the last two oil shocks and facing some of the problems we had when there was a world downturn in the early 90s."

But that seems little consolation to the British today. Unions are agitating for higher wages, even as inflation rose at a 3.3 percent annual rate in May, above the 3 percent upper limit of the Bank of England's comfort zone.

And despite the growing distress of British workers and businesses, economists hold out little hope of monetary policy relief. Economists surveyed this week by Reuters were unanimous in predicting that Mervyn King, the Bank of England governor, and his colleagues on the Monetary Policy Committee would hold rates unchanged at their meeting next Thursday. Only 23 of the poll of 72 economists surveyed this week forecast lower rates by year-end, down from 41 of 62 a few weeks ago.

"Wherever you look at the moment, the data are pretty worrying," Howard Archer, an economist at Global Insight in London, said. "It's a terribly difficult position for the Bank of England." The central bank's main interest rate target, at 5 percent, is already the highest among G-7 countries.

Economists said the economy was lagging slightly behind the U.S. business cycle. The Federal Reserve has moved aggressively, cutting its main rate target to 2 percent currently from 5.25 percent last summer, and Congress moved quickly to enable 130 million households to receive tax rebate checks as part of a $168 billion stimulus program.

In contrast, the British government has little leeway to spend its way out of any slump. The public purse is constrained by two rules - the so-called "golden rule," in which the government borrows only to invest and not to fund current spending, and the sustainable investment rule, in which public sector debt is to be held stable at "a stable and prudent level."



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Middle kingdom(China)

Re: British Econmy in a Slump

September 3 2008, 11:23 AM 

"""""""""""""Coca-Cola makes $2.5 billion bid for Chinese juice maker"""""""""""""

Thats interesting


 
 
Anonymous
(Login utalkin2me)
RedCoats(UK)

Re: British Econmy in a Slump

September 3 2008, 11:56 AM 

Quote:
Haha. Lucky we tied ours to the German's.


And tell me, when was the last time France had 16 years of continous of economic growth?.

In 2008 the UK economy has still grown more than the French Economy.

The UK still has a FAR LOWER unemployment rate than France.

The UK defecit is still only 40% compared to the French 71%.

Eurozone inflation is still HIGHER than UK inflation.




You worry about your country, you still have FAR bigger problems than us.








 
 

(Login Landos)
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Re: British Econmy in a Slump

September 3 2008, 3:37 PM 

The Brits are going down, GOING DOWN...!!!


 
 

(Login utalkin2me)
RedCoats(UK)

Re: British Econmy in a Slump

September 3 2008, 4:08 PM 


Do let us know when we have sunk as low as Greece....lol.



    
This message has been edited by utalkin2me on Sep 3, 2008 4:08 PM


 
 

(Login Landos)
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Re: British Econmy in a Slump

September 3 2008, 9:29 PM 

You still working the stalls in Soho girlyboy?



    
This message has been edited by Landos on Sep 3, 2008 9:31 PM


 
 
Anonymous
(Login utalkin2me)
RedCoats(UK)

Re: British Econmy in a Slump

September 3 2008, 9:36 PM 

Right next to your mother, you Greek cvntmonkey.....



 
 

(Login Landos)
EXPERT POSTER

Re: British Econmy in a Slump

September 4 2008, 3:38 AM 

INsulting family is against forum rules. I'll give you 24 hours to delete it before I report your skanky ass.


 
 
Anonymous
(Login utalkin2me)
RedCoats(UK)

Re: British Econmy in a Slump

September 4 2008, 9:13 AM 

I should imagine the only insult to your family is every time they see you.....


 
 

Rzecz
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Re: British Econmy in a Slump

September 4 2008, 9:52 AM 

Right next to your mother, you Greek cvntmonkey.....

Warning issued to you, utalkin2me. Do not under any circumstances go personal.

Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind us—immensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."


 
 
Anonymous
(Login utalkin2me)
RedCoats(UK)

Re: British Econmy in a Slump

September 4 2008, 12:57 PM 

Quote:
Do not under any circumstances go personal.


Well going by that, That Greek Pr1ck should be on about 50 warnings by now.

Get real and apply the rules fairly.


 
 

(Login Landos)
EXPERT POSTER

Re: British Econmy in a Slump

September 4 2008, 4:44 PM 

You can attack me, not my family fool. That clear enough for you?


 
 
Anonymous
(Login utalkin2me)
RedCoats(UK)

Re: British Econmy in a Slump

September 4 2008, 4:51 PM 

BooHoo...mwahahaha....BooHoo!!!!!!!!!!!

Little greek gayboy crybaby goes running to the mods....

You said your mother was British, you insult the British everyday, calling us everything and anything.

so STFU, and stop being such a little cry baby and being such a two faced hypocrite.

Your mother must be so ashamed to have a little bitch like you for a pathetic excuse for a ladyboy son.

And that was insulting YOU, not your Mother.




 
 


(Login arsenal100)
RedCoats(UK)

Re: British Econmy in a Slump

September 4 2008, 6:11 PM 

Do let us know when we have sunk as low as Greece....lol.








If you're right, no one remembers. If you're wrong, no one forgets.

 
 

Rzecz
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Moderators

Re: British Econmy in a Slump

September 4 2008, 7:30 PM 

@ utalkin2me

Show me where Landos insulted your family or personally insulted you and I will take action. Otherwise grow some thicker skin. People are allowed to insult nationalities here, so long as it is kept 'civilised' (ie, don't use the N word or other racist words against forumers) as this is not against the rules.

You cannot however insult someone's family or personally insult someone. In time you'll probably become as good as Landos at bypassing this rule.

Siege of Tobruk - One German POW said: "I cannot understand you Australians. In Poland, France, and Belgium, once the tanks got through the soldiers took it for granted that they were beaten. But you are like demons. The tanks break through and your infantry still keep fighting." Rommel wrote of seeing "a batch of some fifty or sixty Australian prisoners ... marched off close behind us—immensely big and powerful men, who without question represented an elite formation of the British Empire, a fact that was also evident in battle."


 
 

(Login utalkin2me)
RedCoats(UK)

Re: British Econmy in a Slump

September 4 2008, 7:59 PM 

Quote:
In time you'll probably become as good as Landos at bypassing this rule.


Do you not realise how incredibly dumb that statement is.

Your saying Landos breaks the rules by going around them.....it doesnt make sense, either he breaks the rules or he doesnt...?!?!!!!

If thats the case, the forum rules arent worth sh1t.

 
 
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