I also heard Klingeman quit. Whats wrong with Alleman?

What do you think is wrong, they never were good, and nothings gonna change that for this year either.

Klingamen is still with the team... He was at practice this morning.. I know Alleman lost another kid for sure though Yesterday.. Zach Shannon left because wrestling just wasnt for him... He tried, and has serious medical issues... But he is a heck of an athlete....

I mean you would think they would be getting more guys.And there was rumors this summer that they were gonna get some studs just like Montini did with Mcaffrey and Bennefeil. But now it seems they are going the wrong direction and losing guys? Did some guys decide to leave or not go there because of Alleman losing Coach E? Maybe that has something to do with it. Lock give the honest truth and not an Alleman sugar coated explanation. Thanks. Concerned.

they wouldnt be top 10 even if they didnt have anybody quit. they arent that good and they still have to beat riverdale

They arent top 10.... The most likely arent Top 15... I would guess they are top 20... Alleman most likely will not win a regional title this year... All those incoming guys were all rumor, I said it then and now everyone believes me... The thing is though, Alleman peaked last year... Last year they were good, this year they will be average, next year they will be a little below average, and it appears it will get worse every year... CoachE has nothing to do with the kids leaving... Alleman should be a 15 win team though... I think the Alleman wrestlers should shoot for individual success because I honestly dont feel they are strong enough from top to bottom to have much team success in the state series... But as we all know things happen....

Alleman is still a top 15 team based on the strength of 4 individuals but they need 2 more great wrestlers to be considered top 10. But even still they can beat Riverdale so everyone will see that.

Alleman most likely will not even give Riverdale a run for their money... If this were to happen Alleman better pick it up... Other wise Riverdale by 20....

20 point difference? I don't think so. You must just be saying that to create a false sense of confidence for Riverdale. It will be close but Pioneers by 3. Do a virtual dual if you don't think so.

Riverdale vs. Alleman... I might be off on the Riverdale lineup but this is how I see it...

103- B. Lind over ??? ALL 3-0
112- Ford over Sonneville 3-3
119- DeCap over Sonneville 9-3
125- Loy over Warlop 12-3
130- Blake over Pieritz 15-3
135- Gosa over Hinzman 21-3
140- Kindlesperger over Hodge 27-3
145- Riverdale get a Forfiet...33-3
152- Riverdale gets a forfiet.. 39-3
160 Moreno over ???? 39-9
171 Burkhead over ??? 30-12
189 Barlow over ???? 30-15
215 Klingamen over ???? 30-18
275 Peterson over Francis 30-21

I am missing half of the Riverdale line-up... AND THEY STILL WIN... 130 can go either way... Vince is out so i didnt even put him in it... If I get the full Riverdale line-up I will redo it..... Right now its at 9, and I know I am missing some Riverdale boys... So it could go up, and the 130 match can go the other way, but it still would mean a Riverdale win... But please give me the whole Riverdale line-up and I will REDO it...

Even with Lind out the score will be closer than that. Last I heard McNeany hadn't quit so why can't he go 145 or 152. And Warlop will beat Loy no doubt about it. Just because Chuck struggled with the kid doesn't mean he is great. And are you sure that Decap can wrestle 119? He was a awfully big 112 last year if I remember.

McNeany is still with the squad... I he totally slipped my mind... Warlop lost to Loy last year! I was there and saw it at Alleman... Chuck didnt make weight... REMEMBER??? Chuck did NOT struggle with Loy... If I recall Chuck beat him by like atleast 10, and he was banged up... Loy is tough though, I recall he had Tremble on the ropes at sectionals.... Warlop is a small 125 lber and will have trouble with Loy... DeCap is a tough kid that trains hard, and he knows what it takes to be a champion... He will be 119!!! Right now I would honestly say Blake beats Pieritz... That is if Pieritz even makes 130... He is wasting a lot of potential, and he is throwing a lot of talent away... He belongs at 130, and things arent looking good.. So if Pieritz does go 135, look for Gosa to win big still, and Blake would get a forfiet which would widden the margin of victory by more...

Riverdale Line up

103 Austin Allen or Tommy Loy 8th grader, JV/Varisty
112 Collin Ford Varsity
119 Mitch Loy Varsity
125 Drew DeCap 4th place
130 Garret Blake SQ
135 Jonathon Gosa Varsity
140 Aaron Kindelsperger SA
145 Jake Nelson SA
152 Kevin Long JV
160 Joel Price Varsity
171 Matt Borshig JV
189 Josh Bush didnt wrestle, knee injury
215 Ryan Liebbe JV
275 TJ Francis Varsity

Riverdale will be very solid from 112 to 145 and at 215 and 275, watch out for Liebbe, the kid is a beast. They will be a little shakey at 152, 160, 171, and 189. This is the most accurate line up you will see for Riverdale before the first meet, and DeCap is DEFINITELY going 125.

sorry about that, Jesse Spangler will be at 171 for riverdale, he was a sectional qualifer last year. look for him to win a few matches, my fault, sorry guys

Didn't Warlop wrestle 112 last year and Loy 119. Therefore Warlop must have wrestled up one of the many times Chuck didn't make weight. Warlop will beat Loy but the other guy says that Decap is at 125 and Loy 119.

Sorry to burst your bubble but there's not a snowball's chance of Warlop beating Loy.

Will beat Warlop... He did last year and will do it again this year... Aaron is a good kid, but not strong enough for 125... He will have a good season thugh, but I dont see him beating Loy...

it looks like Warlop will get Decap so this argument is dumb. Personally I think Warlop would win if they were at the same weight. instead of Warlop giving up 7 pounds. It would be close though so I wouldn't bet the house on the match.

there are some weights that could go either way.