WAFF Vet Club[Click here to Join WAFF!] WAFF Moderators Forum
General Discussion
(The Den)
The World's Armed Forces Forum History, Politics, Economics, And Religion Forum
Greece & Turkey Defence Forum Europe, Middle East & Africa
Defence Forum
Asia & Pacific Defence Forum
Help, Suggestions & Complaints
   
   
  << Previous Topic | Next Topic >>Forum Index  

Europeans:- Immigration

June 26 2012 at 8:50 PM

  (Login may18a)
Elite WAFF Vet Club

Just curious- europeans how important a topic is immigration to you, and what are your views on it?

Theres a somewhat fierce debate on it on another forum i use and current sentiment is that
it is not an issue for most either way...but im not sure

______
Some one had blundered:
Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do and die:
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.
Cannon to right of them,
Cannon to left of them
Cannon in front of them
Volleyed and thundered;
Stormed at with shot and shell,
Boldly they rode and well,
Into the jaws of Death,
Into the mouth of Hell
Rode the six hundred.
Flashed all their sabres bare,
Flashed as they turned in air
Sabring the gunners there,
Charging an army, while
All the world wondered:
Plunged in the battery-smoke
Right through the line they broke;
Cossack and Russian
Reeled from the sabre-stroke
Shattered and sundered.
Then they rode back, but not
Not the six hundred.
Cannon to right of them,
Cannon to left of them,
Cannon behind them
Volleyed and thundered;
Stormed at with shot and shell,
While horse and hero fell,
They that had fought so well
Came through the jaws of Death,
Back from the mouth of Hell,
All that was left of them,
Left of six hundred.
When can their glory fade?
O the wild charge they made!
All the world wondered.
Honour the charge they made!
Honour the Light Brigade,
Noble six hundred!

 
 Respond to this message   
AuthorReply

(Login Rzecz)
ANZACs (Australia/New Zealand)

Re: Europeans:- Immigration

June 27 2012, 1:24 AM 

Every European I have talked in person on my travels and the topic comes up is sick to death of what is happening to the country as a result of immigration. My best friends sister lives in Munich with her husband and they themselves are immigrants. However, they are they are well respected unlike the Turks, who generally are seen as good for one thing, kebab shops.

I suppose the way it goes are those that are culturally, religiously and racially distinct get the most flack. The less difference between the native and the immigrant, the better. And that is also attributed to how well they integrate or assimilate, which works the same as here in Australia. Though here integrating is usually enough, assimilating is more a European need.

Having said that, I have heard pretty nasty stories from Poles who have been or are living in England. The Germans still stereotype the Poles as thieves and lazy, actually most Central, Eastern and Balkan Europeans are treated as lesser then their Western counter parts. Just seems English don't like anyone different, especially if they are harder workers wink.gif

[linked image]

 
 
Taygibay
(Login 1RCHMDL84)
Moderators

Re: Europeans:- Immigration

June 27 2012, 1:31 PM 

Ouch, May18a!

Immigration is part of human nature since we are a wandering species.
Since the beginning of ages, we have spread over our planet.
When the concept of dedicated land of the tribe was born so was immigration.
A stranger wanting to stay was possibly seen as wanting to make use of "our space".

Over time, depending on the looseness of a nation's contours, borders and armed forces,
enforcement was added and thus created the legal standpoint from which to differenciate
between good and bad immigrant and allowing them to be numbered, counted.

Older nations such as European ones often are have been doing so a while already which
also reveals "historic" immigration processes such as an influx from colonies in general
with spikes in times of unrest such as following independance of a colony.

Lastly, some nations are traditional asylums, terres d'accueil, such as France and the USA,
in historical order amongst Western Civilization.


These are the concepts that delineate the immigration's perimeter.
The live variables are those of present, in-the-century and sometimes quite instantaneous moment.
Taking France as an example, for instance bring down the unemployment level by half or raise the
economic growth to 4% sustained over ten years and check the poll results on the subject. [linked image]
Similarly, bring down ILLEGAL immigration by half even with a small rise on the Legal side and
people will relax somewhat about it.

Then, with those out of the way, we truly enter the realm of perception and feelings
which the above post did a good job of covering; thnx Rzecz.

Good day all, Tay.

Image du Blog bubblesgift.centerblog.net
Source : bubblesgift.centerblog.net sur centerblog.


Speak softly and carry a big stick.

 
 
WAFFer
(Login sparta54)
WAFFer

Re: Europeans:- Immigration

July 2 2012, 11:36 AM 

spend some time with a german family once and all they talked about was being overrun by darkies...guess its easier for them to accept other euros. Turks tend to stick to themselves...and after three gens many still aren't comfortable with german culture...guess if you move to someone elses country the least you could do is integrate. Australia isn't all that different. Some migrants fit in better than others. And, if you are good at sports then you have a head start.

 
 
Current Topic - Europeans:- Immigration  Respond to this message   
  << Previous Topic | Next Topic >>Forum Index  
WAFF recommends these sites

Indian Defence Analysis      [Definitive Lapse of Reason]