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Behind China's India policy, a growing debate

April 6 2010 at 7:19 AM

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http://beta.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/article388895.ece?homepage=true


Behind China's India policy, a growing debate



Beyond the expected statements Chinese officials will exchange with External Affairs Minister S.M. Krishna in Beijing this week, there is little consensus among different policymakers in Beijing on how to engage with a rising India.



April 5, 2010


Earlier this year, the United States' decision to approve a $ 6.4-billion arms sale to Taiwan sparked a series of agitated commentaries in China's military journals. The tone will sound somewhat familiar to an Indian audience: it reflected a growing anxiety among strategists that the U.S. was building a crescent-shaped ring to encircle and contain China. Interestingly, much of the debate focussed on what role India would or would not play in a supposed U.S.-led encirclement. Some strategists expressed concern that an eventual integration of India into an American alliance would profoundly affect China's security, as the official China Daily reported. Dai Xu, an Air Force Colonel of the People's Liberation Army (PLA), warned that China needed to be vigilant against this growing network running from Japan to India that would suffocate China.

Others, however, were not so convinced, and instead sought to calm the tensions. Pei Yuanying, former Chinese Ambassador to India, said India, as an independent international power in the international arena, was unlikely to be part of any such U.S. scheme. Shen Dingli, one of the leading voices in the strategic community in Beijing, also disagreed with Dai's views in an interview with The Hindu, suggesting that the current relationship was sound enough for China to have no reason to worry about India's ties with the U.S.

These differing views point to an ongoing debate in Beijing on a question that many policymakers are grappling with: how should China engage with a rising India? On one side of the debate are voices from the PLA, who are pressing Beijing to take a harder line with India and who see little room for cooperation between two rivals. On the other are voices in the Hu Jintao government and official think tanks, which are pushing for a more moderate and non-confrontational foreign policy line, one which they see as crucial to China's own self-interest and continued development.

The military view

The appearance of a number of articles and commentaries last year in military journals and official Communist Party-run newspapers has led some to suggest that the first group is increasingly beginning to have its voice heard. In recent months, articles in influential publications like the People's Daily, have taken a noticeably harder line on India, accusing New Delhi of arrogance and calling on China to take a stronger position on the border dispute. The People's Daily, in particular, has also begun to devote extensive coverage to India's military build-up, frequently speaking of an India threat.

The articles more or less reflected the PLA view of Sino-Indian ties, according to Srikanth Kondapalli, a professor at Jawaharlal Nehru University who studies the Chinese military. According to him and other analysts, this view is predicated on three basic policy positions on India. The first assumes that India is seeking to become a great power. The policy response is to support Pakistan, which China continues to do, and confine India's influence to South Asia. The second, he says, assumes that India has hegemonic ambitions in South Asia a phrase often used by the People's Daily last year. The policy response in China is to oppose hegemony by supporting smaller states in South Asia, like Nepal and Bangladesh. The third is on India's presence in the Indian Ocean, and the policy response is to strengthen China's naval capabilities.

The other view

Much as the PLA is influential, its view by no means reflects a consensus opinion among the highest policymakers. Besides the PLA, there are at least three groups which have a role in shaping China's India policy, including commercial lobbies, retired officials and a select group of India scholars in official think tanks. This section tends to view the relationship beyond the narrow military paradigm of the PLA. It argues that despite the persisting mistrust between the countries, it is in China's own interest, both from the point of view of sustaining its economic development and its standing as a responsible world power, to have harmonious relations with India and a peaceful periphery.

Many people in the Chinese government realise that despite historical differences, there are growing commonalities in relations between the two countries and their positions on international issues, says Ma Jiali, a leading South Asia scholar at the China Institutes of Contemporary International Relations (CICIR), who advises the government on its India policy. There is also the common goal that both countries do not want to see a unipolar world. He considers four roles India plays in shaping his policy view a close neighbour, a developing country with common goals, a rising power and an increasingly important international player. The basic fact is, he continues, we must have good relations with India, or our national interest will be damaged.

His view is echoed by Sun Shihai, another influential India hand' at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences. He says he completely disagrees with the policy views voiced by the nationalistic commentaries in much of the official media last year. Many of those reports misperceived India very deeply, says Professor Sun. Among most scholars at least, there is a growing awareness that India's power is rising, its international status is rising, and these facts are a reality that cannot be altered. He believes that it is in China's self-interest to work with India on issues in which the countries have a common stake such as climate change and combating terrorism. China has more respect [now] for India's rise, and it is in our interest to co-operate where we can, as we did so effectively last year at Copenhagen [on climate change], he says. But as two rising powers with growing international roles and strategic weight, cooperation and competition will be natural. What the governments need to do is manage the competition and avoid conflict. Most serious scholars are of this view.

Reading the debate

Do these different views matter to India? Chinese foreign policy is ultimately decided at the highest levels of the ruling Communist Party's Central Committee using these various inputs. But how these inputs get used is an extremely complicated process, says Prof. Kondapalli. Various groups put out their agenda to try and have their opinions heard, but what is eventually decided depends on who has greater influence at a given moment in time. For now though, the outcome of this debate still seems uncertain. The academic community appears to follow a soft and co-operative line while the PLA maintains its stridency to keep India on tenterhooks, says Brigadier (retd.) Arun Sahgal of the Institute of Peace and Conflict Studies, New Delhi.

Until there is greater clarity on its outcome, the mistrust between the countries will likely persist. For usually, it is only the harder PLA view of India that gets covered in the media, serving as fodder for the often over-hyped China threat' perspectives dished out by strategic analysts. Part of the reason, no doubt, is that these views are more newsworthy than balanced views from the government and other scholars. But another factor behind misperceptions is the continuing opacity in China's own government, in both policy-making and the state's control of the media.

The main problem in understanding China's policies is the lack of transparency, which often leads to misperceptions Prof. Kondapalli says. Consequently, even extreme opinions, from any media outlet, often tend to be regarded as Beijing's official line, and drown out other views even if they are no more than voices in an ongoing debate. And until China becomes more transparent, analysts say, external observers will likely continue to imagine the worst when reading the tea leaves.



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AryanArya
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Re: Behind China's India policy, a growing debate

May 20 2010, 6:41 AM 

This explains the Chinese netizens hostility towards India !


http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1974028,00.html

Interview with Jonathan Holslag, one of Europe's foremost China hand !


"In the public realm, Chinese Netizens' views of India are very negative. You get the sense the Chinese never seemed to expect India to climb up to the ranks of the great powers. Now, as India attempts to make that leap, the Chinese are very worried of its impact on China's primacy in Asia."













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May 20 2010, 6:49 AM 

Sorry but India has far too many problems to be considered as a power, more like an African republic. If the British empire never left than India could be like South Africa today, since they left India is more like the other African republics.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/257194/thread/1274165161/last-1274165161/New+India+or+New+Banana+Republic

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Re: Behind China's India policy, a growing debate

May 20 2010, 7:09 AM 


I sincerely hope that the chinese think like that because it is in Indian interest that the chinese dont consider India as a "power".India which is only growing now does not need any 'attention' on it whether it is good or bad.India is growing but the growth began just few years back so it will many years before this growth becomes "power".

And about that blog by an Indian dissenter with all its exaggerations which you posted,that is what exactly makes India what it is - for all its flaws, a free society which allows expression of opinion.




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May 20 2010, 7:25 AM 

A blog from the times of India ? The only reason why he did that was because the Indian government would have censor his news story if he post it official. Anyway this was written by an Indian in India.

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Re: Behind China's India policy, a growing debate

May 20 2010, 3:45 PM 

Chinese don't like India because of worry about India's rising? You are simply kidding. Chinese don't lie lip talks, especially boasting.

Indians has beening bragging catching up with china for several years. So what? The gap between the two countries has increased from about 3 times to 5 times in recent 4 or 5 years, let alone the absolute numbers. India only producted about 220 million tons of grains in 2009, that's the all food to feed 1.1 billion Indians and animals in India. Do you really believe Chinese worrry about acountry like this?

 
 

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May 20 2010, 8:48 PM 

\\A blog from the times of India ? The only reason why he did that was because the Indian government would have censor his news story if he post it official. Anyway this was written by an Indian in India.\\


Censoring in India ? LOL


Thats not how India works dude ! Anyone can start a blog on times and India and express their opinion . You chi9nese need to stop looking at India through chinese eyes !



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\\Chinese don't like India because of worry about India's rising? You are simply kidding\\

Err ! It's not 'me' kidding ! It is Chinese experts and non-chinese western experts on China
who are kidding !



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\\Do you really believe Chinese worrry about acountry like this? \\


As i repeatedly said, i really hope that is true because India does not need any attention on it now, good or bad. ! But ..


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/china/Ahead-of-Prez-visit-Chinese-survey-says-India-a-threat/articleshow/5936060.cms

An executive of a Chinese consultancy group on Saturday surprised all, saying most Chinese regard India as a threat and Pakistan as a more reliable partner. He was speaking at a forum on India-China relationship organized by the China Association of Friendship with Foreign Countries, which is closely related to the local government.

The statement has the potential of causing a chain of emotional reactions just ahead of the planned visit of President Pratibha Patil to China from May 26. It was the only discordant note in a series of speeches by experts from India and China, who suggested several measures to dispel mistrust and strengthen friendship between the two countries. Yuan Yue, chairman of the Beijing-based Horizon Research Consultancy, claimed at the forum that his company has been holding public surveys judging the perception of the people of India and China towards each other for the past nine years. He said India was seen as the third big threat for China after the United States and Japan.





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May 21 2010, 9:14 AM 

News doesn't get censored in India ? Please prove it as all countries all over the world would censored their news.

Please note that Indian blogger is also a journalist.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/NEWS/Sunday-TOI/Special-Report/Regulation-has-not-kept-pace-with-our-growth/articleshow/5881934.cms

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May 22 2010, 9:23 AM 

Again, China simply does not hate India. It's India who hates china becaues of the defeat of 1962 and and jealous towards China because being the only two billion-people in the world, India's economy is a fraction of China's, its standard of living is 10 years behind China's and globally it has no where near the influence China has...

As soon as you indians get rid of your hatred and jealousy towards China, there will be peace....Simple as that....

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May 23 2010, 12:31 AM 

\\News doesn't get censored in India ? Please prove it as all countries all over the world would censored their news\\



India also censors news ONLY if there are any security implications. But if anyone wants to critisize Indian policies or mock Indian political or economic situations, or want to write a dissenting article on any of the newspapers, they are free do so.There is no ban on such things.




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\\Again, China simply does not hate India. It's India who hates china becaues of the defeat of 1962 and and jealous towards China because being the only two billion-people in the world, India's economy is a fraction of China's, its standard of living is 10 years behind China's and globally it has no where near the influence China has...\\



Dude, Many ordinary Indians dont even know that India and China had border clashes in 1962. It is simply not on people's radar.Also do remember that Indians defeated the chinese in 1967 clashes.So its not about clashes or anything.As far as economy is concerned, China or no china, the Indian economy is growing and it will continue to grow.So its not about economy either. In India, china is seen as a case study from which lessons good and bad can can be learned.There are some things which the Indians are happy for china like its economic growth and there are some things which the Indians want to avoid from china like its political system.Other than that, Indians simply do not think about china that much.


But china's case is different. Ordinary Chinese like Ordinary Indians dont remember 1962 clashes.They dont even know that Indians and Chinese also fought in 1967.They are mostly indifferent to India but because of that indifference they are also ignorant of India.Hence it is very easy for them to see India through pre conceived lens. Indians also are indifferent to china but they are not ignorant of china.They know what is happening in china or about china.


Look at this survey which was conducted by a chinese research company on the chinese attitudes towards India.


http://www.ptinews.com/news/654263_Indians-view-China-as-friend--but-Chinese-don-t--survey

Indians view China as friend, but Chinese don't: survey


Beijing, May 15 (PTI) Majority of Indians regard China as a friend and partner in sharp contrast to feeling among Chinese who consider Pakistan a better partner and place India next only to the US and Japan in the list of nations that threatened their country the most, according to a new survey.




http://china.globaltimes.cn/diplomacy/2010-05/532225.html


"According to Yuan Yue, CEO of the research company, 45 percent of Chinese participants had a "good attitude" toward India - 9 percent higher than in 2009. But only 2.2 percent picked India as the friendliest country in the world.

"Very few Chinese know that India is a rising power. They don't perceive India as a rising economy,'' Yuan told the Hindustan Times, adding that Chinese participants ranked India as the third-most-threatening nation, behind the US and Japan."







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May 23 2010, 2:47 AM 

"India also censors news ONLY if there are any security implications. But if anyone wants to critisize Indian policies or mock Indian political or economic situations, or want to write a dissenting article on any of the newspapers, they are free do so.There is no ban on such things."

Show me one example of this.

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May 23 2010, 3:33 AM 

Dude, as i said before stop looking at India through chinese lens.You are being seriously naive if you think that in India , news are censored because they dont potray the "right picture" of India ! The article which you posted itself is an example of that. But here is another one.


http://www.indiatogether.org/2006/apr/psa-depress.htm

India Shining meets the Great Depression



Actually, I am not the first person to observe this chinese suprise about Indian dissenters. Recently an Indian scholar visited china and he also observed the same thing.In India people sometimes exaggerate things.While some people exaggerate Indian flaws, some people exaggerate Indian acheivements. But people know what to beleive and what not to beleive.It is these arguments and exchange of opinions that makes India a free soceity.


http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China/LE18Ad01.html


"Many Chinese university students I interacted with were surprised that I could be so critical of some Indian government policies. One of them exclaimed in shock when I said that 30% or so of Indians lived in absolute poverty. She thought I was being unnatural and traitorous by conceding flaws of my country."







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May 23 2010, 7:07 AM 

lol, our india policy or the world's india policy is not to take smelly indians seriously because they are insignificant.

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May 23 2010, 11:26 AM 

Your news was posted in 2006 in time for the Indian assembly election. That would mean that this news is a part of a smear campaign by the opposition party against the current government at that time. Post a recent one.

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May 23 2010, 10:19 PM 

All the "my daddy can beat up your daddy" arguments aside...that was a very interesting and informative article (shame we do not get as many of those as I would like to see here on WAFF...nudge, nudge, wink, wink).

I do hope that the Chinese Communist Party is smart enough to see the dangers of the militaristic/conservative viewpoint (for a good example, just look at the damage the the George W. administration did to the US) and understand the prime motivation of the PLA and their viewpoint ("We want shiny new toys.").



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May 23 2010, 10:50 PM 


\\Your news was posted in 2006 in time for the Indian assembly election. That would mean that this news is a part of a smear campaign by the opposition party against the current government at that time. Post a recent one.\\



Can you provide a proff that it was part of a smear campaign by the opposition party against the current govt ?

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May 24 2010, 1:32 AM 

Your news story is from 02 Apr 2006 from the Indian news paper The Hindu and during that year.

State Assembly elections in India, 2006

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Assembly_elections_in_India,_2006

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May 24 2010, 3:03 AM 

\\Your news story is from 02 Apr 2006 from the Indian news paper The Hindu and during that year\\


LOL ! Many things happen during that period.Do you mean to say that all those things are done by opposition parties to smear the govt.

The author of that article P.sainath is a Ramon Magsaysay award winner for journalism. To say casually without any proff that he is working for the opposition parties is hight of ignorance.

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May 24 2010, 5:00 AM 

Sorry but he is lucky because he got an overseas award.

http://beta.thehindu.com/opinion/editorial/article41149.ece

And where is your recent news that criticizes the government as corrupted and inefficient if you are so confident it will get publish in the Indian news.



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May 24 2010, 11:07 PM 

\\Sorry but he is lucky because he got an overseas award.And where is your recent news that criticizes the government as corrupted and inefficient if you are so confident it will get publish in the Indian news.\\


So basically you are not able to prove that he is working for the opposition ! LOL

I could provide one more example of that but i wont because with the kind of frivilous reasons you are coming up with, there is no point in spoon feeding you again and again.


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May 26 2010, 3:51 AM 

And how can you prove he is not working for them?

Also you didn't answer my question.

"India also censors news ONLY if there are any security implications. But if anyone wants to critisize Indian policies or mock Indian political or economic situations, or want to write a dissenting article on any of the newspapers, they are free do so.There is no ban on such things."

And you said there should be no censorship of any kind about the kind of news from that blog I posted and now you are running away like a coward, what a loser [linked image].



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May 26 2010, 4:11 AM 

\\And how can you prove he is not working for them? \\


What kind of argument is that ? You made an allegation that the journalist is working for opposition parties.Should you not provide a solid proff to back up that allegation.Instead you are asking me to prove that he is not working for the oppostion ? It's like i say you are a jackass and when you ask me to prove it, i ask a reverse question asking you to prove that you are not a jackass ! LOL



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\\And you said there should be no censorship of any kind about the kind of news from that blog I posted and now you are running away like a coward, what a loser \\


I already provided a link supporting my contention.You simply ignored it and made a baseless allegation that the journalist is working for opposition parties as if you know it.You did not even provide any evidence to support your contention. Now you are asking me provide another link. LOL







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May 26 2010, 4:26 AM 

"What kind of argument is that ? You made an allegation that the journalist is working for opposition parties.Should you not provide a solid proff to back up that allegation.Instead you are asking me to prove that he is not working for the oppostion ? It's like i say you are a jackass and when you ask me to prove it, i ask a reverse question asking you to prove that you are not a jackass ! LOL "

The simple reason is that we don't know if he is working for the opposition party or not. You claim he is not while I claim he is, but the fact is we cannot prove it. Other then the fact this news was posted in April 2006 in time for the Assembly election from late march to May 2006.

"I already provided a link supporting my contention.You simply ignored it and made a baseless allegation that the journalist is working for opposition parties as if you know it.You did not even provide any evidence to support your contention. Now you are asking me provide another link. LOL"

As I said posting a old news article from 2006 does not prove that India is not censoring about the kind of news from that blog I posted. Maybe the government simply decided to allow it for the Assembly election, then went back censoring when it is over.

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May 26 2010, 6:59 AM 

\\The simple reason is that we don't know if he is working for the opposition party or not. You claim he is not while I claim he is, but the fact is we cannot prove it. Other then the fact this news was posted in April 2006 in time for the Assembly election from late march to May 2006. \\


If you dont know anything, then how can you make an allegation against a person who won a award for being a best journalist just like that ? If you cant prove anything, then there is no point in questioning the article in the first place.




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\\As I said posting a old news article from 2006 does not prove that India is not censoring about the kind of news from that blog I posted. Maybe the government simply decided to allow it for the Assembly election, then went back censoring when it is over.\\


2006 is not far from 2010. "May be" does not equal that it happened.Lot of things were published in newspapers in 2006 which have nothing to do with elections. To suggest that all the things which were posted in that period are done because of elections is plain rubbish.








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May 31 2010, 1:58 AM 

"If you dont know anything, then how can you make an allegation against a person who won a award for being a best journalist just like that ? If you cant prove anything, then there is no point in questioning the article in the first place. "

And how can you prove he is not bias against a political party and even if he is not how can you be sure his editor is not bias or the newspaper he wrote for. They could just tell him to write this stuff and he would do it.

"2006 is not far from 2010. "May be" does not equal that it happened.Lot of things were published in newspapers in 2006 which have nothing to do with elections. To suggest that all the things which were posted in that period are done because of elections is plain rubbish."

This is your logic? The fact it was publish during the election has nothing to do with its publishing at all? If that is the case why not publish it before or after the election and not on it ? It looks like you could not find any recent articles at all.

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June 2 2010, 3:40 AM 

\\And how can you prove he is not bias against a political party and even if he is not how can you be sure his editor is not bias or the newspaper he wrote for. They could just tell him to write this stuff and he would do it. \\


Dude, YOU made an allegation on him, not me. If you agree that you cant prove your allegation, that is all the fuss about ?


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Again dude, In 2006, there are hundreds of articles and news reports are published in Indian media. So are you suggesting that everyone of them are paid by opposition parties.

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June 2 2010, 5:25 AM 

"Dude, YOU made an allegation on him, not me. If you agree that you cant prove your allegation, that is all the fuss about ? "

And you cannot prove his story has no political agenda to it.

"Again dude, In 2006, there are hundreds of articles and news reports are published in Indian media. So are you suggesting that everyone of them are paid by opposition parties."

Not all of them, most of them since it was election time.

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June 3 2010, 5:04 AM 

\\And you cannot prove his story has no political agenda to it.\\


So YOU made a allegation without proff that the journalist has a political agenda.Since you could not prove it, now you asking ME to prove that he is innocent ! LOL



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\\Not all of them, most of them since it was election time.\\


Can you prove that this article is in your "most of them" frame ?


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June 3 2010, 7:20 AM 

"So YOU made a allegation without proff that the journalist has a political agenda.Since you could not prove it, now you asking ME to prove that he is innocent ! LOL"

As I said if you cannot prove it as well then this is a moot point.

"Can you prove that this article is in your "most of them" frame ? "

Then can you prove it is not, since it is well know that political parties would spend million of dollars for campaigning and the media to give them the edge in the election in all free democratic countries.

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AryanArya
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Satyameva Jayate (India)

Re: Behind China's India policy, a growing debate

July 3 2010, 7:24 PM 

\\As I said if you cannot prove it as well then this is a moot point.\\


YOU made an allegation.Not me. The onus is on YOU to prove your point.Not me.



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\\Then can you prove it is not, since it is well know that political parties would spend million of dollars for campaigning and the media to give them the edge in the election in all free democratic countries. \\


If it is well known, then you should be able to provide evidence. Where is your evidence ?


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- Rigveda


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Anonymous
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Middle Kingdom (China)

Re: Behind China's India policy, a growing debate

July 9 2010, 2:02 AM 

Not interested in debating a last month topic, moving on.....

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