China's high-speed train broke a world operation speed record on Friday during its trial service, the Ministry of Railways said.
The train CRH380A hit a maximum speed of 486.1 kilometers per hour on its run between the north China's Zaozhuang city and Bengbu in the south, which is a segment of the Beijing-Shanghai high-speed rail line.
For clarification: This is the speed of commercial train on commercial railroad.
Updated: Beijing-Shanghai train trial run at record-breaking 520 km per hour
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Re: 486.1km/h: Chinese Train Refreshes Speed Record
December 4 2010, 4:43 AM
The speed record for the TGV is currently 574.8 km/h (357.2 mph), set in April 2007, sorry, but the Chinese high speed train broke no records, unless you're talking about in china only.
The French still hold the world speed record.
Re: 486.1km/h: Chinese Train Refreshes Speed Record
December 4 2010, 5:10 AM
Again someone who don't know the difference between these two.
486.1km/h (last I heard just got updated to 489 km/h but unconfirmed) set by CRH-380AL is the fastest by a NON-modified train set running on commercial tracks. You can see from the photos that it is the standard commercial use CRH-380A with no special aerodynamic modifications (such as air dams, fairing between carriages, modified windscreen etc) or additional power trailers added, which is a 16 car set with M-14*T-M setup.
TGV V-150 was a special set with M-MT-MT-MT-M setup, basically 2 locomotives and 3 powered trailers, with 12/16 powered axles. The train is also slimmed with multiple special aerodynamic mods fitted.
The records by CRH-380AL and TGV V150 are under different categories and are not comparable to one another.
Another thing to note is with the CRH-380A/AL records, China now holds the speed records for non-modified train sets in commercial service for both wheeled and maglev trains.
The speed record for modified/special sets however are still the 574.8km/h for wheeled by TGV V150 and 581km/h by JR MLX-01 for maglev sets.
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Re: 486.1km/h: Chinese Train Refreshes Speed Record
December 4 2010, 5:20 AM
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December 4 2010, 5:52 AM
Lol Joon, nice to see that the chest-thumper is still around.
Just a slight correction though, for most people, work is kinda a lot more important than wasting time flaming. But hey, feel free to think that life surrounds WAFF.
EDIT: Remove reverse flame, in too good a mood to ruin it.
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Re: 486.1km/h: Chinese Train Refreshes Speed Record
December 5 2010, 8:34 PM
well the tgv destroyed the whole electricity line while breaking that record
Source ?
it did also run with twice the usual voltage
And not that wold record in China ? The, they are wsating quite some energy.
TGV 4402 (operation V150) reaching 574 km/h on 3 April 2007 near Le Chemin, France.Operation V150, where 150 again refers to a target speed in metres per second, was a series of high speed trials carried out on the LGV Est prior to its June 2007 opening. The trials were conducted jointly by SNCF, TGV builder Alstom, and LGV Est owner Réseau Ferré de France between 15 January 2007 and 15 April 2007. Following a series of increasingly high speed runs, the official speed record attempt took place on 3 April 2007.[1][2] The top speed of 574.8 km/h (159.6 m/s, 357.2 mph) was reached at kilometer point 191 near the village of Le Chemin, between the Meuse and Champagne-Ardenne TGV stations, where the most favorable profile exists.
The 515.3 km/h speed record of 1990 was unofficially broken multiple times during the test campaign that preceded and followed the certified record attempt, the first time on 13 February 2007 with a speed of 554.3 km/h, and the last time on 15 April 2007 with a speed of 542.9 km/h.
[edit] Track preparation
The record runs took place on a 140 km section of track 1 on the LGV Est, usually heading west, between kilometer posts 264 (town of Prény) and 120 (near the Champagne-Ardenne TGV station). This section of the LGV was chosen for its vertical profile and gentle curves, with favorable downhill segments leading to the highest speeds between kilometer posts 195 and 191, near the border between the Meuse and Marne departments. The track superelevation was increased to support higher speeds. Catenary voltage was increased to 31 kV from the standard 25 kV. The mechanical tension in the wire was increased to 40 kN from the standard 25 kN. The speed of the transverse wave induced in the overhead wire by the train's pantograph was thus increased to 610 km/h, providing a margin of safety beyond the train's maximum speed. Several measurement stations were installed along the test tracks to monitor stresses in the track and ballast, noise, aerodynamic effects, and catenary dynamics. Between kilometer posts 223 and 167, where speeds exceeded 500 km/h, the track was under close surveillance.
[edit] Preparation of the train for Operation TGV 150
Part of TGV trainset 4402 displayed near the Eiffel Tower after the record Wikimedia Commons has media related to: TGV trainset 4402
The train used for the speed record was code named V150, and comprised three modified Duplex cars, fitted with two powered bogies similar to the AGV prototype, marshalled between a pair of TGV power cars from POS trainset 4402. The train had four more powered axles than trainset 325 used in the 1990 speed record, and had a maximum power output of 19.6 MW (26,800 hp) instead of the 9.3 MW on a standard TGV POS. This unusual composition was used to obtain high speed test data on disparate technical elements including the new asynchronous traction motors on the POS power cars, the lightweight synchronous permanent magnet traction motors on the AGV bogies, the actively controlled pantograph, and the Duplex bi-level configuration which had never been used in very high speed trials.
Aerodynamic improvements, similar to the 1990 record train, were refined in a wind tunnel and provided a 15% reduction in drag from the standard configuration. These improvements included a front air dam, roof fairings over the pantograph openings, membranes to cover the space between the cars, and a flush-mounted windshield. Over 600 sensors were fitted on various parts of both the engines and the cars. The train set ran with larger wheels with a diameter of 1092 mm instead of 920 mm, to limit the rotational speed of the powertrain.[3] [4]
Re: 486.1km/h: Chinese Train Refreshes Speed Record
December 12 2010, 11:10 PM
The latest test run reached 520km/hour, bingo!
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Re: 486.1km/h: Chinese Train Refreshes Speed Record
December 12 2010, 11:31 PM
What about the rate of indigenous technology of high speed trains of China? I guess it should have passed 70% by now.
Turkey just signed a cooperation agreement with China regarding high-speed railways; which Turkey want to build a 6000 km high-speed railroad until 2020. It is interesting as Hyundai Rotem already built a high speed train factory in Turkey; I would have expected an agreement with the Koreans.
Re: 486.1km/h: Chinese Train Refreshes Speed Record
December 13 2010, 3:21 AM
These b1tch as$ whores stole tech from almost every major high speed rail firm in the world from Kawasaki Heavy Industries Ltd., to Siemens AG, to Alstom SA and Bombardier Inc.
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Yeah people who lift their arse to a child raping mass murdering thug who pretends he brought the moon down to earth and split it, they are not idiots. They are the disciples of the 'one true faith'. I'm not going to tell you to quit it. The worst thing I can say to anyone is, 'Go and be a Muslim'. So do carry on.
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Re: 486.1km/h: Chinese Train Refreshes Speed Record
December 13 2010, 11:12 AM
I always find it ironic and extremely hilarious when foreign companies accuse Chinese companies of copying when they themselves can't and haven't created anything with the same capability....
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December 13 2010, 6:41 PM
Hey stupid Ching-pong moron, these are the companies that your lying nation stole tech from since they were stupid enough to do business in stealing China land for the imaginary chance to participate in the lucrative Chinese market(that would favor stealing tech to build up state backed companies anyway): Kawasaki Heavy Industries Ltd., to Siemens AG, to Alstom SA and Bombardier Inc.
Does Kawasaki have access to Siemens, Alstom and Bombardier tech?
Does Siemens have Kawasaki's, Alstom's and Bombardier's patents?
It is thus not hard to figure why China has became so advanced with only a few years experience of building high-speed trains and rail.
This is why the cheating Chinese were able to go from years of huckstering for train tech to suddenly being the fastest. It is a repulsive situation that will only repeat as greedy next quarter growth multinational companies will not change, so powerful Western governments need to wake up and start making total spectrum warfare against China, because the Chi-coms have already started doing the same.
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Yeah people who lift their arse to a child raping mass murdering thug who pretends he brought the moon down to earth and split it, they are not idiots. They are the disciples of the 'one true faith'. I'm not going to tell you to quit it. The worst thing I can say to anyone is, 'Go and be a Muslim'. So do carry on.
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Re: 486.1km/h: Chinese Train Refreshes Speed Record
December 13 2010, 7:42 PM
^^Everyone knows that China sent to learn about high tech trains from Germany, Japan and etc....every Chinese documentary and CEO or China's biggest rail company is the first thing they always say....but China now is definite one of the world leaders....the trains China completely makes on its own are the fastest in the world and travel on the most advanced rail system in the world.....how can you claim China steels and copies when nobody in the world has created anything close to what they've done
Re: 486.1km/h: Chinese Train Refreshes Speed Record
December 13 2010, 8:34 PM
Everyone knows that China is a cheater country that doesn't play by the rules, except the deluded Mercury polluted Chinese who have brain damage.
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vladtepesblogdotcom (to a muslim critic on a Youtube comment):
Yeah people who lift their arse to a child raping mass murdering thug who pretends he brought the moon down to earth and split it, they are not idiots. They are the disciples of the 'one true faith'. I'm not going to tell you to quit it. The worst thing I can say to anyone is, 'Go and be a Muslim'. So do carry on.
Re: 486.1km/h: Chinese Train Refreshes Speed Record
December 13 2010, 9:12 PM
According to what Nikephoros said Kawasaki Heavy Industries Ltd, Siemens AG, Alstom SA and Bombardier Inc are all stupid. Chinese are smart in business. and Nikephoros is more stupid and shameful.
Actually those company did good business in China. Even today, they still get contracts for their trains. Before the large scale of high-speed railway construction in China, the matket for high-speed railway is very small and limited. Japan started their operation in 1964, but there are only less than 2000 km of high-speed railways. Europe has a bigger market than Japan, but are divided, market is every contry were still small. Europe has about 7000 km of railways until today and the market is devided by several makers.
This situation told the companies that Chinese market was the ONLY big one and China was serious.
China was not only counting on Japanese and European technologies. Chinese trains reached 321km/hour speed (China Star)in 2002 way before the construction of high speed railways in China. If Japanese and European companies did not sell their technologies, China would perfect our own trains. Japanese and European companies would gain nothing.
After China gained technology, it is unnecessary for China to continue the China Star trains whose operational speed was 250 km/hour. But China started another one, CRH380A, the train of the highest conventional operational trains in the world.
When high-speed railway is getting big (more than 7000 km in operation and about 3000 km new lines each year now) and a huge success, other countries want to simulate the samething now. Before the new situation, the Japanes and European companies fell regreted. But Chinese trains are better!!!
Re: 486.1km/h: Chinese Train Refreshes Speed Record
December 13 2010, 10:47 PM
Fvck your China-great sources. So many Western sources say exactly what I say. Everyone is sick of you crappy chest beating Chinese. At the end of the day you are bragging that your barely captured more than 5% of world GDP, while taking advantage of your rural people in inhumane working conditions, slaving to make trinkets for Whitey that will end up in the garbage after a few months. The reason why your copy-paste trains are the fastest in operation is because you don't give sh1t for the lives of the subjects of brutal, corrupt, cheating CCP regime, since there are so many to sacrifice. Other countries have much stricter safety standards that limit speed in favor of more safety.
Foreign high-speed train producers who taught China how to make bullet trains disagree. Most executives at those companies shy away from commenting on Chinas high-speed technology out of fear of offending the countrys government, but a few who are willing to talk say that while China has succeeded in making the bullet trains go faster, the fundamental technology behind those trains remains more or less identical to the technology foreign companies provided originally half a decade ago.
What China has is the same trains with beefed-up propulsion and other tweaked systems to achieve faster speeds, an official from one foreign high-speed rail company says. Fundamentally China has made little to no big technological advancements.
It also makes little sense to go at speeds above 400 kilometers an hour if you consider the physics of high-speed trains, the same executive argues. At those speeds, he says, there is so much wheel slippage, and the energy requirements are so high, that it makes no operational sense.
Above 400km, he adds, the wheels and brake systems absorb so much strain that they need to be inspected more frequently for hairline cracks and other damage, which makes cost of operation punishing high.
Given all this, it should come as no surprise that the Ministry of Railways is expected to limit the Beijing-Shanghai trains to 380 kilometers an hour once the line is complete.
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Yeah people who lift their arse to a child raping mass murdering thug who pretends he brought the moon down to earth and split it, they are not idiots. They are the disciples of the 'one true faith'. I'm not going to tell you to quit it. The worst thing I can say to anyone is, 'Go and be a Muslim'. So do carry on.
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Re: 486.1km/h: Chinese Train Refreshes Speed Record
December 13 2010, 11:21 PM
stupid loser is always loser.
China has commercial trains that can run at 520km/hour in test. Can anyothers' unmodified commerical trains do it?
If beefing-up power and some small adjustment can make trains run that fast, why no one else still cannot do it when China's trains are on operations. HAHAHA.
"Everyone knows that China is a cheater country that doesn't play by the rules, except the deluded Mercury polluted Chinese who have brain damage. "
Don't be delusional, no country play by the rules. And if you want to talk about a cheater country well western countries or European countries will beat anyone to it. For the record the Chinese didn't steal these technology it was bought, and they are all transferred LEGALLY. Blame all you want the fact is China's highspeed railways is now the world's most advance not even the companies that transferred the tech can achieve what China did, also if it was stolen tech do you think the US would send a huge delegation to China to study the system and actually interested in buying the Chinese trains? You folks have simply become to arrogant and too complacent and when finally someone beat you guys to the game you guys cry like baby. China is just a developing country and shes already achieved so much. This is just the beginning you folks better get use the idea that yellow skinned people will achieve far greater stuff in the future. The west is the past, the East is the future.
"These b1tch as$ whores stole tech from almost every major high speed rail firm in the world from Kawasaki Heavy Industries Ltd., to Siemens AG, to Alstom SA and Bombardier Inc."
When China was weak, the Japs and West went wild there. For fvcks sake the Chinese were forced to buy opium.
How many things did the West "steal" from China? Quite a bit.
The US owes a lot of its current military tech to Germans files and scientists it took during and after WW2.
The USA did not steal tech from Germany. It defeated Germany in a global war and nationalized many of the German scientists so they could live and work in the USA, and took alot of their archives and programs over. To the victor go the spoils.
There is a big difference between the two, Greek-Canadian loser, svcking minuscule Chinese c0ck. Last I checked, sickly China is not in a state of war, and if it was, it would be another epic Opium war like humiliation.
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vladtepesblogdotcom (to a muslim critic on a Youtube comment):
Yeah people who lift their arse to a child raping mass murdering thug who pretends he brought the moon down to earth and split it, they are not idiots. They are the disciples of the 'one true faith'. I'm not going to tell you to quit it. The worst thing I can say to anyone is, 'Go and be a Muslim'. So do carry on.
"The USA did not steal tech from Germany. It defeated Germany in a global war and nationalized many of the German scientists so they could live and work in the USA, and took alot of their archives and programs over. To the victor go the spoils.
There is a big difference between the two, Greek-Canadian loser, svcking minuscule Chinese c0ck. Last I checked, sickly China is not in a state of war, and if it was, it would be another epic Opium war like humiliation."
Go fvck yourself, your mother, father and all your jew family so piece of *****.
Right now the world is going through economic war......and the Chinese are winning. I'm 100% Greek faggot, and you're 100% jew but too pussy to admit it.
And don't talk about war you pussy. You haven't even served in any army, so you'd be the last "man" to fight the Chinese on Chinese soil.
Like I said, China is retaking it's rightful and proper position in the world. Neo con americans need to deal with it.
You Chinese fags and your loser ally, the son of immigrants to Canada in the early 1900's that pretends to be a great Greek patriot are as dumb as can be.
Germany started a global conflict and America was one of the largest parties in defeating it. Alot of German scientists were given leniency and the ability to continue their careers if they migrated and continued their work in the USA. Also we seized many archives. This is nothing like sleaze-ball current stealing of IP by the losers of the Falling Sun.
Arrogant China will eventually get notched down the totem pole and I will be here to laugh in your faces that you polluted your country severely with not much to even show in compensation.
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vladtepesblogdotcom (to a muslim critic on a Youtube comment):
Yeah people who lift their arse to a child raping mass murdering thug who pretends he brought the moon down to earth and split it, they are not idiots. They are the disciples of the 'one true faith'. I'm not going to tell you to quit it. The worst thing I can say to anyone is, 'Go and be a Muslim'. So do carry on.
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I was born in the most powerful country the world has ever seen in history. The sore losers sound to me like the as3hurt Chinese, the most womanish of forumers, the proud vag1na-tickler nation of the CCP. No freedom of speech, rabid censorship, a joke for environmental regulations and concern, IP thieving, yet you say you will suffer much more just to brag and make propaganda over your sh1t "glorious motherland"!
You guys are beyond deluded, it seems you lot need a new opium war or else you will continue having a false conception of your place in this world.
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vladtepesblogdotcom (to a muslim critic on a Youtube comment):
Yeah people who lift their arse to a child raping mass murdering thug who pretends he brought the moon down to earth and split it, they are not idiots. They are the disciples of the 'one true faith'. I'm not going to tell you to quit it. The worst thing I can say to anyone is, 'Go and be a Muslim'. So do carry on.
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^^^More distractions.....you still haven't proved your point HOW DID CHINA STEAL TECH THAT WAS NEVER INVENTED OR PRODUCED BEFORE.....now you going about your own country and how strong it is...NO ONE CARES
How am I gonna prove a point to a nation who are the exceedingly proud rape victims of the CCP?
Do a web search yourself and see what international media has to say. Everyone always knows that the clever Han rape victims decry anyway whatever non-CCP sanctioned world media says like the butt monkeys they are. You are sorry as$ victims that only trust your own rapist, I can do nothing for you.
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vladtepesblogdotcom (to a muslim critic on a Youtube comment):
Yeah people who lift their arse to a child raping mass murdering thug who pretends he brought the moon down to earth and split it, they are not idiots. They are the disciples of the 'one true faith'. I'm not going to tell you to quit it. The worst thing I can say to anyone is, 'Go and be a Muslim'. So do carry on.
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^^So you now give up your initial argument that China copied technologies that never existed.....YOU LOST...now you're going on some convoluted rape and Han race argument that no one can follow.....truly sad and pathetic
Listen, I gave some sources, I could scour the web and present alot more. But I am not gonna act like a trained monkey playing tricks for Chinese forumers. The dynamics that are in operation are the opposite; the Chinese are exactly like organ grinder monkeys and the CCP is their master that takes most their cash and gives them a peanut to live on. Then they brag about "glorious motherland", lol!
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vladtepesblogdotcom (to a muslim critic on a Youtube comment):
Yeah people who lift their arse to a child raping mass murdering thug who pretends he brought the moon down to earth and split it, they are not idiots. They are the disciples of the 'one true faith'. I'm not going to tell you to quit it. The worst thing I can say to anyone is, 'Go and be a Muslim'. So do carry on.
^^The only "source" you provided was someones blog who claims that China stole the technology....but the fact is if it was so easy to achieve why hasn't any country come close to having a standard HSR operating at that speed....that's why no one is on your side during this argument....and going on some random and convoluted insults just makes it worse.
Will corruption derail China's $1T USD train gambit?
It sounded like a perfect plan -- high-speed trains that would carry passengers at speeds almost equivalent of commercial airplanes. But now, thanks to government corruption and quality issues, the project may never arrive at the station.
In February Liu Zhijun, the man in charge of China's $1T USD high-speed rail bid, was fired. Under investigation on corruption charges, the 58-year-old's departure signaled the start of some major questions about the future of the project, which seeks to lay down as much track, in length, as a third of America's interstate highway system.
This month, amid rumors of trains almost literally derailing, China's Railways Ministry announced that it would be dropping the top speed of trains from 218 mph to 186 mph. It would not comment on safety concerns other than to say the issues were "severe". The slowdown drops China from having the world's fastest trains to being in a virtual tie with Europe and Japan.
It also announced plans to slow construction and drop ticket prices in order to try to close a budget deficit. The Railways Ministry owes $276B USD to Chinese banks and failed to turn a profit in the first three months of the year -- at a time when it was expected to be turning the corner.
Patrick Chovanec, a professor at Tsinghua University in China states in an interview with The Washington Post, "Theyve taken on a massive amount of debt to build it."
Zhao Jian, a professor at Beijing Jiaotong University, says the project could lead to bank failures. He states, "In China, we will have a debt crisis a high-speed rail debt crisis. I think it is more serious than your subprime mortgage crisis. You can always leave a house or use it. The rail system is there. Its a burden. You must operate the rail system, and when you operate it, the cost is very high."
Some of the funds for the project have been going towards their intended purchase -- laying rail. Others have been going towards questionable expenditures like elegant glass and marble for the country's 295 train stations. And there are rumors of local officials, including a woman in Shanxi province, setting up companies to take kickbacks from contractors.
Officials on the Beijing-Shanghai line project are accused of accepting $28.5M USD in bribes. On top of that, the former Railways Ministry chief, Mr. Zhijun, stands accused of pocketing $122M USD.
"Engineers" working on the vital Beijing-to-Shanghai line actually had no credentials or formal education. And in March government officials also found scores of fake invoices, which resulted in the government paying for phantom work.
Much like the Chinese manufacturing industry's struggles, there are fears that contractors are also cutting corners with substandard materials.
In order to ensure safety, train tracks must be built with high quality fly ash, mixed with concrete. But contractors are suspected of using lower quality ash mixed with other substances, potentially compromising miles of track.
Despite having the world's second largest economy, China's average yearly per capita income of $4,300 USD is well below the world average, according to the International Monetary Fund. One of the biggest problems facing the train system is that the people of China are simply unable to pay the prices of tickets, which remain exorbitant by the nation's standards.
The government shut down older, cheaper slow train lines in a bid to get migrant workers to use the new lines. But the tickets were too expensive and the bid failed -- the workers turned to the bus system, clogging highways.
China will have another crack at it, next February when the migrant workers once again return home in a brief exodus. But it remains to be seen if the government has dropped prices enough to sell tickets -- and if it will be able to ensure the passengers safely reach their destination.
The Asian giant's struggles are of great interest to the U.S., which is contemplating a much smaller government-backed high-speed rail effort.
the high speed train is going through some replanning....doesn't mean it's stopped...just replanning and potentially slowing down the buildout and the speed of the trains....nothing changes in the grand scheme of things...
Reducing train speed does not mean there are safety or quality problem. That's a business decision.
China is trying to reduce the operation cost and hence the lower ticket price so that more people can take the high-speed trains instead of conventional trains. More capacity on the conventional railways will be released to cargo shipping.
Another reason is that the high-speed train is seriously hurting civil aviation. Operations of many flight lines were stopped in recent months due to the high-speed railways. Civil aviation business needs more transition time.
But China still will finish 12000 km of high-speed railway network as planned.
Nice for China ... but it's a german train. Built in china with the german blueprints. Way to go ... but I read somewhere that at those speeds you need an average power plant only to feed the train with power, the size you need to feed a mid-seze city.
Excellent it means that the lower ticket prices have manage to draw in ridership. They still need to find where is the tracks made of low quality material is since it means they cannot increase the speed above 300km/h.
According to yesterday's Xinhua news, China will invest 2.8 trillion rmb during 2011-2015 (11th 5-ear plan), in which 745.5 billion this year. These are almost the same as the sacked minister's plan. 30,000 km of new lines will be put into operation during 2011-2015.
At the end of 12th 5-year plan (or 2020), a 40,000km express railway network will be competed.
The high-speed railway bebtween Beijing and Shanghai will be put into commercial trial between 06-06 and 06-19. 24 trains will run in each direction.
China started to construct the 1318km of the railway in April 2008 and finished construction at the end of 2010. It was a miracle for China to build such a line in about 2 and half years. The line has been under test for about half year since then.
The record of the speed by a commercial train on commercial line was made in a part of this line.
4,715 Km of new high-speed lines will be put into operation in 2011 alone with investment of 639.3 billion RMB in the year.
3,038 KM of new high speed lines will be put into operation in 2012 with investment of 330.3 billion RMB in the year.
2,667 KM of new lines will be finished in 2013 with investment of 365.0 billion RMB in the year.
4,421 KM of new lines will be completed in 2014 with investment of 542.9 billion RMB in the year.
3,847 KM of new high-speed lines will go commercial in 2015 with investment of 343.4 billion RMB in the year.
That means in the 5-year plan between 2011-2015, China will invest 2,221 billion RMB in high-speed railways and about 18,688 km of new lines will be complete to expand China's high-speed network into 27,046 km.
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