This is a snapshot from a video on India news web.

I am wondering why Indian media are so offensive and are eager to be in a war with China.

No Chinese will believe they were left by any PLA since all PLA get at least high school education now. Also the meaning of the characters are not China as claimed. its meaning is :Middle yellow river.

India media are now simply fake some news and cheat Indians. HAHA.

Jesus Christ, the Indian media can't even fake semi-real looking characters? The third word can't possibly be written by a Chinese person.


Whoever said winning isn't everything must be a loser...

Why does the Indian army love to fake encounters, do they have no pride at all.

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No, this was faked by Indian media. Indian army denied the report.

Looks like I got mix up with those fake encounters in Kashmir

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I will admit that the Indian media is made up mostly of sensationalist bigots and morons.

Long Live India

And chinese media is not sensationalist ? Why do they conduct fake online polls to show India as a threat to China ?


http://opinion.globaltimes.cn/top-photo/2009-06/436522.html

90% in online poll believe India threatens China's security Source:

The Global Times [07:56 June 12 2009] Comments By Zhu Shanshan


An online poll conducted by huanqiu.com on June 10 shows that 90 percent of participants believe India poses a big threat to China after India announced it would dispatch 60,000 troops to the border with China.

About 74 percent people in the poll by huanqiu.com believed China should not maintain the friendly relations with India anymore after its military provocation


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How is a poll sensationalist? You put up a poll, people vote and you report the results.


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Talk about sensational LOL look at this










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\\How is a poll sensationalist? You put up a poll, people vote and you report the results.\\



Conducting a poll on such a sensitive topic and asking them whether India is a threat or not is definately being sensationalist.This poll will create a bad opinion of India in ordinary chinese people.

BTW, Are you suggesting that chinese poll is real and 90% of participants who participated in that poll really beleive India is a threat to China ? If that poll and its results are real, then that brings a whole different dimension to this issue.

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Of course the poll is real, what basis do you have to suggest that such a poll isn't? As far as I'm concerned (I live in China right now for school), India is the biggest provocateur to China, your media regularly suggests intrusions into Chinese airspace and Chinese territory by your army and airforce, of course we'd think that India is the biggest threat to Chinese security. Read what this thread is about, when Chinese people read articles like this, what do you think the Chinese people feel (and don't tell me that Chinese people can't read English)? Indian media making up sensationalist stories to badmouth and ridicule China definitely contributes to the bad image of India.


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\\Of course the poll is real, what basis do you have to suggest that such a poll isn't?\\


When that chinese news report was posted in WAFF sometime back, WAFF chinese then were adament that the poll must have been fake since chinese in general dont regard India as a threat at all since they dont care about India.I was very happy to hear that then.There is no way i can know that poll is real or fake. I just took WAFF chinese word for granted.Now if you saying that the poll is for real and chinese consider India as a threat, then it is not good at all both for chinese and Indians.The last thing India needs right now is another pakistan like situation on the east and the last thing the chinese need is another taiwan like situation on the west.


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\\As far as I'm concerned (I live in China right now for school), India is the biggest provocateur to China, your media regularly suggests intrusions into Chinese airspace and Chinese territory by your army and airforce,of course we'd think that India is the biggest threat to Chinese security\\


When did Indian planes or troops intruded into chinese airspace and territory or when did Indian media suggested that Indian planes and troops should intrude into chinese territory? Can you show a proff for what you are saying ?

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\\when Chinese people read articles like this, what do you think the Chinese people feel (and don't tell me that Chinese people can't read English)? Indian media making up sensationalist stories to badmouth and ridicule China definitely contributes to the bad image of India.\\

When chinese media conducts polls about India being a threat to china and publishes articles critising India and ridiculing Indian acheivements, what do you think Indian people think of china ? I dont think Indian media alone is responsible for sensationalising things.

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Without the sensationalism..how will the amry get the politicans to actually get them the weapons they want ON TIME..



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There's no article from China critisizing what India has achieved, whatever you hear is mostly just Chinese/Indian Internet fanboys flaming at each other and pissing each other off, we get plenty of that in WAFF.

Up until a month or two ago, no one in China cared much about India and news about India was infrequent and mostly just international news, however in the recent past with India's surge of 60000 troops, hundreds of tanks and an airforce squadron right near the border of Tibet aimed directly at China has been seen as provocative and very militaristic. The recent surge of India related news is a direct result of the Indian military deployment, if India wants to start a war of course the media would report about it. Then the Indian media makes BS stories like the Chinese characters articles fans up Chinese nationalism.

The Taiwan situation is getting better by the day and Taiwan is no longer the most pressing threat of PRC, India on the other hand is climbing its way up the threat ladder especially with a provocative military attitude. China will fight a war in the not too distant future, it might be in the South China Sea, or with India. If India's military gets too aggressive, I suspect PLA will launch another quick surgical war to calm the Indian front. China is on the verge that its defense spending also requires justification, a military sitting on its butt all day isn't a military after all, they need to prove themselves in combat and India could be a possible target.

The sensationalist Indian news is probably an effort to justify the massive defence procurement of India despite failing domestic efforts. The Indian government needs a darn good explanation and a pressing one too to make all the weapons deals seem necessary.


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Both the question and answer are in your above comment,,

Question:
WHY--- "" India's surge of 60000 troops, hundreds of tanks and an airforce squadron right near the border of Tibet aimed directly at China. ""

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"" China is on the verge that its defense spending also requires justification, a military sitting on its butt all day isn't a military after all, they need to prove themselves in combat and India could be a possible target. ""

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India will never attack China,, Its only shoring up the defenses against a stronger and more assertive China, that lays claim to 90000 sq km of Indian territory.

Most people in India wish that China accept Line of Control as Intel Border,, and both of us can move on ,,,, but then Chingpongs dont want to listen ,, !!!!

\\There's no article from China critisizing what India has achieved, whatever you hear is mostly just Chinese/Indian Internet fanboys flaming at each other and pissing each other off, we get plenty of that in WAFF.\\

The chinese media is no less hostile to India as proven by their real or fake internet polls dipicting India as a threat and their articles which are hostile to any Indian moves in its self defence.

http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90001/90777/90851/6676088.html

India's unwise military moves




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\\Up until a month or two ago, no one in China cared much about India and news about India was infrequent and mostly just international news, however in the recent past with India's surge of 60000 troops, hundreds of tanks and an airforce squadron right near the border of Tibet aimed directly at China has been seen as provocative and very militaristic.\\


If India wants to improve its self defence for its own security, why should china consider it as "militaristic" ? Didnt china conducted its largest ever military exercise in tibet recently ? If the Chinese consider Indian beefing up its own security as provocative, then India considers the chinese military exercises in Tibet as provocative.



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\\The Taiwan situation is getting better by the day and Taiwan is no longer the most pressing threat of PRC, India on the other hand is climbing its way up the threat ladder especially with a provocative military attitude. China will fight a war in the not too distant future, it might be in the South China Sea, or with India. If India's military gets too aggressive, I suspect PLA will launch another quick surgical war to calm the Indian front. China is on the verge that its defense spending also requires justification, a military sitting on its butt all day isn't a military after all, they need to prove themselves in combat and India could be a possible target.\\


You just now gave enough reasons why India should increase its own defense spending and beef up its own security for its own defense.Then why blame Indian media or anyone else ? If china wants to fight India, its will anyway do it irrespective of what India does.The Indians hope it wont happen but they have to be prepared for that eventuality.And that is presicely the reason why they are beefing up their presence near china border.If you want to blame anyone, blame this chinese mentality of yours.

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\\The sensationalist Indian news is probably an effort to justify the massive defence procurement of India despite failing domestic efforts. The Indian government needs a darn good explanation and a pressing one too to make all the weapons deals seem necessary.\\

How can you blame India for its defense modernisation when you yourself said in your post that china might fight India to justify its defence spending ?



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Its not sensationalism, its practical common sense. And i am glad that instead of wasting their time on a beggar starving country where ppl get killed for food - read AP forum- the media is highlighting the China threat.

What is phuckistan without china and US? NOTHING. Chna has superpower ambitions and a strong prosperous India is the last thing they want to see.

China opposed Indias nuclear test (though they themselves have hundreds of it)

China opposed Indo-US nuclear deal inspite of assuring Delhi that it will support the deal (deal makes China nervous that India-US will get closer and team against China)

China opposed Indias request fro loan from ADB for Arunachal saying Arunachal Pradesh is Chinese. If a sanskitised name like Arunachal pradesh can b chinese whats wrong with the stone pic?

In late 50s the loser Nehru was basking in the "success" of panchsheel and the success of "hindi-chini bhai bhai" (india chinese brothers), the retard Nehru thought he scripted peace. In 1962 he got a rude wake up call for China and India was caught with its pants down, for China it was well planned but for India to b attacked by China inspite of all these euphoria is akin to Canada getting attacked by USA, completely out of blue.

It was completely unexpected, the political leadership was at a loss (more so because they were weak) and china managed to walk away claiming victory.

I say better safe then sorry, even today TIMES OF INDIA reported firing on Indian border by China where 2 ITBF jawans were injured, daily incursions by China into Arunachal.

Its high time India woke up to the China threat.




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By October the full compliment of Sukhoi's will be deployed at Tezpur! This is very, very fast by Indian standards, the highways are being modernised and mountain divisions have been raised at lightning pace!

The guys up top surely have an inkling of things that are going to happen in the not too distant future. I say till the 2014 timeframe. After that the conventional gap will tilt into India's favor and China will not be in a position to be an aggressor.


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If India's defences remain stagnant as it is China will probably launch war by 2015. When we say war the scare mongers and the chinese cocksuckers in Indian media (we have plenty of that too which China knows but does not acknowledge) claim that Chinese troops wont b marching into Delhi.

Of course not, even phuckistani troops wont b marching into Delhi. All these are 18th century stuff, wars these days are like psychological operations. If China alters the border equation in its favour by military strength then they have fought and won a war, war can be China attacking Arunachal border areas and annexng 100 sq km land by force. And if Indian politicians try to sweep these things under the carpet then they should b shot for treason.

China as a culture hates appeasement and considers it sign of weakness. India is doing exactly that, appeasing China.




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jWithout the sensationalism..how will the amry get the politicans to actually get them the weapons they want ON TIME..

LIKE THIS ???


India wakes up to Chinese threat


Better late than never! The government has finally woken up to the China threat and its incursions into the Indian territory. Even as National Security Adviser MK Narayanan holds a high-level meeting here tomorrow to take stock of the situation on the Indo-China border, the Indian armed forces claim to be handicapped due to paucity of the latest weaponry needed in the event of any skirmish.

Shockingly, as the countrys top most strategic planners finalise Indias response, the forces are saddled with weapons that are of 1970s and 1980s vintage. Hardly, the ones needed to ensure military domination.

The NSAs meeting is likely to be attended by Cabinet Secretary KM Chandrashekhar, Defence Secretary Pradeep Kumar, Home Secretary GK Pillai, Foreign Secretary Nirupama Rao, services chiefs and top officials of intelligence agencies. At least Army Chief Gen Deepak Kapoor may not be able to make it since he is not in the capital, sources here said.

Narayanan is Indias point man for ties with China in his capacity as Indias special representative for talks on the lingering boundary dispute. The External Affairs ministry has sought to play down the latest incursions by China, saying there was a difference in perception between the two countries on the delineation of the line of actual control (LAC). The strategic establishment, however, is worried over the frequency with which these violations have been taking place.

Sources said the armed forces will plead in the meeting for taking urgent steps to replace the weapons. Take a look: One variety of the Air defence guns placed along the Sino-Indian border are of 1974 vintage and can fire only till 5000 feet. Another variety was inducted in the 1980s.

The surface-to-air missiles, considered a deadly weapon in the mountains, were bought in the 1980s while another purchase was made in 1990s. The major purchase of self propelled guns, though not deployed in high mountains, were carried out the last time in 1975 while another small quantity was purchased in 1995.

In the case of the big guns of the artillery, the last purchase was in 1985 when the Bofors was procured. Since then India has started the process a few times but did not finalise anything. The project to purchase the ultra light howitzer, that can be slung under a chopper and dropped anywhere in the high mountains, has been put in cold storage.

Meanwhile, amidst mounting tensions, the annual Indo-China military exercise between the two countries is not likely to be conducted this year. As per the agreed rotation policy, it was Chinas turn to host it this year. However, no dates have been conveyed so far. Normally, by this time the dates are decided and all logistics are in place.



China wants to keep its options open

by G. Parthasarathy

ONE abiding feature of our relations with China is our propensity to swing from elation and ecstasy to despondency and despair. Shortly after the visit of Prime Minister Wen Jiabao to India in April 2005, our media, China scholars and sections of our Mandarin-speaking mandarins proclaimed that the festering boundary question with China was all but resolved. The Manmohan Singh-Wen Jiabao Declaration asserted that India-China relations had acquired global and strategic significance and that the two countries would establish a strategic and cooperative partnership for peace and prosperity.

An agreement laying down Political Parameters and Guiding Principles for resolving the border issue said that while respecting the Line of Actual Control, India and China would reach a boundary settlement which shall safeguard due interests of their settled populations in the border areas, while using modern cartographic and surveying practices and joint surveys. Our scholars and media ecstatically proclaimed that the reference to settled populations in border areas meant that China had given up its claims to Tawang in Arunachal Pradesh. They were in for a rude shock. Within a year China started publicly and aggressively asserting that the whole of Arunachal was a part of South Tibet.

While talks on resolving the border issue have continued regularly after the visit of Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi to China in December 1988, the problem of Chinese intrusions into our territory arises from the fact that while the Line of Control is defined and demarcated by mutual agreement between India and Pakistan in Jammu and Kashmir, the Line of Actual Control (LOAC), which both sides have pledged to determine and respect, along the China-India border, has never been demarcated. It was decided that the issue of demarcation would be addressed by India and China exchanging maps about the precise location of the LOAC and reconciling differences through negotiations. While maps were exchanged on the Central Sector (adjoining Uttarakhand) and India provided its maps on the LOAC in the western sector (Ladakh) to China in 2002, China refused to provide maps outlining its version of where the LOAC lies, either on the western sector (Ladakh) or the eastern sector (Sikkim and Arunachal Pradesh). In the face of this impasse, it was decided in 2003 that the two countries would seek a political solution to the border issue.

It is evident that despite having agreed in principle that there could not be any change in the status of populated areas in 2005, China is now insistent that it would expect territorial concessions in the populated eastern sector, if it is to accommodate Indian claims in Ladakh. Because of the importance of Tawang as a Buddhist Monastery town, where the sixth Dalai Lama was born, China seeks control of Tawang to secure a fig leaf of legitimacy for its rule in Tibet. India has flatly rejected Chinese claims to Tawang, with Mr Pranab Mukherjee asserting: Any elected Government in India is not permitted by our Constitution to part with any part of our land that sends representatives to the Indian Parliament.

Thus, as long as China remains insistent on its claims in Arunachal Pradesh, there can be no settlement of the border issue. India has also indicated that it intends to improve communications near and along its land borders with China, boost its military presence in Arunachal Pradesh and also strengthen its eastern air defences. The entire problem of border intrusions today arises from the fact that China wishes to keep its options open by not spelling out where, in its view, the LOAC lies, so that it can continue to intrude, at a time and place of its choosing, into populated areas in Arunachal Pradesh and Ladakh and undermine public confidence in our border areas, in New Delhis will and ability to defend our territorial integrity.

Apart from border issues, China has made every effort to undermine Indian security interests in recent years. Pakistan is being assisted by China in boosting its nuclear weapons capabilities by supply of plutonium reactors and reprocessing facilities. Chinese supplies of ballistic and cruise missiles to Pakistan continue, as does the supply of fighter aircraft and frigates. China assists Pakistan-sponsored terrorism by blocking moves in the UN Security Council for action against the Jamat-ud-Dawa and the head of the Jaish-e-Mohammed, Hafiz Mohammed Sayed.

While pledging aid for hydro-electric projects in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir, China seeks to block assistance for economic development in Arunachal Pradesh in the Asian Development Bank, on the ground that its status is disputed. More ominously, there is now evidence that China is using areas controlled by its protégés in the Kachin State of Myanmar to arm and train our north-eastern insurgent groups in Manipur and elsewhere, in its Yunnan province. One sees similar actions by China to undermine Indias relations with Nepal. Despite this, our mandarins glibly talk of a strategic and cooperative partnership with China.

There are areas like climate change, the WTO talks and the development of a multi-polar world order, where India and China have shared interests. Chinas actions along Indias land and maritime frontiers and its efforts to undermine Indias regional influence by its policies in countries like Pakistan and Nepal will, however, remain sources of differences. We landed ourselves in disaster in 1962 because we glossed over the realities and misled public opinion domestically and globally. Our mandarins in South Block will do well to remember this when misrepresenting and avoiding a focus on the realities of our relations with China. We should, however, avoid resorting to rhetoric that escalates tensions.

Our Ministry of Defence unfortunately delays action on the acquisition of crucial equipment like fighter aircraft and artillery. Actions speak louder than words. Rather that talking about how we propose to increase troop levels, or modernise our air defences along our borders with China, we should act to expeditiously strengthen defences and road communication networks along our borders. In the meantime, there should be a continuing dialogue and exchanges with China aimed at ensuring that incidents which escalate tensions do not occur along our borders.

We should remember that China still has festering disputes on its maritime boundaries with Japan, Vietnam, Indonesia, the Philippines, Brunei and Malaysia and that China settles its border disputes only when a weakened neighbour succumbs to its pressures. In the meantime, China does not hesitate to assert its presence across disputed boundaries with militarily weaker neighbours the like Japan, the Philippines and Vietnam. The Chinese respect national power and will respect India only if our economic and military strength warrants respect for us as a people and as a country.

Dalai Lama can visit Arunachal: Krishna


External Affairs Minister SM Krishna on Wednesday dismissed Chinas objections to Dalai Lamas proposed visit to Arunachal Pradesh later this year, and said that the Tibetan leader is free to go anywhere in India.Arunachal Pradesh is a part of India and Dalai Lama is free to go anywhere in India, Krishna told a news channel here. The only question is that he is not expected to comment on political developments, Krishna said.

Dalai Lama has sought the Indian governments permission to visit Tawang, a monastery town in AP, which is claimed by China.Tibets exiled leader plans to go there in November to inaugurate a hospital for which he had donated Rs.20 lakh.China has voiced strong concern over the proposed visit saying it further reveals the Dalai cliques anti-China and separatist essence.We firmly oppose Dalai visiting the so-called Arunachal Pradesh, said Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Jiang Yu. Samdhong Rinpoche, Prime Minister of the Tibetan government-in-exile headquartered in Indian town of Dharamsala, rubbished Beijings objections to the Dalai Lamas visit.

Arunachal and its Tawang region are an integral part of India. If Dalai Lama, who is staying here for the last 50 years, is visiting any part of the country why does this bother China? he said.If he goes to Chinese territories it can raise objection, but in this case it has no business to interfere, he added. The Tibetan-government-in exile is not recognised by any country in the world.Chinas objections to Dalai Lamas visit to Arunachal comes amid reports of Chinese incursions into the Indian territory which have revived the spectre of the China threat.India cited Chinese threat as its primary reason for going nuclear in 1998. Since then, the two countries have expanded their political and economic ties and are now trying to resolve the decades-long boundary dispute with negotiations.

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