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January 18 2007 at 7:14 AM
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I HOPE YOU DON'T MIND ASKING YOU THIS, BUT PLEASE TELL US..

WHAT ARE YOU FIGHTING FOR?

--ATHRUN ZALA, JUSTICE GUNDAM PILOT





 
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Re: Tanong kay Sheriff_Atheist

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January 18 2007, 7:18 AM 

SA MGA NAIS DIN PONG MAGTANONG KAY MR. Sheriff_Atheist, PWEDE RIN PO NINYONG I-POST DITO.

--MU LA FLAGA, STRIKE GUNDAM PILOT





 
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January 18 2007, 7:47 AM 

Sheriff_Atheist,

BAKIT HINDI KA NANINIWALANG MAY DIYOS, AS YOUR LOGIN NAME IMPLIES?

--NICOL AMALFI, BLITZ GUNDAM PILOT


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January 18 2007, 10:52 AM 

sherif atheist, are you really an atheist? why? if you are an atheist, can you tell us where did the sun, air, stars, all living things,and all that is in the universe come from?

 
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January 18 2007, 11:32 AM 

The audience never play the act. That's the reason why they pay for the play. I am not into fight or something Sir.An actor and an actress are the ones who acts in a play, they memorize lines, emote and re enacts the play.I am not the actor, I am just observing the matter upon my perception.Okay, I am one of those audience. Now, the audience never ever parts in plays except if it a carnival show or a magic show, We are just here to observe and watch.
Sometimes, stupid questions beggets stupid answers.
But let me tell you this sir, upright and frankly, SIR, I AM NOT FIGHTING FOR ANYTHING, I AM GIVING A COMMENT. I am just exercising my rights as an audience. An audience which 2 religions of SCHISM created and plays. We all know everything must end right? But I am just wonderin when all of your stories end. It's dragging me completely already. Pls give conclusions my dear believers.

I hope somebody do comment likewise upon what I have stated on my previous page.

I hope I did answer your question correctly. If not, pls read this again:
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Just a reminder to all Christians and Evangelists:
Who are you all to wave your fingers? People are not stupid for this kinds of matters. Every

discussions held in between internet sites and forums are all lame. Neither do I provoke the

existence of it. But let me say, it is like hidding behind your Mother's pants. It is sad to

know how CHURCH became to be a negative acknowledgement of business politics.
I am very ashamed about how Iglesia ni Cristo by Felix Manalo and Iglesia ng Dios by Eli

Soriano has been going on right now.It irritates me.I guess I am not the only one. Let me

say to both members, DO A GOOD THING ABOUT HISTORY!! go on and pick up your phones. Stop

quarreling and parrying about a piece of small gem. Because for us, we think both of you

held to a conspiracy of war. Who do you think suffers more? Believers or Non-believers? Who

takes advantage? Who does not? Who benefits?
Therefore in Conclusion: STOP RUNNING AROUND THE BUSHES and finish the war you all created.
This a instinctively a WAR indeed. A war of religion, "HOLY WAR" let me say.
We have Studied the past and the history. We don't wan't it to happen again. NO more

bloodshed because of this stupid schism.
Why won't you both have a decent debate, in front of a crowd and even in TV or whatever just

as long you both talk at the same moment in history, now with a phone in all your mouth so

every people can hear.
Remember this, People are seekers of truth. And so we are waiting for Iglesia ni Cristo by

Manalo and Iglesia ng Dios by Eli Soriano for whoever there representatives would be to do

an OPEN DEBATE regarding their beliefs in the bible for us to know who we should really

believe. FORUMS, WEBSITES and BLOGS is not enough for this kind of war.
Go ahead and have a debate LIVE VIA SATELLITE around the globe. And after that we'll publish

that in magazines and media. If you think you are both good, let us come on and JOIN this

mass debate.
SO AGAIN, INC and ADD pls face each other and have a one on one or even a panel or whatever

to have an open DEBATE weekly to stop this war. YOu know why we should do this? because both

of you is already creating business out of it. Business is good but your kind of business is

mixed with bad politics.And if this war never ends, Non-believers will still be

non-believers. So in other words, THIS IS ALL USELESS if INC is non responsive between ADD's

call for a duel, a DEBATE once and for all.
If it really won't happen, I think ADD did not made their best, and INC remains LIMP. In

filipino dialect, MGA INUTIL all of you.
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SO WHO SHOULD WIN? IGLESIA NI CRISTO by Manalo or IGLESIA NG DIYOS by Eliseo Soriano?

We know we always have one HERO at the end of the play,right? Who wins? Who lose? Or is there another religion coming out explaining how the 3 dumplings fit in one rice box just like the Catholics believed,right?

 
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Re: Tanong kay Sheriff_Atheist

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January 18 2007, 11:47 AM 

bkit kayo alam nio kng saan nanggaling?

kaya nga may faith n tntwag. kaya nga mrming hirap pumili ng religion. kaya nga may nga atheist dahil kinekwestion nila ang ating pinanggalingan. they don't easily believe everything that their being told, just because everyone agrees. no one is really sure where everything came from. of course people can say that they have seen God, talked to them even. But it's all hearsay you know.

 
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January 18 2007, 12:50 PM 

I HAVE TO RESPECT YOUR OPINION, BUT STILL WE WOULD STILL CONTINUE FIGHTING FOR THE SALVATION OF OUR FELLOW PEOPLE (NON-INCs), WHETHER ANG DATING DAAN MEMBERS OR NOT.

AS FOR THE CATHOLICS THAT YOU HAVE MENTIONED, YES YOU'RE RIGHT. THE SO-CALLED HOLY TRINITY DOCTRINE (ONE GOD IN THREE PERSONS) IS INDEED A CONFUSING ONE.

IF YOU HAVE THE LUXURY OF TIME YOU CAN ATTEND OUR WORSHIP SERVICE NEAREST TO YOUR PLACE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY IF YOU DON'T WANNA TELL THEM THAT YOU'RE AN ATHEIST. JUST PRETEND THAT YOU'RE NOT. BUT IN ANY CASE YOU WILL SEE FOR YOURSELF THAT WHAT THE ADDs (AT LEAST ELI SORIANO AND HIS COHORTS) ACCUSE OF US (INC MEMBERS IN GENERAL ALLEGEDLY BEING MURDERERS) ISN'T REALLY TRUE AT ALL.

I HOPE YOU DON'T MIND TELLING YOU THIS, BUT I'M HOPING THAT YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN SUCH ACCUSSATION AGAINST US BY ADDs.

--MU LA FLAGA, STRIKE GUNDAM PILOT



 
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January 18 2007, 6:53 PM 

SUPERPWET SAID : bkit kayo alam nio kng saan nanggaling?


OO AKOY NILALANG NG DIYOS, SIGURADO AKO!!! E IKAW SAAN KA NANGGALING?

 
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January 22 2007, 2:17 PM 

hindi ko nga alam eh..pero hindi kc ako bsta bsta naniniwala s turo ng mga tao s paligid ko.. marunong akong magtanong.. hindi basta basta naniniwala s mga tinuturo lng saken..^_^

it's so easy to say that that u were created by God, but proving it isn't. may be u should prove it on the thread "may diyos b o wala" ni Kira.

 
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January 22 2007, 7:03 PM 

welcome nga po pala sayo kaibigan login: superpwet d2 sa forum. kung may mga katanungan po kayo ukol sa INC ay maari kayong magtungo sa pinakamalapit na kapilya ng Iglesia Ni Cristo. katulad nga ng sabi mo...
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"..pero hindi kc ako bsta bsta naniniwala s turo ng mga tao s paligid ko.. marunong akong magtanong.. hindi basta basta naniniwala s mga tinuturo lng saken..^_^"
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tama na wag kang maniwala kaagad sa mga turo...

tama na ikaw ay magtanong...

pero sana maging tama rin para sau na magsuri upang malaman mo ang katotohanan na hinahanap mo. subukan nyo pong magsuri sa INC. di po kayo pipilitin ditong maniwala agad dahil may sarili ka namang pagiisip para magpasya.













Ito ay sapagkat sa aking kalooban, ako ay lubos na nalulugod sa kautusan ng Diyos.(roma 7:22)

 
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January 23 2007, 9:48 AM 

SUPERPWET SAID: hindi ko nga alam eh..pero hindi kc ako bsta bsta naniniwala s turo ng mga tao s paligid ko.. marunong akong magtanong.. hindi basta basta naniniwala s mga tinuturo lng saken..^_^

ang sabi mo superpwet e hindi mo alam kung saan ka nanggaling at hindi ka basta naniniwala sa turo ng mga tao pero naitanong mo na ba sa sarili mo kung saan ka nanggaling? kung bakit nandito ka sa mundo? kung ano ba ang kaugnayan mo sa mga taong nakapaligid sa iyo na sabi moy hindi mo basta pinaniniwalaan? kung bakit sa dinamidami ng bagay o hayop sa mundo e ikaw lang ang may kakayahang magtanong, mag isip, magpasya?

ang masasabi ko kaibigan, lahat ng tao sa mundo na may kakayahang mag isip at magpasya e marunong magtanong PERO hindi lahat e marunong magsuri, ikaw nagsuri ka na ba?

 
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January 23 2007, 9:55 AM 

SUPERPWET SAID: hindi ko nga alam eh..pero hindi kc ako bsta bsta naniniwala s turo ng mga tao s paligid ko.. marunong akong magtanong.. hindi basta basta naniniwala s mga tinuturo lng saken..^_^

ang sabi mo superpwet e hindi mo alam kung saan ka nanggaling at hindi ka basta naniniwala sa turo ng mga tao pero naitanong mo na ba sa sarili mo kung saan ka nanggaling? kung bakit nandito ka sa mundo? kung ano ba ang kaugnayan mo sa mga taong nakapaligid sa iyo na sabi moy hindi mo basta pinaniniwalaan? kung bakit sa dinamidami ng bagay o hayop sa mundo e ikaw lang ang may kakayahang magtanong, mag isip, magpasya?

ang masasabi ko kaibigan, lahat ng tao sa mundo na may kakayahang mag isip at magpasya e marunong magtanong PERO hindi lahat e marunong magsuri, ikaw nagsuri ka na ba?

 
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January 23 2007, 6:20 PM 

salamat sa iyong pagtanggap Joman.. you guys can TRY to convert me, i'd appreciate it.

at para sa iyo ewankosaiyo, db sinabi kong pumunta ka nlang dun s thread nung debate ni sheriff at kira dahil same stuff nrin pinag uusapan tpos dumadami p thread. bago ka matutong magsuri, matuto ka muna sumunod sa instructions.

 
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January 24 2007, 8:13 AM 

hey superpwet its a debate between sheriff and kira kaya hayaan mo sila doon para di gumulo ang debate nila. and besides nandito sa thread na ito ang pinatutungkulan ko sa komento ko kaya nararapat lang na dito ko ipost ang comment ko, iisa isahin ko ha...

1. nandito sa thread na ito iyung tanong mong,"bakit kayo alam ninyo kung saan nanggaling?" kaya nagkomento ako dito sa thread ding ito.

2. then you posted your answer sa tanong kong "ikaw saan ka nanggaling?" dito sa thread ding ito, eto sagot mo..." hindi ko nga alam, pero hindi ako basta naniniwala... etc" kaya marapat lang na magkomento rin ako sa thread ding ito, tama ba?

hindi ako nakikipagdebate sa iyo kung may Diyos o wala, pero ang sabi ko ay magsuri ka. pangit kasing nandito ang mga postings mo sa thread na ito pero nagkokomento naman ako tungkol sa sinabi mo sa ibang thread, lalong magulo!

"LAHAT MARUNONG MAGTANONG, PERO HINDI LAHAT MARUNONG MAGSURI"


 
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January 24 2007, 11:00 AM 

alam mo,pareho nrin kasi ang patutunguhan ng thread na ito at sa debate ni kira at sheriff. hindi na nagpopost ung dlwa dun s thread n un kaya dun na nga lng tayo. ayoko nang dlwang thread tpos preho rin sasabihin ko.

at sa tanong mo kng marunong ako magsuri, eto ang sagot ko:

OO

 
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January 24 2007, 6:21 PM 

salamat login superpwet sa pagkilala mo sa aming paanyaya na magsuri ka sa INC. gusto ko na ring ipaabot sayo na walang sinumang kapatid dito ang makakapilit na iconvert ka sa aming pananamplataya malibang ang Dios mismo ang gumawa nito sayo. ikaw pa rin ang nagtitimbang sa katotohanang makikita mo o maririnig at ikaw rin ang magpapasya kung tama ba na ikaw ay umanib sa INC.






Ito ay sapagkat sa aking kalooban, ako ay lubos na nalulugod sa kautusan ng Diyos.(roma 7:22)

 
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Ang Dating Daan ni Eli Soriano

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1.Kontrahan ni Eliseo "Eli" Soriano laban sa kanyang mga myembro sa Ang Dating Daan at Kontrahan Myembro sa Ang Dating Daan laban sa Myembro sa Ang Dating Daan
Eliseo "Eli" Soriano VS Myembro sa Ang Dating Daan / Kaanib VS Kaanib (sa ADD)

2.Isyu sa Authorization at Pirma na Hamon ng Ang Dating Daan ni Eliseo "Eli" Soriano na Tinanggap ng Iglesia ni Cristo.
To Meigon (Isyu sa authorization at pirma) Matagal ng tinanggap ito ni Ka Ramil Parba...

3.Isyu tungkol sa pagpaparatang ng 'Ang Dating Daan' ni Eliseo "Eli" Soriano na Inatangan di' umano ng Iglesia Ni Cristo na Nanghambalos si Cristo.
"Mga ministro na inatangang nanghambalos ang panginoong Hesu-Kristo?" - Meigon

4.Iba't-ibang version na Salitang "Tarantado" ni Eliseo "Eli" Soriano ng Ang Dating Daan.
TARANTADO = Mura, HINDI mura, Atarantado, tarantar, nataranta (ANO BA TALAGA ANG TOTOO?)

5.Ang Paninira ni Eliseo "Eli" Soriano na Puno sa 'Ang Dating Daan' na Kinopya di' umano ng Iglesia Ni Cristo ang 'Banal na Halik.
Banal na Halik Kinopya sa Wyclife Bible Commentary (?)

6.Natupad daw di' umano ang Hula sa Zac. 13:8-9 sa 'Ang Dating Daan' ni Eliseo "Eli" Soriano.
ZACARIAS 13:8-9, HULA na natupad sa ANG DATING DAAN ni ELI SORIANO. Pag-usapan natin ito..

7.Ang nasabi ni Edchin na kaanib sa 'Ang Dating Daan' ni Eliseo "Eli" Soriano na Ire-renovate daw nila di' umano ang Kapilya ng Iglesia Ni Cristo. (bangag kaya itong si Edchin sa IHI 'nung sabihin niya ito?)
"Ang kapilya ng Iglesia Ni Cristo ay aming ire-renovate" - edchin (MINISTRO)

8.Isyu Patungkol sa Lecture ni ka Erdie na hindi Maunawaan ang diwa nito ni Eliseo "Eli" Soriano at maging ng kaanib niya sa 'Ang Dating Daan' na ngayon'y tinatawag ng 'Members Church of God International'.
"May punong pangkalahatan na gustong dagukan, bahain, tamaan ng kidlat..." - Meigon

9.Ang Nagkasalungatang Pahayag ni Eliseo "Eli" Soriano ng 'Ang Dating Daan' patungkol sa Isyung "Nagulat" si Thomas.
"He is not NAGULAT!" - Eliseo "Eli" Soriano (puno ng Ang Dating Daan)

10.Ini-Isyu ng 'Ang Dating Daan' ni Eliseo "Eli" Soriano na 'Mamamatay-tao' di' umano ang mga Iglesia Ni Cristo.
"mga mamatay tao kayo dyan kayo branded!!!" - PUGITA (kaanib sa 'Ang Dating Daan)

11.Kasagutan ni Meigon na kaanib sa 'Ang Dating Daan' ni Eliseo "Eli" Soriano patungkol sa 'Isyu ng Banal na Hapunan sa Ang Dating Daan'.
Sagot ko po regarding sa aming (Ang Dating Daan members) Banal na Hapunan

12.Isyu ng 'Ang Dating Daan' ni Eliseo "Eli" Soriano patungkol sa Stand ng Iglesia Ni Cristo na Anghel o Sugo ng Dios si ka Felix Manalo
Kaya naman po pala napagkamalian ng Iglesia Ni Cristo na anghel si Gno. Felix Manalo - Meigon

13.Ang Nakikita di' umano ni Meigon na kaanib sa 'Ang Dating Daan' ni Eliseo "Eli" Soriano na di' niya nakikita dati
Talaga bang gusto n'yong malaman ang nakikita ko ngayon na hindi ko nakikita dati? - Meigon

14.Ang Paanyaya ni Meigon na Kaanib sa 'Ang Dating Daan' ni Eliseo "Eli" Soriano sa lahat ng Iglesia Ni Cristo na nasa forum.
[To all Iglesia Ni Cristo here] Convince Me! - Meigon


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