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ano kinamatay ni judas

March 23 2006 at 10:52 AM
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meron bang nakaka alam d2 sa inyo kung paano namatay si judas?????


    
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ANGEL _09
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Ang ikinamatay ni Judas...

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March 23 2006, 11:40 AM 

Para kay Angel daw:

Marami ang nagtatalo-talo ukol sa pagkamatay ni Judas. Kanya kanya silang panukala upang maipakita ang kanilang nalalaman, na kung susuriin ay parang malayo sa kaligtasan.
Upang maiwasan ang marami pang pagtatalo, ito ang tunay na dahilan ng pagkamatay ni Judas:

Siya ay nalagutan ng hininga...

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Re: Ang ikinamatay ni Judas...

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March 23 2006, 12:00 PM 

hahahaha,,,,,kala ko ba nag aral ka ng biblia,,,ang kapal ng mukha mo na sabihin mag aral ako ng biblia ,,eheheh ikaw pala itong walang alam sa biblia,,,,,,, sagot ng mga walang alam yan sagot mo hoy,,,,,,,kawawa ka naman,,,,,,,tanong mo sa mga katoliko ba alam nila.,,,,,,,,,nakakatwa ang sagot mo,,,,,,,,,,,, nalagutan ng hininga hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha eh lam c.s. lang yan,,,,,,sympre patay na eh di walang hninga hehehe ahaha heheh tanong mo sa mga kalahi mo d2 baka alam nila para maturuan ka nila,,,,

 
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March 23 2006, 12:08 PM 

Kakatuwa ba?

Ang sagot ko ay exculsive lang para sa tangang katulad mo...Pain yan at alam kong ikaw ang sasagot...Now you have proven yourself...

Angel

 
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Beso Beso again...

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March 23 2006, 12:12 PM 

You have swallowed hook, line and sinker...

Ganyan si Soriano kaya umabot sa 500 over ang kontradiksiyon niya... and you're following his footsteps...

angel

 
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Re: ano kinamatay ni judas

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March 23 2006, 12:32 PM 

Huwag na tayong umasa pa ng matinong posts sa panatikong iyan, palibhasa puro pangangantiyaw at panlalait lang ang laman ng utak niya.


 
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Re: Beso Beso again...

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March 24 2006, 10:01 AM 

hahaha sumagot ka lang sa tanong , bakit ayaw mong sagutin, o baka hindi mo lang talaga alam , tanong mo kaya sa puno nyo baka alam nya,,,,,,,,,kayo naman ohhh , oy pikon,,,,,,,pag hindi alam ang sagot sabihin mo lang hirit na ok lang sa akin yon,,,,,,ibibigay ko naman ang sagot ko sa inyo,,,,,par naman madagdagan ang kaalaman nyo hindi lang puro kontradiksyon na gagawa nyo ang alam mo,,,,,,,,heheheeh lam mo ako naaawa talaga sa inyo,,,,,,. sagot ka ha?

 
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Re: ano kinamatay ni judas

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March 24 2006, 10:06 AM 

hahahaha ikaw isa ka pa matino naman ang tanong ko inyo , tapos sabihin mo puro panlalait, kayo nga puro panlalait binabaliktad mo naman,,,hehehe isa ka pa dyan kunwari marami alam sa bible , bigay mo nalang ang sagot mo hindi ka lang puro dada dyan, kung alam sabihin mo lang sagot lang naman ang hinihintay ko sa inyo ,,,,,,,,,sino kaya ang manlalait sa atin ha????? ikaw nga sa photo mo palang na handle eheheheh nanlalait ka naehhhh,,,,,,wawawa ka naman hoy ;;;;;; kung alam mo sumgot ka lang sa tanong hehehehehehe ahahahaha
malaki lang ang kapilya nyo,,,,,bayad na ba?/??? sagot ka sa tanong ha?????????????????

 
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Re: ano kinamatay ni judas

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March 24 2006, 2:05 PM 

SIRIT...

 
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i hope that this will help

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March 24 2006, 2:26 PM 

I did some research on this topic and most of the commentators of the bible agreed on one story which is

"There is no contradiction here at all because both are true. A contradiction occurs when one statement excludes the possibility of another. In fact, what happened here is that Judas went and hung himself and then his body later fell down and split open. In other words, the rope or branch of the tree probably broke due to the weight and his body fell down and his bowels spilled out.
Also, notice that Matt. 27:3-8 tells us specifically how Judas died, by hanging. Acts 1:16-19 merely tells us that he fell headlong and his bowels gushed out. Acts does not tell us that this is the means of his death where Matthew does.
"

http://www.carm.org/diff/Matt27_3.htm

"And went and hanged himself - The word used in the original, here, has given rise to much discussion, whether it means that he was suffocated or strangled by his great grief, or whether he took his life by suspending himself. It is acknowledged on all hands, however, that the latter is its most usual meaning, and it is certainly the most obvious meaning. Peter says, in giving an account of the death of Jesus Act_1:18, that Judas, “falling headlong, burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out.” There has been supposed to be some difficulty in reconciling these two accounts, but there is really no necessary difference. Both accounts are true. Matthew records the mode in which Judas attempted his death by hanging. Peter speaks of the result. Judas probably passed out of the temple in great haste and perturbation of mind. He sought a place where he might perpetrate this crime.
He would not, probably, be very careful about the fitness or the means he used. In his anguish, his haste, his desire to die, he seized upon a rope and suspended himself; and it is not at all remarkable, or indeed unusual, that the rope might prove too weak and break. Falling headlong - that is, on his face - he burst asunder, and in awful horrors died - a double death, with double pains and double horrors - the reward of his aggravated guilt. The explanation here suggested will be rendered more probable if it be supposed that he hung himself near some precipitous valley. “Interpreters have suggested,” says Professor Hackett (Illustrations of Scripture, pp. 275, 276), “that Judas may have hung himself on a tree near a precipice over the valley of Hinnom, and that, the limb or rope breaking, he fell to the bottom, and was dashed to pieces by the fall. For myself, I felt, as I stood in this valley and looked up to the rocky terraces which hang over it, that the proposed explanation was a perfectly natural one. I was more than ever satisfied with it. I measured the precipitous, almost perpendicular walls in different places, and found the height to be, variously, 40, 36, 33, 30, and 25 feet. Trees still grow quite near the edge of these rocks, and, no doubt, in former times were still more numerous in the same place. A rocky pavement exists, also, at the bottom of the ledges, and hence on that account, too, a person who should fall from above would be liable to be crushed and mangled as well as killed. The traitor may have struck, in his fall, upon some pointed rock, which entered the body and caused ‘his bowels to gush out.’”


Albert Barnes notes on the Bible


Para naman saakin, kung wala man binabanggit ang biblia sa ikaliliwanag ng bagay na ito ay dahil hindi ito makakatulong sa ikaliligtas ng tao.

Juan 20:30-31 Gumawa rin nga si Jesus ng iba't ibang maraming tanda sa harap ng kaniyang mga alagad, na hindi nangasusulat sa aklat na ito: Nguni't ang mga ito ay nangasulat, upang kayo'y magsisampalataya na si Jesus ay ang Cristo, ang Anak ng Dios; at sa inyong pagsampalataya ay magkaroon kayo ng buhay sa kaniyang pangalan.

Juan 21:25 At mayroon ding iba't ibang mga bagay na ginawa si Jesus, na kung susulating isa-isa, ay inaakala ko na kahit sa sanglibutan ay hindi magkakasiya ang mga aklat na susulatin.

 
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Re: ano kinamatay ni judas

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March 24 2006, 2:31 PM 

Aside from Tidus post, here is another explanation:


Matthew 27:5 – Then He threw the money on to the floor of the Temple and went out and HANGED HIMSELF.

According to the verse, Judas hanged himself.

But, if you will read Acts 1: 16-20, there is a mention of: “he bought a field with the money he received for his treachery and falling headlong there, he burst open, spilling out his bowels.

Now this seems to be a different scenario of how Judas died when you compare this to Matthew 27:5.

When you hang yourself you’ll fall feet first because the noose is tied around the neck (Matthew 27:5) but in Acts, Judas fell head first.

Different Bible enthusiasts provide several reasons why this is so:

1. Some say that Judas’ “falling” in Acts is not the literal falling headfirst but falling from grace when he turned Jesus in.
2. Some say that the “bowels” being mentioned in Acts is not literal bowels or guts but what the Hebrews considered as “kalooban” where the positive value of tenderness resides as in our “magandang kaloooban” or “magandang loob”. For the Hebrews kalooban is not necessarily from the heart but sometimes used in bowels.

If you’re looking for a definite answer as kung paano namatay si Judas, then Matthew 27:5 can answer your question. But if you insist on it’s not how he died, Acts 1:16-20 may suffice to you but the latter version is more inclined to symbolical explanation of how he fell from God’s grace.



Now, I hope you will answer my question regarding a verse in Mark which I
posted in another thread.




 
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HA PATAY NA BA SI JUDAS?

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March 24 2006, 2:32 PM 

SORRY AKALA KO KASI BUHAY PA AT LIDER NG KULTONG ADD - ANG DUMADAKMA KAY DANNY (NABRAINLESS).

 
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Re: ano kinamatay ni judas

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March 24 2006, 3:08 PM 

[Anonymous (Login besobeso) Re: ano kinamatay ni judas
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hahahaha ikaw isa ka pa matino naman ang tanong ko inyo , tapos sabihin mo puro panlalait, kayo nga puro panlalait binabaliktad mo naman,,,hehehe isa ka pa dyan kunwari marami alam sa bible , bigay mo nalang ang sagot mo hindi ka lang puro dada dyan, kung alam sabihin mo lang sagot lang naman ang hinihintay ko sa inyo ,,,,,,,,,sino kaya ang manlalait sa atin ha????? ikaw nga sa photo mo palang na handle eheheheh nanlalait ka naehhhh,,,,,,wawawa ka naman hoy ;;;;;; kung alam mo sumgot ka lang sa tanong hehehehehehe ahahahaha
malaki lang ang kapilya nyo,,,,,bayad na ba?/??? sagot ka sa tanong ha?????????????????]


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March 24 2006, 4:43 PM 

SALAMAT SA SAGOT MO HA? I DO REAALY APPRICIATE IT, BUTI KA PA HINDI TULAD NG MGA KASAMA MO WALANG ALAM KUNDI PURO PANINIRA LANG , BAKA DUN LANG SILA MAGALING PERO AKO HANGA AKO SYO,,,,GANDA NG GINAWA MONG PAG RESEARCH,,,,,WAG MONG GAYAHIN YAN MGA KASAMAHAN MO DYAN SA FUROM,,,,,,CGE THANKS ULIT HA? PAG MAY TANONG AKO IKAW NALANG ANG SUMGOT HA? EH MGA WALANG ALAM NAMAN PALA YAN MGA IBA DYAN,,,,,HOYYYYY HOYYYY GAYAHIN MO SI TIDUS,,,,,,MABUHAY KA PRE...

 
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walang ano man

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March 24 2006, 5:22 PM 

Sa mga katanungan mo ay kung nasa biblia naman at kung abot ng aking makakaya ay sasagutin ko ng buong puso at pag iisip:)

 
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besobeso....kami ang naninira sa ADD??

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March 24 2006, 7:12 PM 

kayong mga ADD ang naninira sa mga INC...

dahil i-research mo lahat ng viedo at audio na ginawa ng religion mong kulto, 70% nun, paninira sa INC...wala kayong pagsamba sa diyos nyong may puwit na hindi binangit ang INC...

kaya wag mong sabihin na kami ang naninira..

isa pa...

si eliboy mismo ang sumisira sa kanya..

sya naman ang nagsasabi ng mga kontradiksyon nya eh..

tsaka...bakit walang mailabas na sagot sina magdaraog tsaka si baby tradora na sagot sa mga kontradiktion??

AKALA KO BA KAKANAIN AGAD..

HOY..BESO BESO....

YUNG LIDER MO...NAGKANDA "SUBO-SUBO" NA..

kung ano ano kasi isinusubo sa bibig eh...


 
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Re: ano kinamatay ni judas

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March 25 2006, 11:46 AM 

beso beso ano nga ba kinamatay ni hudas? sirit na ako kaya sumagot ka na sana ehehehhe

 
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Re: Ano ang ikinamatay ni Judas...

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March 25 2006, 12:10 PM 

Kahit sinong tao, maging anuman ang uri ang paraan ng kanilang pagpapakamatay o ikamamatay, hanggang hindi nalalagutan ng hininga ay hindi maituturing na patay.

Katulad ng panginoong Jesus ng nakapako sa krus ay binaggit na : "at siya'y nalagutan ng hininga" at itinuring na patay at namatay at inilibing...

HIndi mali na sabihin na ang ikinamatay ni Judas ay nalagutan ng hininga sapagkat ang paraan ng kanyang pagkamatay ay hindi tiyak at tukoy...

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Re: Ano ang ikinamatay ni Judas...

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March 25 2006, 12:24 PM 

Palagay ko hindi pa namamatay si Judas, kung patay na kasi yun paano makakapag-open ng thread na ito?

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