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March 16 2004 at 9:12 AM
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Aeros vs Kitchener- please post schedule here!

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March 16 2004, 9:12 AM 

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schedule-

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March 16 2004, 4:55 PM 

Monday 22 March: Grand River Arena 8:15 pm
Wednesday 24 March: Brampton Centre for Sports and Entertainment 6:15 pm
Saturday 27 March: Habitant Arena 5:10 pm


    
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Aeros 8, Kitchener 2

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March 22 2004, 10:18 PM 

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Aeros 2 - Kitchener 2

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March 24 2004, 10:38 PM 

Apparently the "ladies" of Kitchener need some lessons in the appropriate use of the english language. The refs are trying to help them figure it out:
"Any player or team official who engages in verbal taunts, insults or intimidation based on discriminatory grounds (race, ethnicity, religion, gender, sexual orientation, language) shall be assessed a Game Misconduct penalty.
Notwithstanding the above, at the discretion of the Referee, a Gross Misconduct penalty may be assessed for any infraction to any player or team official."

 
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got a good Report? did Kitchener pull their tender. That 8-2 score game1

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March 25 2004, 12:20 AM 

means the rangers have to win game 3 by 7 to advance.
howabou the misconduct, call or no call.

 
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game report...

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March 25 2004, 12:28 AM 



    
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Re: game report...

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March 25 2004, 1:26 PM 

Several of my kids are minor hockey players and are members of a visible minority. Each has encountered racial taunts and slurs during games. I every case where the child making the slur was overheard by any official including those of the offenders own team the situation was delt with in an immediate and firm manner. Hockey has made a great effort to help educate and encourage their community towards civil behaviour and fair play in this regard. Congratulations to the officials who are keeping up the good work. I'm sure the young lady who was given the misconduct penalty will return to the ice a little wiser.

 
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Maybe ,maybe not! Kitchener has a history of not knowing the rules recently!!

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March 25 2004, 1:33 PM 

By the way, we agree hockey is becoming more civilized in regards to slurs, but we're not out of the woods yet. Their seems to be a lot of discussion in the back room of people defending these goofs usually surrounded by some implication on whether or what was said.

Throw the book at 'em and watch the problem become non-existant. Fair play and Fun is what hockey is supposed to be and if it's not players won't play.

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Re : Penalty

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March 25 2004, 4:19 PM 

At this game last night, during the calling of the penalties. A player from the Areo's recieved 2 minutes and the Kitchener player was tossed out of the game. I did not see the game sheet but my take is that the player received 2 minutes for? and she must have received 2 misconducts, this requires that the player is ejected from the game. If in fact that the player did receive a gross misconduct and was written up by the ref after the game, then the ref blew the call. A gross misconduct is a 5 minute major penalty.


 
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RE: RE: Penalty

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March 25 2004, 7:43 PM 

She received an M22-Inciting and a
GRM63-Discriminatory Slur


 
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Re: RE: RE: Penalty

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March 25 2004, 9:53 PM 

Was there a 5 minute penalty on the game sheet? Should have been. GRM63 is a major penalty. The penalties did not get posted on the clock, so it was impossible to tell if major was called. Also was there a person serving her penalty after she got ejected. Should have been. From where i was watching it was not possible to see if someone was in the box. Could some one else who was there tell me.

 
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Re: Re: RE: RE: Penalty

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March 26 2004, 2:07 AM 

What the hell are you talking about??? There is no major penalty associated with a Gross Misconduct, nor is there a time penalty to be served. When a Gross Misconduct is assessed, 10 minutes is recorded on the score sheet, the offending player is escorted off the ice, and the game goes on. I don't know where you get your information, but try starting with the Hockey Canada rule book next time!!

 
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GRM63

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March 26 2004, 2:17 PM 

Suspension - Indefinite (pending hearing - minimun 6 games). From OWHA book.

 
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Re: game report...

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March 26 2004, 10:08 AM 

As an Aeros dad who watched this game I would agree that what the Kitchener player shouted at the Aeros bench was inexcusable and deserved an appropriate response. And she did receive an appropriate punishment which was a gross misconduct penalty and ejection from the game.

BUT...

I fail to see what more can be achieved by identifying her on this public forum. She's just a kid and, like most kids now and most kids ten, twenty, thirty, forty years ago, she said something very stupid. And like most kids who do or say something stupid she deserves a second, third , fourth chance in the hope and expectation that she'll grow up to be a reasonably civilized human being. She doesn't deserve public humiliation.

The previous message was edited to add the name and number. I request that, after consideration of what I've just said, it be re-edited and the name deleted.

Thanks.

 
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All too often we've seen this. Racial and discriminatroy slurs are not part of hockey.

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March 26 2004, 2:17 PM 

we have seen the board deal rather ineffectively with the problem. Yes this year,again. Everyone denies anything was said but the refs made the call. With a player the ability to make a mistake is rather remote, in other words it's intentional. If she was so concerned about being held accountable , she wouldn't have gone there. To the people she directed her comment too, we apologize for the rest of the team that she plays on, in their behalf.

The player identified has over 100 penalty minutes according to their site. Do you think you'd want to play against her?
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Re: All too often we've seen this. Racial and discriminatroy slurs are not part of hockey.

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March 26 2004, 2:21 PM 

100 minutes over the 50 games played is only 2 minutes per game. Is that excessive??

 
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Re: Re: All too often we've seen this. Racial and discriminatroy slurs are not part of hockey.

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March 26 2004, 4:01 PM 

Are you saying that the normal for every player would be to average 2 minites a game. Think about it yes it is excessive if every player played like this that would be 30 minites a games per team now wouldn't that make for great hockey.

 
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RE: Excessive

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March 26 2004, 4:01 PM 

100 out of a team total of 439??? Yes that is excessive and this player certainly deserved every penalty I saw handed out to her and then some.

I think that the point is that in the Canadian justice system we don't publish the names of children convicted of far more serious crimes and this isn't really any different. Yes the player should be dealt with severly and within the rules of the OWHA but after that she should be able to come back and prove that she has learned something without doing so under a public spotlight.

 
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Well this isn;t the law. only Hockey!

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March 27 2004, 10:30 AM 

When does a child become responsible for their actions? 16,17,18,19 20 or what? A 16 year old is old enought to drive a car to kill someone, when do you think she has to be accountable. If the fans heard it, it doesn;t matter if it is mentioned here. She may be embarrassed, but maybe we've caused her to thnk about her actions for the next time. If not the game doesn't need her!! That's why suspensins are given out.

Think about the damage done to the receiver of the slur. We'll defend her if anyone needs defending.

but thanks, anyway
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