NYA HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR..."IN YOUR DREAMS, SISTER ACT!"

MAY NAG TANONG NA BABABE SA "APALIT TIANGGE MALL" KAY KOTONG QUEEN TUNGKOL SA SUGO AT KUNG SYA DAW AY SUGONG TALAGA...

BASAHIN NYO HO AT NG KAYO AY MATAWA....

BABAE: "ANG TANONG KO HO AY PARA SA INYO BRO. ELI..(malakas ang tinig nung babae kaya natunugan ni MAM ELI na di nya kayang paikutin)
"MASASABI NYO HO BA NA KAYO AY TUNAY NA SUGO NG DIOS??

MAM EL: (na-shokot) "Aba eh, er, hindi ho.

BABAE: "Bakit ho?"

MAM ELI: "Hindi ho ako magpapakilalang sugo ng DIos, iba ho ang mag papakilala para sa akin..Ganito ho yan eh, parang PRESIDENTE at yung kanyang MESSENGER...yung Messenger ang nag papakilala na PRESIDENTE yung amo nya..

NYA HAR HAR HAR HAR EL BOBITA TALAGA SI MAMING..

TAPOS SA ISANG TAGPO NA TINANONG SYA NUNG MATANDANG LALAKI KUNG SYA AY SUGO...HETO NAMAN ANG SAGOT NYA...

MAM ELI:"ABA EH, KABISADO KO BIBLYA(kahit patay ilaw), ALAM KONG GAWIN ANG PINAGAGAWA NG AMA(yung mga depuwit), "EH NAPAKA BALIW KO NAMAN KUNG HINDI KO AAMINING AKO ANG SUGO"...

NYAHAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR.."NAPAKA BALIW MO NGA TALAGA, NUON KO PA SINASABI SA YO YAN MAM ELI, SA KABILANG FORUM PALANG DI BA?? AT HANGGANG NGAYON AY SINASABI KO ULIT YAN SA JOWA MONG SI INAN_TOK NA AYAW DING MANIWALA..HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR

KAKAIBANG URI ITONG SI MAM ELI, HINDI LANG BIBLYA ANG KINOKONTRA NYA KUNDI MISMONG SARILI NYA...NYYAAAAAA HAR HAR HAR A HAR HAR HAR HAR

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BRO. ELI SORIANO, SUGO NG DIOS!!...

1. NA MAY PUWET
2. NG SANLIBUTANG ITO

Why, what do you think of him? Huh? Do you think, he will be a sensible preacher if he wasn't appointed by God?

Prove to us that he is a preacher that had not been appointed by God...
Prove to us that God has a manlook features...
Prove to us that Bro Eli is a gay and he have been accused of several charges such as rape?

And if that's not credible, we'll not believe you...

ayt...

~Rufah~

rufah: Why, what do you think of him? Huh? Do you think, he will be a sensible preacher if he wasn't appointed by God?

dcon: and whoever told you that he is sensible? try opening your eyes sister. would be a preacher contradicting his OWN teachings be sensible?

fyi - not all those who preach are sent by God. a lot of them are NOT! otherwise, none of these arguments will come up. if you beleive that all so called preachers are sent by God, how come they don't explain the bible the same way as the other?

Bro, you know, As what I've said, preachers are those who sent by God to teach us His Holy Word for us to be saved. And of course, they have been appointed by Him through their knowledge of Theology and other course related to the bible, And nobody is perfect so preachers sometimes can commit mistakes, and even us also, commit some mistakes, but we, as all the preachers who commit mistakes find several ways to avoid committng mistakes again, and dont you know that the bible has several translations, so that there art lots of times that most of our preachers cannot avoid commit mistakes in teache=ing the bible, and who told you that most of the preachers often contradict their own teachings? Show me...

And, one thing is, do you think that preachers are like God woho dont commit mistakes because they were sent by Him? You know that even his apostles sometimes commit minor mistakes and they're also find ways to avoid committng mistakes again, so preachers do also. Only God and Jesus Christ are those who have not committed mistakes ever since.

Okei... Can you show me some instances of things that preachers can commit of? Ahh!!! I know... Those that cam be watched in the channel 25, The INC shows... Why? Do you think that those are true? Why dont you ask yourself... "Is that credible.... or they just make a libelous words againts their co preachers?"

You know, the Bible can have a contradiction with the original but, whatever does it says, we should remember that the Bible is a Word Of God that we should believed of...

ayt...

Take care and God bless....

~Rufah~

rufah:Bro, you know, As what I've said, preachers are those who sent by God to teach us His Holy Word for us to be saved. And of course, they have been appointed by Him through their knowledge of Theology and other course related to the bible,

dcon: i agree that true preachers are sent by God. actually you can consider it as the first requirement in being a preacher. they should be appointed by God. the messenger that we beleive in got biblical basis about his commissioning, where is yours? although theological knowledge is also needed, but it doesn't mean that anyone who is knowledgeable in biblical theology is sent by God.

rufah: And nobody is perfect so preachers sometimes can commit mistakes, and even us also, commit some mistakes

dcon: that's true! as the saying goes: to err is human. right? even our pastors commit mistakes sometimes. BUT NEVER ON THE ACT OF PREACHING! they can commit mistakes on their personal lives, how they talk or pronounce words during preaching but NEVER on the lesson or teaching or doctrines that we uphold.

rufah:as all the preachers who commit mistakes find several ways to avoid committng mistakes again

dcon: that's a good attitude!

rufah:and dont you know that the bible has several translations, so that there art lots of times that most of our preachers cannot avoid commit mistakes in teache=ing the bible,

dcon: i'm aware that there are lots of bible translations. but f.y.i. sis, none of them contradicts the other. those are God's words, He will never say anything that will contradict his other statements. only eli soriano does that! you can read all bible translations from cover to cover, and with the right guidance, none of it is contradicting. beleive me.

rufah: and who told you that most of the preachers often contradict their own teachings? Show me...

dcon: i can't tell you much, but i can name one: eliseo f soriano.

rufah:And, one thing is, do you think that preachers are like God woho dont commit mistakes because they were sent by Him?

dcon: nope! preachers are not like God. otherwise, what kind of god will be sent by another god? of course they can commit mistakes! but as i have said: NOT IN THE ACT OF PREACHING!

rufah: You know that even his apostles sometimes commit minor mistakes and they're also find ways to avoid committng mistakes again, so preachers do also. Only God and Jesus Christ are those who have not committed mistakes ever since.

dcon: can you give me a verse in the bible that shows an apostle committed mistake in preaching? we firmly beleive that true preachers sent by God are guided by the holy spirit specially when they are on the act of preaching. that's why they NEVER made any mistake when it comes to doctrines or teachings. so if your preacher is prone to committing mistakes, start thingking sis! he may not be guided by the holy spirit. and it's a very scary truth!

rufah: Okei... Can you show me some instances of things that preachers can commit of? Ahh!!! I know... Those that cam be watched in the channel 25, The INC shows... Why? Do you think that those are true? Why dont you ask yourself... "Is that credible.... or they just make a libelous words againts their co preachers

dcon: come on sis! use your common sense! if some of those footages were not true, there should be at least on libel suit filed by now! and none is! why? because the men and women on the said footages knows that those are true. they know that the authenticity of the tapes can be and will be proven in court.

rufah: You know, the Bible can have a contradiction with the original but, whatever does it says, we should remember that the Bible is a Word Of God that we should believed of...

dcon: a piece of advice, think about this statement again. this kind of beleif can cost you your very soul. why? to think that the bible has contradictions(or the ones that we have now if compared to the original) is like beleiving that God is not almighty. HE IS GOD! THOSE ARE HIS WORDS! HE WANTS US TO BE SAVED BECAUSE HE LOVES US! HE WILL NEVER ALLOW THAT THE BIBLE THAT WE HAVE NOW IS CONTRADICTING TO WHAT HE SAID THEN! HE IS ALL POWERFUL! HE CAN PROTECT HIS WORDS SO IT WILL REACH US THE WAY HE INTENDED TO SAY IT! got the picture? so please, rethink this.we beleive that even though there are lots of translations, and some of it are mistranslated, He has a purpose(probably to embarass the false preachers by falling into mistakes). He still gives us a way to fully understand it WITHOUT THE CONTRADICTIONS.

i'll try to answer more of your comments whenever i have the time. i'm kinda busy at work.

it's nice to talk to you. you're a lot better than your other brothers here in the forum.

MAY GOD GIVE YOU LIGHT TO FIND THE TRUE WAY TO SALVATION.

till next time! freind!

Bro, what are the instnces that will prove Bro Eli have committed mistakes based on his act of preaching? Like spitting and uttering bad words againts other preachers? Yah, I know that's bad, and I also saw some footages that shows him doing those things. But the question is, Does he intend to do that? Haven't you asked yourself that "Did he do that intentionally, or it doesn't meant for him to do that because I know that God gave us ability to think, to distinguish right from wrong, and to be the best as what he is...And besides, if he have done that, maybe he had already confessed and promised himself not to do those things anymore...and, as what I have said, uttering curse words, can by done intentionally or not intentionally, and I know that an ordered preacher like Bro Eli will NOT INTENTIONALLY utter cursive words especially during their gathering days or in television... Yah, I have watched some of the INC shows that lays at least 700 contradictions of Bro. Eli, but the question is.. where did they get that video clippings? Do they have a video cam of every gatherings of Bro. Eli and his company? And how sure are you bout your assurance that there should be a libel suit againts INC and how sure are you that the former members of Bro. Eli's company tell the truth about Bro. Eli himself? And regarding the bible translations, hellow.. not all the translations in the bible is as same as the original, particularly when it is translated with other foreighn languages...there might be a little bit of contradiction but that doesn't mean that there have a lot of major contradiction from the original. There might be a contradictions but the IDEA is the same as the original, ayt.... And you know, I can assure you that even God's apostles committed mistakes. Why? Because even Adam and Eve, which are the one first created by God had comitted mistakes....hellow....

I think I have answered all of your comments and I hope you'll think of that
Anyways, got to go... I have my Finance class right after this...
Bye... take care and God bless...

~Rufah~

rufah:Bro, what are the instnces that will prove Bro Eli have committed mistakes based on his act of preaching?

dcon: aren't you listening to his programs? actually you don't need to watch net 25 shows to see his mistakes. just be vigilant about what he teaches while you're watching his programs.

rufah:Like spitting and uttering bad words againts other preachers? Yah, I know that's bad, and I also saw some footages that shows him doing those things. But the question is, Does he intend to do that? Haven't you asked yourself that "Did he do that intentionally, or it doesn't meant for him to do that because I know that God gave us ability to think, to distinguish right from wrong, and to be the best as what he is...

dcon: you know sis, it's not a question of wether he intentionally do that or not. HE DID IT IN FRONT OF NATIONAL TELEVISION! spitting is normal for every human being. everybody does that. but uttering bad words can be and should be prevented by a true preacher, specially when he is directing it to someone. to say "gago" is one thing.(i hope you understand the meaning)but to say "gago ka michael(sandoval)" is another. the first one can be accepted as an expression. but the second one? i'm sure you wouldn't want your name to be on ka michael's place on the sentence. and because things like these, i have thought just now, eli soriano didn't even qualify in being a broadcaster...what more in being a preacher? yeah, God gave us the ability to think and distinguish between right and wrong. all the more proves that eli lacks His guidance. he wasn't able to distinguish that cursing is wrong. or maybe eli is somewhere else when God gave us that ability? inside a dark room with uly perhaps?

rufah:...And besides, if he have done that, maybe he had already confessed and promised himself not to do those things anymore...and, as what I have said, uttering curse words, can by done intentionally or not intentionally, and I know that an ordered preacher like Bro Eli will NOT INTENTIONALLY utter cursive words especially during their gathering days or in television...

dcon: maybe he did TRIED to confess, but remember: forgiveness is only given to those who are inside the TRUE church. yes, uttering those kind of word can be done both intentionally or not. but i say he did it intentionally. you were saying that eli will NOT DO IT INTENTIONALLY? ESPECIALLY ON TV? sis, the remarks i quoted above regarding "gago" was aired on national tv. he even challenged ka michael to file a lawsuit against him for that(which ka michael did).

rufah:Yah, I have watched some of the INC shows that lays at least 700 contradictions of Bro. Eli, but the question is.. where did they get that video clippings? Do they have a video cam of every gatherings of Bro. Eli and his company? And how sure are you bout your assurance that there should be a libel suit againts INC and how sure are you that the former members of Bro. Eli's company tell the truth about Bro. Eli himself?

dcon: that's good! i encourage you to watch more. those clippings both audio and videos were all recorded from his programs on tv and radio. some of it given or even sold to us by his members.

helllooooo! those exposes are taking eli's house down, if those were meer fabrications, tons of lawsuits should have been filed by now! i don't just hold on the comments of his former members, but to eli soriano's words himself. saying that the guy(who he allegedly raped) didn't resist what eli was doing, but even liked it.

rufah:And regarding the bible translations, hellow.. not all the translations in the bible is as same as the original, particularly when it is translated with other foreighn languages...there might be a little bit of contradiction but that doesn't mean that there have a lot of major contradiction from the original. There might be a contradictions but the IDEA is the same as the original, ayt.... And you know, I can assure you that even God's apostles committed mistakes. Why? Because even Adam and Eve, which are the one first created by God had comitted mistakes....hellow....

dcon: did you know about God's warning to those who will try to change the bible? i'm no preacher so i can't tell you the exact verse but it goes a little something like this, to anyone who will erase even a single punctuation on this book, his name will be erased from the book of life; and he who adds even a single letter in it, curses will be added unto him. see? so your claim can't be possible. God will never let it happen. He himself guided the persons who wrote the manuscripts. he told them what to write and what's not to be written. like the case of the 7 thunders that one apostle(if i'm not mistaken) heard while writing. He directly told him not to write it.

and besides, you are just trying to justify eli soriano. trying to hide from the idea that there are contradictions in the bible that's why eli also contradicts himself.(good try! but to no success)I STAND FIRM TO OUR BELEIF: THERE ARE NO CONTRADICTIONS INSIDE THE BIBLE.

as i have told you before, the apostles made mistakes. but not on the act of preaching for they are guided by the Holy Spirit(which eli lacks that's why he keep on committing mistakes). as for example: one apostle cried "ghost" when he saw the Lord walking on the water. he mistaken the Lord for a ghost yes! but was he preaching on that particular time? NO!

and you cannot compare adam and eve with the apostles. for they were never preachers. got the BBBBIIIIGGGGG difference?

i invite you to keep on watching our programs.

till next time friend!

Rufah Buenaventura
(Login ruffah_cutie) BRO ELI SORIANO, SUGO NG DIOS
No score for this post November 9 2006, 11:55 AM

Why, what do you think of him? Huh? Do you think, he will be a sensible preacher if he wasn't appointed by God?

Prove to us that he is a preacher that had not been appointed by God...
Prove to us that God has a manlook features...
Prove to us that Bro Eli is a gay and he have been accused of several charges such as rape?

And if that's not credible, we'll not believe you...

ayt...

~Rufah~

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Prove to us first that God has a butt, just like what your idol Eli Soriano teaches.

?

Carboloy,



"?" na lang ang kaya mong ipost ngayon?

Rufah Buenaventura
(Login ruffah_cutie) BRO ELI SORIANO, SUGO NG DIOS
No score for this post November 10 2006, 11:28 AM

Bro, you know, As what I've said, preachers are those who sent by God to teach us His Holy Word for us to be saved. And of course, they have been appointed by Him through their knowledge of Theology and other course related to the bible, And nobody is perfect so preachers sometimes can commit mistakes, and even us also, commit some mistakes, but we, as all the preachers who commit mistakes find several ways to avoid committng mistakes again, and dont you know that the bible has several translations, so that there art lots of times that most of our preachers cannot avoid commit mistakes in teache=ing the bible, and who told you that most of the preachers often contradict their own teachings? Show me...

And, one thing is, do you think that preachers are like God woho dont commit mistakes because they were sent by Him? You know that even his apostles sometimes commit minor mistakes and they're also find ways to avoid committng mistakes again, so preachers do also. Only God and Jesus Christ are those who have not committed mistakes ever since.

Okei... Can you show me some instances of things that preachers can commit of? Ahh!!! I know... Those that cam be watched in the channel 25, The INC shows... Why? Do you think that those are true? Why dont you ask yourself... "Is that credible.... or they just make a libelous words againts their co preachers?"

You know, the Bible can have a contradiction with the original but, whatever does it says, we should remember that the Bible is a Word Of God that we should believed of...

ayt...

Take care and God bless....

~Rufah~

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They why don't you show to us what particular chapter/s and verse/s in the Bible can we read that ALL preachers are sent by God?

And show to us also particular chapter/s and verse/s in the Bible which states that a true preacher of God commits mistakes in his TEACHINGS.

To claim is one thing, but to prove is another thing.

Rufah Buenaventura (Login ruffah_cutie)
Posted Nov 11, 2006 1:51 PM

Bro, what are the instnces that will prove Bro Eli have committed mistakes based on his act of preaching? Like spitting and uttering bad words againts other preachers? Yah, I know that's bad, and I also saw some footages that shows him doing those things. But the question is, Does he intend to do that? Haven't you asked yourself that "Did he do that intentionally, or it doesn't meant for him to do that because I know that God gave us ability to think, to distinguish right from wrong, and to be the best as what he is...And besides, if he have done that, maybe he had already confessed and promised himself not to do those things anymore...and, as what I have said, uttering curse words, can by done intentionally or not intentionally, and I know that an ordered preacher like Bro Eli will NOT INTENTIONALLY utter cursive words especially during their gathering days or in television...

INGKOTONG: Are you awake when you posted this? Hello! If what you say is true, then it would be Soriano "unintentionally" utters and badmouths words over and over again.

Do you even see how your post is illogical? If he doesn't mean it, how come he does it over and over again.

LIke when he said to the old man who asked him a question: "Eh matanda ka na eh tanga ka pa rin hanggang ngayon eh."

Or when he said to Ka Paul Guevarra: "Gago ka Paul, gago ka!"

Or when he said to the INC ministers: "Kundi ba naman mga gago kayo!"

Don't you even see the irony of your saying we should respect Eliseo Soriano because he is a preacher? So how come you do not tell Soriano not to badmouth INC Ministers because they are preachers too? You see the logioc and the point?

But you are wrong. Since he already admitted meaning the bad words he uttered in some of your broadcast. The only thing funny is he doesn't admit that "Taranatado, Gago, Ulol, Demonyo, etc, addressed to other preachers are bad words.

And sorry If I don't belive you that Soriano is fond of belittling other people. He even tolerates his manggagawa telling to his (manggagawa's) mother na nilalandi nito ang tatay niya in national TV. And the sad part is instead of Soriano and your MICs (Navales, Magdaraog, Willy SantiagO) reprimanding your manggagawa for badmouthing his own mother, they (MIC and Soriano) are laughing in the background.

Now, how did that happen?


Rufah Cutie wrote:

Yah, I have watched some of the INC shows that lays at least 700 contradictions of Bro. Eli, but the question is.. where did they get that video clippings? Do they have a video cam of every gatherings of Bro. Eli and his company? And how sure are you bout your assurance that there should be a libel suit againts INC and how sure are you that the former members of Bro. Eli's company tell the truth about Bro. Eli himself?

INGKOTONG: Again, you see you are contradicting yourself. In other posts, you look for video clips of Eli's contradictions but here you admit there are video clips only you doubt the source.

Well, let me tell you this. Some of the former members of ADD records videos and audios of him during most of your activities (remember these are during the times when they are really good followers of your organization). Then when Net25 broadcasted recorded broadcasts of your programs, these former members' attention were caught by the fact that indeed they remember Soriano teaching the same thing. When they decided to leave the ADD, they gave NET25 their recorded videos and audios of Soriano's teachings (remember during that time it is still allowed for members to record Soriano's teachings because NET25 doesn't broadcast yet). It is only during the time after showing contradictions from broadcasted footages of Soriano did NET25 gotten hold of tapes recorded by former members.

This is the reason why Soriano can not file any case against the former members because these records are properties of those former members.



Rufah Cutie wrote:

And regarding the bible translations, hellow.. not all the translations in the bible is as same as the original, particularly when it is translated with other foreighn languages...there might be a little bit of contradiction but that doesn't mean that there have a lot of major contradiction from the original. There might be a contradictions but the IDEA is the same as the original, ayt.... And you know, I can assure you that even God's apostles committed mistakes. Why? Because even Adam and Eve, which are the one first created by God had comitted mistakes....hellow....

I think I have answered all of your comments and I hope you'll think of that
Anyways, got to go... I have my Finance class right after this...
Bye... take care and God bless...

~Rufah~


INGKOTONG: For God's sake Rufah. Soriano did not use a Hebrew Bible (which He can not understand by the way) or a Greek Bible. He used his so-called katiwa-tiwalang salin- a version of the Bible which he uses everyday in his programs and I'm sure in all your activities in Pmpanga. How come he made a mistake in understanding (take note: understanding) what the verse of Romans 13:13 says. It made use of the word ARAW which is easily understood. How come he still made a mistake.

And what would happen if a member of ADD died the following day Soriano taught a mistaken doctrine? Would this member be saved when in fact he died with a wrong belief because Soriano MADE A MISTAKE?



Your analogy is wrong. Adam and Eve were not chosen by God to preach His words. The Apostles were. And don't belittle the Apostles by saying they committed mistakes in preaching just because Soriano commits mistakes very often.

Why? How sure are you regarding your point that he is cursing a lot of times? Why? have you been monitoring him everyday, 24 hours, 7 days? For me to believe with your assurance that he is cursing several times? Mayby its true, but it is only his expressions, te way he expressees himself. You also, you usually curse when we got angry with someone, but it is done unintentionally.. right, The only thing I just want to point out is anyone can nurse unitentionally, over and over with our enemies. Only with that, but as much as possible we should not burst our temper with cursing words. But there are some person who cannot control their temper, and that's Bro. Eli. Maybe, he is out of temper, so he cannot avoid uttering harsh words to someone sinned to him. Okei, for me to believe you... can you give me some instances to prove me that he utters that word such as "Taranatado, Gago, Ulol, Demonyo, etc, in national television. Coz I've been watching their programs on TV but I"ve not yet heard him uttering those words... really.. I admit he shouts, maybe because there are so many audiences watching and believing him. But I've never heard him saying those words.

By the way, Im not contradicting myself... yah, really, Im asking for the REAL, not TAMPERED video clips of Bro. Eli's Contradiction.. I asked in my last post where did they get those clippings because the Net 25 itself was the one who got those clippings...and they gave that to INC ministers who tampered that clippings... Again, IM ASKING FOR THE REAL AND ORIGINAL CIDEO CLIPPINGS OF BRO. ELI'S CONTRADICTION. ayt... And Have you seen the former members of Bro. Eli's company recording some of the activities on their gathering during at the same time? Have you even caught them doing that? And by the way, Are you a member of that religion, and you know all what they've done? How did you know all the members of that religion? Or you're just inventing?

And fyi.. Soriano didn't file a case because he knows that fighting back is a sinful act...

Really... Soriano didn't know the hebrew bible? or greek bible? Oh come on... How come he became a preacher appointed by God if he doesn't even know the hebrew bible... of course, he knows....If he knows the entire filipino bible, therefore he also knows other translations in the bible... He also knows spanish bible, fyi... even the cebuano bible, the hiligaynon bible, and other translations of the bible... okei..wake up please and watch all ADD programs everyday so that you will know everything... ayt...

And for me to believe you, give me some evidences, or any evidences or an Original clippiings that will prove me with your assurance that Bro. Eli oftentimes makes a mistakes...show me one by one...

Im not saying that Adam and Eve are appointed by God to preach His Words, Im trying to say that His apostles who are preachers by their time have also commit mistakes because Adam and Eve who are preachers had committed mistakes....

Think it word by word... okei..

~Rufah~

As usual, until now this Ang Dating Daan fanatic rufah can't cite evidences form the Scriptures that true preachers of God commit mistakes in their TEACHINGS.

I tell you what, Rufah - the more you express your personal beliefs and opinions that contradict the teachings of the Bible, the more your credibility goes down below sea level.

You know why? I am sure that apostles have committed a lot of minor mistakes... because they're just a person, and nobody is perfect, and maybe, they can commit a minor mistakes and they dont do that intentionally... coz, Adam and Eve, who are not preacher had committed mistakes, so apostles do also... ayt...

And whatever you say, I will stand my propositions and Im ready to be in a discussion, for I am a debater...And excuse me.. my credibility haven't goes down at the sea level... Maybe yours....

~Rufah~

THE APOSTLES COMMITTED A LOT OF MISTAKES??? IN WHAT SENSE? YOU KEEP ON SAYING THINGS LIKE THAT BUT YOU DIDNT EVEN BOTHER TO SUPPORT YOUR CLAIM WITH A SINGLE VERSE FROM THE BIBLE. YOU EVEN CLAIMED YOURE A DEBATER! COME ON RUFAH, SHOW US PROOFS. UPHOLD YOUR CREDIBILITY.
WHERE CAN YOU READ( WHAT CHAPTER AND VERSE) FROM THE BIBLE THAT THE APOSTLES COMMITTED MISTAKES

RUFAH SAID: Im not saying that Adam and Eve are appointed by God to preach His Words, Im trying to say that His apostles who are preachers by their time have also commit mistakes because Adam and Eve who are preachers had committed mistakes....

HEY RUFAH, CAN YOU SEE THE CONTRADICTION IN THIS POSTING OF YOURS? I BET YOU DO. YOURE A COPYCAT OF MR SORIANO. GIVE YOURSELF SOME SPACE AND DONT BE BIAS.

Cool lang mga bros,

This daydreaming little girl is just trying to catch the attentions of everybody in this forum.
Imagine, a 17 years old girl, claimed to be a debater wants to have and ready for a discussion.

I was impressed??????

Rufah Buenaventura
(Login ruffah_cutie) Re: BRO. ELI SORIANO ng Ang Dating Daan, SUGO NG DIOS!!
No score for this post November 14 2006, 4:01 PM

You know why? I am sure that apostles have committed a lot of minor mistakes... because they're just a person, and nobody is perfect, and maybe, they can commit a minor mistakes and they dont do that intentionally... coz Adam and Eve, who are not preacher had committed mistakes, so apostles do also... ayt...

And what mistakes are you referring to? Please clarify.

And whatever you say, I will stand my propositions and Im ready to be in a discussion, for I am a debater...And excuse me.. my credibility haven't goes down at the sea level... Maybe yours....

~Rufah~

Oh really? Then you should prepare yourself starting today 'coz I will bombard you with losts of topics for you to choose for our discussion.

Since you're an ADD symphatizer and you want a discussion then you will be obligated to defend their beliefs and doctrines. And I don't see any reason for you not to do it.

As I've said... I've not yet read the entire bible... I say that God's Apostles have committed mistakes, in a MINOR ACTS.... not a grave offense.. huh... coz even Adam and Eve, who are not preachers had committed mistakes, but I cannot tell you what are those because I have not read the entire bible..

Really... you'll give me some topics for us to be discussed? Sure... Call... Yah, I will... I will defend what is the right doctrines....

~Rufah~

Rufah,

Have you read Mark 14:50-52?

In which teaching of Soriano do you agree?

1. That the naked man is Mark?


or


2. That the naked man is mentally imbalanced (may diperensya)?

Anonymous (Login Ingkotong)
CYBRO
Posted Nov 16, 2006 1:06 PM

Rufah,

Have you read Mark 14:50-52?

In which teaching of Soriano do you agree?

1. That the naked man is Mark?


or


2. That the naked man is mentally imbalanced (may diperensya)?
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natutuwa naman ako...ngayon ko lng napansin tong question nato kasi active member pko ng ADD noon kaya d ko pinapansin...ako po ang sasagot s question mo bro ayun kay Bro Eli..

Nung una ang sabi nya is yung no 2. which is may diperensya.

after sometime...nung maipit sya at gusto nyang palabasin n hindi iniwan c Kristo ng mga alagad... it was MARK daw...so maliwanag n ang turo ni soriano baliw c Marcos..

Wirdo noh?...

hahaha

Rufah Buenaventura
(Login ruffah_cutie) Re: BRO. ELI SORIANO ng Ang Dating Daan, SUGO NG DIOS!!
No score for this post November 16 2006, 1:01 PM

As I've said... I've not yet read the entire bible... I say that God's Apostles have committed mistakes, in a MINOR ACTS.... not a grave offense.. huh... coz even Adam and Eve, who are not preachers had committed mistakes, but I cannot tell you what are those because I have not read the entire bible..

That's why I'm asking you what mistakes are you referring to. Please be specific.

Really... you'll give me some topics for us to be discussed? Sure... Call... Yah, I will... I will defend what is the right doctrines....

~Rufah~

You can check out my threads that I raised for you in this forum, such as this link:

http://www.network54.com/Forum/261121/thread/1085384460/last-1163511593/

Diba po sabi nyo bawal ang magpa Sexy ayon sa bibliya?
Tanung lang po may kalat na kalat napo nagmembro po sa inyo na galing politika na negosyante at yung kanyang negosyo ay pang pa-Sexy ng katawan, at nagbayad po sa inyo at UNTV na pag-aari ninyo po para ipromote ninyo at nakiisa po kayo sa pag pro-promote nito ayon sa opisyal ni ka- Darius Razon at sakatunayan makikita naka post Asawa nya sa knilang Shop sa Mandaluyong na ngaun ay hawak na ng ADD ang naturang tindahan ng pang pa-Sexy maging sa youtube at net,

(Ang nakikita po namin dito Ka-Elly ay tungkol sa Pera kita nito, ksi ang dating Corset or pang-paSexy ay 3,5000 na ginawa ng mga opisyal nyo ng 8,500 ang isa may nakalap po kaming MGA IBEDENSYA na tinutukoy nitong pang-paSEXY ay mga opisyal ng lokal ng Mandaluyong at Apalit ang nagpapalakad na nito) ang laki pong kita anu po?
2 Tanung anu po layunin ng ADD? mag patupad sa sinasabi sa Bibliya or maka pera, labis labis po kasi