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February 24 2007 at 5:02 PM
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ang rules natin kalabog

lahat ng tanong ay sasagutin.
bago magtanong ay dapat sagutin muna ang katanungan
bawal ang kasabihan ng matatanda
bawal ang mag base sa kanta
bawal gumamit ng libro ni satanas
bawal ang tumakbo

ang magiging batayan natin ay biblia.
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eto stand ko

sabi sa bible na mayroon batang ipapanganak at yung batang ipapanganak ay tatawagin Dios.

Isa 9:6 Sapagka't sa atin ay ipinanganak ang isang bata, sa atin ay ibinigay ang isang anak na lalake; at ang pamamahala ay maaatang sa kaniyang balikat: at ang kaniyang pangalan ay tatawaging Kamanghamangha, Tagapayo, Makapangyarihang Dios, Walang hanggang Ama, Pangulo ng Kapayapaan.

si Kristo ay ipinanganak at tinawag na Dios

Heb 1:8 Nguni't tungkol sa Anak ay sinasabi, Ang iyong luklukan, Oh Dios, ay magpakailan man; At ang setro ng katuwiran ay siyang setro ng iyong kaharian.

ngayon kung tutol ka ay sagutin mo yan mga verse na yan at ilabas mo kung sino yung batang tatawagin makapangyarihan Dios

take note ayon sa biblia at ang aking mga katanungan ay base din sa sagot mo.. kung bastos ka sumagot at bastos din ako sasagot

pero kung disente ka kausap ay disente din ako makikipag usap sayo

 
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Re: Kalabog VS gudkisserr

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February 24 2007, 5:10 PM 

Sasagutin ko lahat yan.

Sana kung magbibigay ka ng talata pakilagay kung anong Biblia yang ginagamit mo.


Sa bawat post mo na walang nakalagay na pangalan ng Biblia na ginamit eh hindi ito counted.

Sana malinaw ito sa iyo.


Please repost it.



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Gudkisser says: "ang nakasulat sa Mateo 16:18 na bato ay tinatawag din sa hebrew na petra at ang petra ay femenin din sa hebrew" ( X WRONG ANSWER )

Rock is tsuwr in Hebrew and not Petra
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February 24 2007, 5:15 PM 

sa una palang eh iba na ang takbo ng pakikipag usap mo... yan petra ay sinagot ko na sa kabila at kung gus2 mo mag react dyan eh sa kabila ka mag post....

pero pagbibigyan padin kita heheehehehe... mag stick ako sa topic..

yang naka post na verse dyan ay galing sa KJV.

ano sagot mo sa tanong ko?


 
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Re: King james

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February 24 2007, 5:20 PM 

I said repost your question and put your Bible refrence on each verse.

don'y be stubborn


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Gudkisser says: "ang nakasulat sa Mateo 16:18 na bato ay tinatawag din sa hebrew na petra at ang petra ay femenin din sa hebrew" ( X WRONG ANSWER )

Rock is tsuwr in Hebrew and not Petra
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request ni kalabog

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February 24 2007, 5:23 PM 

KJV yan pero naka limbag sa tagalog. ang nag limbag ay si poblete at yan salin ni poblete ay pinaka unang salin ng tagalog bible.

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

pwede kang gumamit ng salin ng bible na greek, hebrew para mas malapit sa katotohanan at bawal gumamit ng mga bible na gawa ng demonyo...

kung wala kang bible na greek at hebrew eh pwede mo i post yung verse na gus2 mo dahil meron ako at ipo post ko para sayo.

at ang ginagamit ko na tagalog version ay TAGALOG ANG BIBLIA at kay POBLETE di ako gumagamit ng salin ng Catholic dahil may mga iniba na mga pagkakasalin doon meaning nilikot ang biblia ng mga catholic na ayon sa inyo ay sa demonyo...

ano pa request mo?

 
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Re: request ni kalabog

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February 24 2007, 5:27 PM 

Poblete yan at di KJV bilang paglilinaw

Sa mga susunod na post mo ay hindi puede yang ganyan na KJV kuno eh Tagalog yang post mo.

Hintayin mo amg sagot ko. at bigyan natin ng isang araw bawat sagot sa tanong dahil hindi naman tayo full time nakaharap sa computer.

Pagsagot ko ay ako naman ang magtatanong.


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Gudkisser says: "ang nakasulat sa Mateo 16:18 na bato ay tinatawag din sa hebrew na petra at ang petra ay femenin din sa hebrew" ( X WRONG ANSWER )

Rock is tsuwr in Hebrew and not Petra
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daming request eh di naman pala sasagutin

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February 24 2007, 5:33 PM 

ang dami mo pa sinabi eh bukas mo pa pala sasagutin heehehehehe pero sige pagbibigyan kita pero ikaw ah dami mo request heheehehehehe....

tandaan mo ayaw ko ng mga commentary ng bible ah.. sagutin mo ako ayon sa biblia......

at tandaan mo hindi lahat ng request mo eh pagbibigyan ko at kaya lang kita pinagbibigyan ngayon dahil baka magdahilan ka upang tumakbo sa usapan natin.

cge bukas aantayin ko ang kasagutan mo na ayon sa biblia ha.

 
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Re: daming request eh di naman pala sasagutin

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February 24 2007, 6:07 PM 



    
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Re: daming request eh di naman pala sasagutin

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February 24 2007, 7:12 PM 

Isaiah 9:6


Isaiah 9:6 is another verse that is erroneously used by those who believe in the deity of Christ.

Their belief stems from the segment of the prophecy which says, "And His name will be called Woderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace."

However, we should understand that the term "Mighty God" was not mentioned as one of the names of the child but as part of the name which, in Hebrew, is read as Pele-joez-el-gibbor-Abi-ad-sar-shalom (Is. 9:6, Jewish Publications Society of America). The explanation in the footnote to this verse in the Jewish Publications Society of America states:

"That is, wonderful in Counsel is God the Mighty, the Everlasting Father, the Ruler of Peace."

Hence, Smith-Goodspeed Translation rendered this verse thus:

" 'For us a child is born to us, a son is given to us; And the government will be upon his shoulder; And his name will be called 'Wonderful counselor is God almighty, Father forever, Prince of Peace'."

If Christ were the Mighty God referred to in the verse, so many questions would be left unanswered: Is God a child? Was God ever born? Was God ever give? If the giver is also God, wouldn't that make two gods? Other verses on the Bible would then be contradicted. Numbers 23:19 says, "God is not a man ... Nor a son of man " (NKJV). Malachi 2:10 states, Have we not all one Father? Has not one God created us?(Ibid.). John 20:17 records the pronouncements of our Lord Jesus Christ thus: "... I am ascending to My Father and you Father, and to My God and your God" (Ibid.).

Where did the government or authority upon the child's shoulder (the child being referred to is Christ) come from? Was it innate in the child? Our Lord Jesus Christ Himself made this clarification: Matthew 28:18, Ibid.

The authority that christ has was given to Him. He said, "My Father has given me all things" (Mt. 11:27, Today's English Version).

There is no doubt that God was the source of Christ's authority. This authority that christ has is, therefore, God-given.







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Gudkisser says: "ang nakasulat sa Mateo 16:18 na bato ay tinatawag din sa hebrew na petra at ang petra ay femenin din sa hebrew" ( X WRONG ANSWER )

Rock is tsuwr in Hebrew and not Petra
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Re: daming request eh di naman pala sasagutin

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February 24 2007, 7:22 PM 

Hebrews 1:8

In the the Revised Standard Version it say's:
"But of the Son he says, 'Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever, the righteous scepter is the scepter of thy kingdom.' "

By admitting that God is calling His Son as "O God" in Hebrews 1:8, it appears that God contradicts Himself! He said in Isaiah 46:9 that He does not know any other God. However There is another rendition that Christ is God advocates hide everytime they use this verse as their alleged proof.

But others are frank enough to indicate it in the footnote of the RSV we quoted above it writes "GOD IS YOUR THRONE" exactly how it was rendered in the Old Testament where it was quoted in Psalms 45:6 of the Jewish Publication Society version of 1917.

The truth is that the term O THEOS is not found in the Hebrew Bible also called the Masoretic Text. The O THEOS was taken from the Septuagint, a Greek translation of the Old Testament Even there, according to B.F. wescott
"The LXX admits of two renderings: ho theos can be taken as a vocative in both cases (_Thy throne, O God,... therefore, O God, Thy God..._) or it can be taken as the subject (or the predicate) in the first case (_God is Thy throne,_ or _Thy throne is God..._), or in apposition to ho theos sou in the second case (_Therefore God, even Thy God..._)..."("The Epistle to the Hebrews," London, 1892, pp. 25)

In the Hebrew Bible, God is the throne of the Son which is a metaphor indicating that God is the source of the Son's throne or power. Jesus confirmed that in Matthew 28:18 when he proclaimed that "all power in heaven and on earth was given to me" and in Matthew 11:27, he said that "all things were given to him by the Father!" The source of his power and authority is God and on Judgment Day, the Son will be placed under God's rule (I Cor. 15:27-28 TEV).

Why will the Son be placed under God if he is of the same power with the Father? That is an intriguing question that Trinitarians could not explain but would only resort to hide behind the so-called mystery doctrine of the Divine Trinity.

MANY ATTEMPT TO prove that Christ is God by using verses in the Bible. One such verse they claim to be teaching about the deity of Christ is Hebews 1:8: "But to the Son He says: `Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your Kingdom`."(NKJV) Proponent's of Christ alleged diety argue that in this verse, God the Father is calling His Son God. But if this were true, then there would be two Gods-a conclusion that contradicts biblical verses which teach that there is only one true God, the Father (Jn.17:1-3; ICor.8:6; Mal.2:10). Therefore, there is something wrong about their understanding of this verse.
The following are other translations of this same verse:

"But of the Son he says, `God is your throne forever and ever! And a righteous sceptre is the sceptre of his kingdom!`" (Goodspeed)
"He says of the Son, `God is thy throne for ever and ever, thy royal sceptre is the sceptre of equity`." (Moffat Translation)
In the Goodspeed and Moffat translations, God the Father is not calling the Son God. Rather, God is telling the Son (Christ) that He (Father) is His (Son's) throne. Thus, these two translations of Hebrews 1:8 do not contradict other passages of the Bible and hence, these translations of Hebrws 1:8 are correct. God does not recognize any other God
Why is it wrong to believe that the Father called Christ God in Hebrews 1:8? This is because God does not recognize any other God:

"Consult together, argue your case, and state your proofs that idol worship pays. Who made these things known long ago? What idol ever told you they would happen? Was it not I, the LORD? For there is no other God but me-a just God and Savior-no, not one!" (Is. 45:21, NLT, emphasis ours) God Himself teaches that there is no onther God besides Him. This one God who does not recignize any other God is the Father who created everything: "Have we not all one Father? Has not one God created us?" (Mal. 2:10, NKJV) Not only does God not recognize any other God, but he declared His uniqueness, proclaiming there is none like Him:
"Remember the former things of old, For I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like me." (Is. 46:9,ibid.)
In fact, the next verse, Hebrews 1:9, in reference to Christ, clearly shows that Christ the Son recognizes God:
"You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; therefore God, Your God, has anointed You with the oil of gladness more than Your companions." (Ibid., emphasis ours)
Take note of the phrase "Your God." If the Son or Christ were God, it would appear that God has a God, ang thus, there would be two Gods.
While the father recognizes no one else as God, Christ recognizes the father as His God:
"Jesus said to her, `Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My father; but go to My Brethren and say to them, "I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God"." (Jn.20:17, Ibid.)
`Thy throne, given of God`
Defenders of Christ's alleged deity further argue that the Almighty God cannot be merely a throne. So they ask, "How could the understanding that God is the throne of Christ be correct?" We should know that Hebrwes 1:8 is a prophecy about the coming Messiah in the form of a song quoted from psalms 45:7 which states:

"Thy throne, given of God, endureth for ever and ever; the sce
ptre of thy kingdom." (Jewish Publications Society of America Translation) Therefore, the equivalent of "God is your throne" is "Thy throne, given of God." The following verses clarify that the One to whom God will give His kingdom is the King:

"Beautiful words fill my mind, as I compose this song for the king. Like the pen of a good writer my tongue is ready with a poem. You are the most handsome of men; you are an eloquent speaker. God has always blessed you. Buckle on your sword, mighty king; you are glorious and majestic." (Ps. 45:1-3, TEV)
The fulfillment of this prophecy is Christ who was given the throne of David:
"You will become pregnant and give birth to a son, and you will name him Jesus. He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High God. The Lord God will make him a king, as his ancestor David was, and he will be the king of the descendants of Jacob forever; his kingdom will never end!" (Lk. 1:31-33, Ibid)
In fact, Christ never taught that the authority or power He had was inherent in Him:

"Jesus drew near and said to them, "have been given all authority in heaven and on earth'."(Mt. 28:18, Ibid)
Instead , He acknowlegded the Father as the source os His authority:

"My Father has given to me authority over everything." (Mt. 11:27, NLT)
It is this God-given authority that Christ will hand over to God on the Day of Judgement:

"Then the end will come; Christ will overcome all spiritual rulers, authorities, and powers, and will hand over the Kingdom to God the Father. For christ must rule until God defeats all enemies and puts them under his feet. ...For the scriptures says, `God put all things under his feet'. It is clear, of course, that the words `all things` do not include God himself, who puts all things under Christ. But when all things have been placed under Christ's rule, then he himself, the Son, will place himself under God will rule completely over all." (I Cor. 15:24-25, 27_28, TEV)
Notice that Christ will place Himself under God so that God will rule completely over all. If Christ were God, it would appear that God is placing Himself under Himself-an absurdity.
Christ is man
While God's throne was given to Christ, this does not mean that God Himself is placed under Christ as the above verses attest. In fact, Christ sits at the right side of God's throne according to the same author of Hebrews 1:8:

"What I mean is that we have a high priest who sits at the right side of God's great throne in heaven." (Heb. 8:1, CEV)
The High Priest reffered to is Christ:
"That is why we have a great High Priest who has gone to heaven, Jesus the Son of God." (Heb. 4:14, NLT)
The High Priest who sits at the right side of God's throne is man in state of being:

"Here is the High Priest we need. A man who is holy, faultless, unstained, seperate from sinners and lifted above the very Heavens." (Heb. 7:26, Philips Translation)
"But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood." (Heb. 7:24, KJV)
Since Christ is man, then He is different from God because God is not man: "I will not execute the fierceness of My anger; I will not again destroy Ephraim. For I am God, and not man, The Holy One in your midst; And I will not come with terror." (Hos. 11:9, NKJV)
Hence, Christ, the High Priest sitting at the right of God's throne, is man and not God. Therefore, Hebrews 1:8 does not teach that Christ is God. Instead, it all the more proves the great difference between God and Christ


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Gudkisser says: "ang nakasulat sa Mateo 16:18 na bato ay tinatawag din sa hebrew na petra at ang petra ay femenin din sa hebrew" ( X WRONG ANSWER )

Rock is tsuwr in Hebrew and not Petra
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Re: daming request eh di naman pala sasagutin

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February 24 2007, 7:24 PM 

Sinagot ko na ang tanong mo kaya ako naman ang magtatanong.

Hintayin mo ang tanong ko at huwag ka munag magpost.








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Gudkisser says: "ang nakasulat sa Mateo 16:18 na bato ay tinatawag din sa hebrew na petra at ang petra ay femenin din sa hebrew" ( X WRONG ANSWER )

Rock is tsuwr in Hebrew and not Petra
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Re: daming request eh di naman pala sasagutin

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February 24 2007, 8:09 PM 

diba pinost ko kanina eto:

Hahaha magrerearch pa si Kalabog... ALIBAY NANAMAN, huwag mo ring kalimutang sagutin yung pinost ni addorable, so baka sa lunes ka pa makakasagot nyan kalabog. hahaha


bakit bigla atang nawawala ang mga post na parang bula... it turns out tuloy na si gudkisser ang magpapabukas ng sagot...
MGA INC TALAGA MAHILIG MAGMANGLE.... YAN ANG TURO NG DEMONYONG FELIX MANALO AND FAMILY... TRADEMARK


ANYWAY... TAPOS NA ATA ANG PAGRERESEARCH NI KALABOG... SAN MO BA PINAGPUPULL-UP YUNG MGA READYMADE NA SINAGOT MO KALABOG... HAHHAHAHA... MADUGUDUGONG COPYPASTE ANG GINUGOL NITO.HAHAHAHA..

DI NAMAN ME NAKIKIALAM E.. HUWAG NYO IDELETE MGA COMMENTS NG HINDI KAPANALIG NG PANANAMAMPALATAYA NYO. ang pangit nyo talaga makipaglaro.

TO GUDKISSER:

TIMESTAMPED KO LAHAT NG MGA REPLYS SA THREAD NA ITO... ISASALPAK KO SA PAGMUMUKA NILA KUNG MERON MAN MABABAGO SA FLOW NG THREAD NA TO... GUDNIGHT

 
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Re: daming request eh di naman pala sasagutin

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February 24 2007, 8:34 PM 

AKA Moccachinodelight,

may kabastusan ka kasi.

di ka ba marunong ng etika? Yung thread kasi nito eh "Kalabog vs Gudkisser"


Dito ka magpost ng komento mong walang sense sa thread na ito.
Comments Kalabog vs Gudkisser
http://www.network54.com/Forum/261121/thread/1172312212/last-1172312522/Comments+Kalabog+vs+Gudkisser


At puede ba kitang-kita na papalit-palit ka login name, umayos ka.


Kung gusto mo akong makausap tungkol sa pananampalataya magbukas ka ng thread para sa ating dalawa.








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addako: "kami sa ADD ke isang bibliya lang o ke marami...kaya naming patunayan ang aming paniniwala"

Totoo kaya itong pagyayabang ni addako? Mas mabuting ang puno na nilang si Eli Soriano ang magpatunay kung totoo nga itong ipinagyayabang ni addako...

basa!

Eliseo "Eli" Soriano: "Nababasa ba? Mga kaanib sa Iglesia...nababasa sa 'Magandang Balita Biblia' pa nga nababasa 'yon eh, 'don sa salin ng Protestante at Katoliko...mga kaanib sa Iglesia ng Dios"
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Re: daming request eh di naman pala sasagutin

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February 24 2007, 8:52 PM 

John 5:37-44 NASB

And the Father who sent Me, He has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His form. You do not have His word abiding in you, for you do not believe Him whom He sent. Witness of the Scripture
You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me; and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life. I do not receive glory from men; but I know you, that you do not have the love of God in yourselves. "I have come in My Father's name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, you will receive him. "How can you believe, when you receive glory from one another and you do not seek the glory that is from the one and only God?



Now Gudkisser answer this according to this verse.

Our Lord Jesus Christ testifies that there is "the one and only God " which is the Father and the one and only God was according to our Lord Jesus Christ was You have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His form.



John 17:1-3 NASB

Jesus spoke these things; and lifting up His eyes to heaven, He said, "Father, the hour has come; glorify Your Son, that the Son may glorify You, even as You gave Him authority over all flesh, that to all whom You have given Him, He may give eternal life. "This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.

In this passage, Jesus indicates quite clearly that his Father is "the only true God." I can sense that Gudkisser would resort to blinding techniques and will answer as "What" rather than "Who" is the only one true God. Watch out how Gudkisser will answer like magic referring to "WHAT" rather than "WHO"




Question: Gudkisser don't you believe what Our Lord Jesus Christ has explicitly explained? If you disagree with our Lord Jesus Christ it would only mean you do not trust his words. Jesus declares "for you do not believe Him whom He sent"






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addako: "kami sa ADD ke isang bibliya lang o ke marami...kaya naming patunayan ang aming paniniwala"

Totoo kaya itong pagyayabang ni addako? Mas mabuting ang puno na nilang si Eli Soriano ang magpatunay kung totoo nga itong ipinagyayabang ni addako...

basa!

Eliseo "Eli" Soriano: "Nababasa ba? Mga kaanib sa Iglesia...nababasa sa 'Magandang Balita Biblia' pa nga nababasa 'yon eh, 'don sa salin ng Protestante at Katoliko...mga kaanib sa Iglesia ng Dios"
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kalabog

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February 25 2007, 1:43 PM 

kalabog ang haba ng post mo heheehehe kung babasahin ko lahat ito eh dina ako makakapag trabaho pero okey lang para mailatag mo ang buong pananampalataya mo...

antayin mo lang yung sagot ko ay ipi print ko muna itong sagot mo para basahin ko mamayang breaktime...

advance kayo ng 4 hours dyan sa pinas kaya sensya na at ngayon lang ako naka online... mamaya ko na sasagutin yan mga tanong mo at babasahin ko muna ang sagot mo... unahin ko lang sagutin si migs saka yung isang kapatid mo na si Mic.

tnx

 
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another thread

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February 25 2007, 3:34 PM 

kalabog gagawan ko ng thread kung saan ka magtatanong sakin para hindi mahalo yung sagot mo sa sagot ko... sa kapakanan natin dalawa ito salamat.

kalabog question to gudkisserr

yan ang title salamat

 
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Re: another thread

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February 25 2007, 5:06 PM 

Sinabi mo na hindi pangalan yung Dios sa talata at sinabi mo pa na ito ay parte ng pangalan. Mukha atang nawala ka sa grammar kapatid. Maliwanag ang sabi sa talata na "And His name will be called. Meaning ang pangalan ay tatawagin... ano ang itatawag? Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Hindi naman isang pangalan yan para sabihin mo na parte ng pangalan yan makapangyarihan dios.

at ayon din sa pinagbatayan mo ay ang footnote ng jewish publication society. Nabasa mo ba yung rules kapatid? Hindi ako tinatangap ang footnote huwag kang gagamit ng commentary at footnote dahil hindi ako tumatangap nyan. Saka bakit paliwanag ng ibang tao ang kinukuha nyo? Wala ba kayong sariling paliwanag? Pinupulot ninyo ang paliwanag ng iba

at sa greek ay maliwanag din ang pagkaka translate kaya kung papapiliin mo ako ay sa greek ako mag base ng faith ko compare kay godspeed mo.

At ang godspeed translation ay 1931 lang lumabas meaning bagong translation lang yan at 1931 pababa ay wala pa kayong batayan kaya maliwanag na pinulot lang ninyo ang haka haka ng ibang tao...

Ang gamit ko ay greek at ang pagkakasulat sa greek ay pareho ng kjv translation. Pwede ko I request sakin yung greek kung gus2 mo.

Uulitin ko hindi ako tatangap ng footnote at sabi ko sa itaas ay bible ang babatayan natin at ang sinoman lumabag ay nangangahulugan ng pagkatalo...

Ginamitan mo na ako ng footnote pero palulusutin ko yan kasi baka hindi mo lang nabasa yung rules natin¡K. Pero noted yan footnote mo.

Kalabog said
Hebrew 1:8
But others are frank enough to indicate it in the footnote of the RSV we quoted above it writes "GOD IS YOUR THRONE" exactly how it was rendered in the Old Testament where it was quoted in Psalms 45:6 of the Jewish Publication Society version of 1917.

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Kapatid pangalawang beses kana gumamit ng footnote uulitin ko sa rules natin ay biblia at ang footnote ay hindi kasama sa biblia, inilagay lang yan ng translator ayon sa haka haka nila.

Maraming mali sa footnote baka hindi mo alam. Pwede mo I request sakin kung bakit ko sinabi na may mga maling pakahulugan sa footnote kung gus2 mo.

At ayon din sa paniniwala ninyo na ang tinutukoy na Dios sa Heb 1:8 ay ang Throne tama ba ako?

Sabi mo din ay eto
The truth is that the term O THEOS is not found in the Hebrew Bible also called the Masoretic Text.

Gudkisserr said
Kung maipakita ko ba sayo na ang salitang theos ay matatagpuan sa Hebrew sa talatang heb 1:8 ay aaminin mo ba na mali ang paniniwala mo? I caps ko ang heb 1:8 English at Hebrew para sa ikakaliwanag mo kung tatangapin mo ang hamon ko.

Kalabog said
In the Hebrew Bible, God is the throne of the Son which is a metaphor indicating that God is the source of the Son's throne or power.

Gudkisserr said
Ayon sayo sa salin ng Hebrew ay nakasulat na God is the Throne ngayon ipakita mo sakin na iyan nga ang pagkakasulat sa Hebrew. Ibigay mo ang link d2 sa internet o gawan mo ng caps at I compare natin d2 sa Hebrew ko.

Uulitin ko ang aking mga katanungan

1. Ang paniniwala ba ninyo ay ang tinatawag na Dios ay ang luklukan?

2. Sabi mo din ay eto
The truth is that the term O THEOS is not found in the Hebrew Bible also called the Masoretic Text.

Kung mabasa ko ba sa Hebrew ay tinatawag din theos eh aaminin mo ban a mali ang sinabi mo na walang theos sa Hebrew bible?

3. Ayon sayo sa salin ng Hebrew ay nakasulat na God is the Throne ngayon ipakita mo sakin nay an nga ang pagkakasulat sa Hebrew. Ibigay mo ang link d2 sa internet o gawan mo ng caps at I compare natin d2 sa Hebrew ko.

Uulitin ko kapatid bible ang batayan ay hindi footnote, commentary at bible ni satanas at kasabihan ng matatanda at kanta

2 beses ka gumamit ng footnote don¡¦t break the rules dahil ang rules ay biblia ang babatayan

Tnx

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Saka yung kasagutan nya eh halatang galling pasugo heheheehehehe pero oks lang yan kse pag tinanong ko yan ng labas sa pasugo eh kikisay nalang bigla yan heheheehehe joke muahh kalabog „²- beso beso


 
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Sinabi mo na hindi pangalan yung Dios sa talata at sinabi mo pa na ito ay parte ng pangalan. Mukha atang nawala ka sa grammar kapatid. Maliwanag ang sabi sa talata na "And His name will be called. Meaning ang pangalan ay tatawagin... ano ang itatawag? Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Hindi naman isang pangalan yan para sabihin mo na parte ng pangalan yan makapangyarihan dios.

at ayon din sa pinagbatayan mo ay ang footnote ng jewish publication society. Nabasa mo ba yung rules kapatid? Hindi ako tinatangap ang footnote huwag kang gagamit ng commentary at footnote dahil hindi ako tumatangap nyan. Saka bakit paliwanag ng ibang tao ang kinukuha nyo? Wala ba kayong sariling paliwanag? Pinupulot ninyo ang paliwanag ng iba

at sa greek ay maliwanag din ang pagkaka translate kaya kung papapiliin mo ako ay sa greek ako mag base ng faith ko compare kay godspeed mo.

At ang godspeed translation ay 1931 lang lumabas meaning bagong translation lang yan at 1931 pababa ay wala pa kayong batayan kaya maliwanag na pinulot lang ninyo ang haka haka ng ibang tao...

Ang gamit ko ay greek at ang pagkakasulat sa greek ay pareho ng kjv translation. Pwede ko I request sakin yung greek kung gus2 mo.

Uulitin ko hindi ako tatangap ng footnote at sabi ko sa itaas ay bible ang babatayan natin at ang sinoman lumabag ay nangangahulugan ng pagkatalo...

Ginamitan mo na ako ng footnote pero palulusutin ko yan kasi baka hindi mo lang nabasa yung rules natin¡K. Pero noted yan footnote mo.



First of all, your rules does not say that I can not use Bible footnote. Secondly, Bible footnotes are still part of the translation of the author who publish the said Bible.

Here's the verse in Jewish Publication Society (Take note it is not a footnote).

" Jewish Study Bible (JPS) Tanakh

For a child has been born to us, a son has been given us. And authority has settled on his shoulders. He has been named “The Mighty God is planning grace; The Eternal Father, a peaceable ruler”—"



In the Talmud the verse is translated as follows: "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty, Judge, Everlasting, Father, Prince, and Peace. [Sanhedrin 94a]. Obviously this is an authentic Jewish translation.

Therefore, gudkisser will never say that this is just year 19xx as his usual escape route.

Look how Gudkisser twist his mind: "Sinabi mo na hindi pangalan yung Dios sa talata at sinabi mo pa na ito ay parte ng pangalan. Mukha atang nawala ka sa grammar kapatid. Maliwanag ang sabi sa talata na "And His name will be called. Meaning ang pangalan ay tatawagin... ano ang itatawag? Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Hindi naman isang pangalan yan para sabihin mo na parte ng pangalan yan makapangyarihan dios."

If Gudkisser assertion was true then there would be more than many Mighty God.

1. Ezekiel means "Strong God". It also means "Yahweh is Strong God".
2. Elijah. This name is short for EliJehovah or "Eli Yahweh". Eli means my GOD, and Yahweh is the name and title of GOD Almighty in the Bible. Does "Eli Yahweh" or Elijah mean that the person is God Himself?
3. Gabriel also means "Strong God".
4. Isaiah or Jesaiah, which is short for "Jesa Yahweh" means "Salvation from Yahweh". It could also mean "Salvation".
5. Elihu means "My God is He".
6. Gedaliah means "Jehovah is Great". Again, Gedaliah is short for "Gedal Yahweh". Is the person who was called "Jehovah is Great" GOD Almighty Himself? People before and after Jesus are given this name. See 2 Kings 25:22-24.
7. Eliadah or Eliada means "God knows".
8. Michael means "who is like God". Yet, non is like Him, the Almighty. See Exodus 8:10.

Therefore, Gudkisser assertion in invalidated.






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addako: "kami sa ADD ke isang bibliya lang o ke marami...kaya naming patunayan ang aming paniniwala"

Totoo kaya itong pagyayabang ni addako? Mas mabuting ang puno na nilang si Eli Soriano ang magpatunay kung totoo nga itong ipinagyayabang ni addako...

basa!

Eliseo "Eli" Soriano: "Nababasa ba? Mga kaanib sa Iglesia...nababasa sa 'Magandang Balita Biblia' pa nga nababasa 'yon eh, 'don sa salin ng Protestante at Katoliko...mga kaanib sa Iglesia ng Dios"
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Bukas ko na sasagutin yung iba. It's already 2:20 AM here, medyo pa-umaga na. May tinatapos pa kong trabaho. Wait for my other reply about Hebrews 1:8. In the meantime you can answer my question on Isaiah 9:6.






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addako: "kami sa ADD ke isang bibliya lang o ke marami...kaya naming patunayan ang aming paniniwala"

Totoo kaya itong pagyayabang ni addako? Mas mabuting ang puno na nilang si Eli Soriano ang magpatunay kung totoo nga itong ipinagyayabang ni addako...

basa!

Eliseo "Eli" Soriano: "Nababasa ba? Mga kaanib sa Iglesia...nababasa sa 'Magandang Balita Biblia' pa nga nababasa 'yon eh, 'don sa salin ng Protestante at Katoliko...mga kaanib sa Iglesia ng Dios"
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Kalabog said
Hebrew 1:8
But others are frank enough to indicate it in the footnote of the RSV we quoted above it writes "GOD IS YOUR THRONE" exactly how it was rendered in the Old Testament where it was quoted in Psalms 45:6 of the Jewish Publication Society version of 1917.

Gudkisserr said
Kapatid pangalawang beses kana gumamit ng footnote uulitin ko sa rules natin ay biblia at ang footnote ay hindi kasama sa biblia, inilagay lang yan ng translator ayon sa haka haka nila.

Maraming mali sa footnote baka hindi mo alam. Pwede mo I request sakin kung bakit ko sinabi na may mga maling pakahulugan sa footnote kung gus2 mo.



Your assumption that "all footnote" are "haka-haka" is definitely improper. At saan naman galing yung mga salita o words na nasa verses na sinulat ng translators haka-haka din ba? Kung may ilang mali sa footnote ay hindi ibig sabihin na mali na lahat ng footnote. Footnote ay bahagi pa rin ng kaisipan ng nagsalin.



At ayon din sa paniniwala ninyo na ang tinutukoy na Dios sa Heb 1:8 ay ang Throne tama ba ako?

Sagot: MALI!!! Di ka kasi nagbabasa!

Eto post ko uli:

In the Hebrew Bible, God is the throne of the Son which is a metaphor indicating that God is the source of the Son's throne or power. Jesus confirmed that in Matthew 28:18 when he proclaimed that "all power in heaven and on earth was given to me" and in Matthew 11:27, he said that "all things were given to him by the Father!" The source of his power and authority is God and on Judgment Day, the Son will be placed under God's rule (I Cor. 15:27-28 TEV).


1. Question: Why will the Son be placed under God if he is of the same power with the Father? Please answer this.



Sabi mo din ay eto
The truth is that the term O THEOS is not found in the Hebrew Bible also called the Masoretic Text.

Gudkisserr said
Kung maipakita ko ba sayo na ang salitang theos ay matatagpuan sa Hebrew sa talatang heb 1:8 ay aaminin mo ba na mali ang paniniwala mo? I caps ko ang heb 1:8 English at Hebrew para sa ikakaliwanag mo kung tatangapin mo ang hamon ko.



Ops...Mahilig ka kasing magputol ng posting ko eh. Baka naman bandang huli ay ikaw ang umamin na nagkamali ka na naman

Sige ipakita mo ang terminong THEOS sa Hebrew Bible. Kailangan mababasa natin na THEOS yan in correct pronounciation.

FYI again, THEOS is a Greek word and therefore you can not read it in Hebrew language.


2. NOW POST YOUR THEOS IN HEBREW BIBLE Pag wala kang mai-post aaminin mong mali ang paniniwala mo!


Kalabog said
In the Hebrew Bible, God is the throne of the Son which is a metaphor indicating that God is the source of the Son's throne or power.

Gudkisserr said
Ayon sayo sa salin ng Hebrew ay nakasulat na God is the Throne ngayon ipakita mo sakin na iyan nga ang pagkakasulat sa Hebrew. Ibigay mo ang link d2 sa internet o gawan mo ng caps at I compare natin d2 sa Hebrew ko.



"How could the understanding that God is the throne of Christ be correct?" We should know that Hebrwes 1:8 is a prophecy about the coming Messiah in the form of a song quoted from psalms 45:7-8 which states:

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt2645.htm
כִּסְאֲךָ אֱלֹהִים, עוֹלָם וָעֶד; שֵׁבֶט מִישֹׁר, שֵׁבֶט
Thy throne given of God is for ever and ever; a sceptre of equity is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
מַלְכוּתֶךָ.
equity is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
אָהַבְתָּ צֶּדֶק, וַתִּשְׂנָא-רֶשַׁע:
Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated wickedness; {N}
עַל-כֵּן מְשָׁחֲךָ אֱלֹהִים אֱלֹהֶיךָ, שֶׁמֶן שָׂשׂוֹן-- מֵחֲבֵרֶךָ.
therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.


3 .NOW POST YOUR REFERENCE


Uulitin ko ang aking mga katanungan

1. Ang paniniwala ba ninyo ay ang tinatawag na Dios ay ang luklukan?

2. Sabi mo din ay eto
The truth is that the term O THEOS is not found in the Hebrew Bible also called the Masoretic Text.

Kung mabasa ko ba sa Hebrew ay tinatawag din theos eh aaminin mo ban a mali ang sinabi mo na walang theos sa Hebrew bible?

3. Ayon sayo sa salin ng Hebrew ay nakasulat na God is the Throne ngayon ipakita mo sakin nay an nga ang pagkakasulat sa Hebrew. Ibigay mo ang link d2 sa internet o gawan mo ng caps at I compare natin d2 sa Hebrew ko.

Uulitin ko kapatid bible ang batayan ay hindi footnote, commentary at bible ni satanas at kasabihan ng matatanda at kanta

2 beses ka gumamit ng footnote don¡¦t break the rules dahil ang rules ay biblia ang babatayan

Tnx



Di mo na kailangang ulitin dahil sinagot ko lahat yan sa itaas punto por punto hindi kagaya mo mo china-chop-chop mo ang tanong ko kaya inililihis mo ang sagot mo ayon sa original na tanong ko.




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Saka salamat sa kapatid na nag paalala sakin na dinodoktor ang mga posting d2 eh hayaan mo kapatid naka save lahat ng sagot ko at kung binago nya eh talunan sya ibig sabihin nun

Saka yung kasagutan nya eh halatang galling pasugo heheheehehehe pero oks lang yan kse pag tinanong ko yan ng labas sa pasugo eh kikisay nalang bigla yan heheheehehe joke muahh kalabog „²- beso beso



Hindi dinoktor ang posting dito, kundi binura ang post ni Moccachinodelight AKA ADDorable dahil walang kinalaman ang kanyang post sa thread na ito. YUN LANG.

Turuan mo ng tamang asal si ADDorable AKA Moccachinodlight para maging maayos ang usapan dito.


Lastly, I need answer for the
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addako: "kami sa ADD ke isang bibliya lang o ke marami...kaya naming patunayan ang aming paniniwala"

Totoo kaya itong pagyayabang ni addako? Mas mabuting ang puno na nilang si Eli Soriano ang magpatunay kung totoo nga itong ipinagyayabang ni addako...

basa!

Eliseo "Eli" Soriano: "Nababasa ba? Mga kaanib sa Iglesia...nababasa sa 'Magandang Balita Biblia' pa nga nababasa 'yon eh, 'don sa salin ng Protestante at Katoliko...mga kaanib sa Iglesia ng Dios"
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walang mababasa na theos sa hebrew toinkkk!!!

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kalabog said
First of all, your rules does not say that I can not use Bible footnote. Secondly, Bible footnotes are still part of the translation of the author who publish the said Bible.

gudkisserr said
ang rules ay eto
1lahat ng tanong ay sasagutin.
2bago magtanong ay dapat sagutin muna ang katanungan
3bawal ang kasabihan ng matatanda
4bawal ang mag base sa kanta
5bawal gumamit ng libro ni satanas
6bawal ang tumakbo

7ang magiging batayan natin ay biblia. <--- basa mo ba ito? at ayon sayo ang footnote ay bahagi ng kaisipan ng nagsalin meaning pag galing sa kaisipan ng nagsalin ay hind ito bahagi ng original na sulat ng mga apostol kaya yung paniniwala mo sa footnote eh wagmo isama d2 sa usapan natin at dalawang beses ka gumamit ng footnote noted yan heheheehehe

kalabog said
Your assumption that "all footnote" are "haka-haka" is definitely improper. At saan naman galing yung mga salita o words na nasa verses na sinulat ng translators haka-haka din ba?

gudkisserr said
yung verse hindi haka haka yun pero yung pagbibigay ng ibang kahulugan sa nakasulat ay haka haka yun ng gumawa ng footnote

kalabog said
Kung may ilang mali sa footnote ay hindi ibig sabihin na mali na lahat ng footnote. Footnote ay bahagi pa rin ng kaisipan ng nagsalin.

gudkisserr said
ayun nadin sayo na may ilan mali sa foornote at yung mali na yun ang ginamit mo heheehehehe kaya wag kang gagamit ng footnote kasi ayon sayo ay may mali at ayaw ko bumatay sa may mali gets mo? hindi ko assumption ng sabihin ko na ang footnote ay hakahaka bakit nun bang nag sulat ang mga apostol ng biblia ay may footnote ba? heheheheehe

at ayon na din sayo na mayroon ibag mali sa footnote meaning haka haka nga ng translator yan dahil ang mga apostol ay hindi gumagamit ng footnote... yan footnote ay inilagay ng translator ayon sa pagkakaalam nila gets mo?

ayon din sayo na ang footnote ay bahagi ng kaisipan ng nagsalin at di ako tumatangap ng bahagi ng isip ng translator heheheehehehe compose mo sarili mo at ibinabaon ka ng sarili mong salita

gudkisserr question
At ayon din sa paniniwala ninyo na ang tinutukoy na Dios sa Heb 1:8 ay ang Throne tama ba ako?

kalabog said
Sagot: MALI!!! Di ka kasi nagbabasa!

Eto post ko uli:

In the Hebrew Bible, God is the throne of the Son which is a metaphor indicating that God is the source of the Son's throne or power. Jesus confirmed that in Matthew 28:18 when he proclaimed that "all power in heaven and on earth was given to me" and in Matthew 11:27, he said that "all things were given to him by the Father!" The source of his power and authority is God and on Judgment Day, the Son will be placed under God's rule (I Cor. 15:27-28 TEV).

gudkisserr answer
medyo pigilan mo yan bunganga mo mag buga ng hindi maganda kung ayaw mo sagutin kita ng kabastusan din...

itatanong ko ba sayo yan kung diko nabasa... at yung tanong ko base sa sinabi mo na sabi kamo sa hebrew bible ay God is the Throne of the Son na sabi mo ay methaphor yun at kaya ko tinatanong sayo yun kse may methaphor ba sa hebrew bible na nakasulat? o idinagdag mo lang yun? kaya nililiwanag ko ang stand nyo kung ang paniniwala ba ninyo ay Dios ang luklukan? sagutin mo ng diretso

yung meaning ng methaphor ay isinaksak mo lang yun sa verse... basahin mo ang talata verbatim wag mo i adulterate ng sarili mong paniniwala.

i post mo d2 yung original na txt ng verse ayon kamo sa greek o hebrew hirap sayo idadaldal mo lang tapos sasaksakan mo ng sarili mong paniniwala.

kalabog said
First of all, your rules does not say that I can not use Bible footnote. Secondly, Bible footnotes are still part of the translation of the author who publish the said Bible.

gudkisserr said
ang footnote ay hindi isinulat ng mga apostol, yan ay galing lang sa kaisipan ng mga nag salin ng biblia ayon sayo


kalabog said
Ops...Mahilig ka kasing magputol ng posting ko eh. Baka naman bandang huli ay ikaw ang umamin na nagkamali ka na naman

Sige ipakita mo ang terminong THEOS sa Hebrew Bible. Kailangan mababasa natin na THEOS yan in correct pronounciation.

FYI again, THEOS is a Greek word and therefore you can not read it in Hebrew language.

gudkisserr said
hehehe greek pala ang theos bakit sinabi mo ito

kalabog said
The truth is that the term O THEOS is not found in the Hebrew Bible also called the Masoretic Text.

gudkisserr said
nag base ako ng tanong sa sinabi mo na walang theos na mababasa sa hebrew eh alam mo palang greek yung theos bakit sa hebrew mo babasahin? hehehehe tandaan mo lahat ng tanong ko ay naka base sa sagot mo parang sinabi mo na walang God sa tagalog kasi nga english yung God

kaya pala wala kang mababasa, hebrew na theos dahil greek yung theos heheheehehehehe

ngayon basahin mo sakin sa greek na ang nakasulat ay GOD IS YOUR THRONE na ayon sayo ay yan ang nakasulat.

at yung sinabi mo na god is your throne ay pinababasa ko sayo ay may binigay kang verse. doon ba sa psalms 45:7-8 ay nakasulat ba doon na God is your Throne?

kalabog said
Turuan mo ng tamang asal si ADDorable AKA Moccachinodlight para maging maayos ang usapan dito.

gudkisserr said
turuan mo din yung kapatid mong si higop para di magulo yung thread sa kabila.

at kung may tanong ka ay doon mo i post sa kabila dahil d2 ay sagot ko lang sa mga katanungan mo

at tandaan mo hindi ako tatangap ng sagot galing sa footnote dahil ang rules ay biblia ang batayan at hindi footnote hehehehee

may sinabi kang ganito
kalabog said
If Gudkisser assertion was true then there would be more than many Mighty God.

1. Ezekiel means "Strong God". It also means "Yahweh is Strong God".
2. Elijah. This name is short for EliJehovah or "Eli Yahweh". Eli means my GOD, and Yahweh is the name and title of GOD Almighty in the Bible. Does "Eli Yahweh" or Elijah mean that the person is God Himself?
3. Gabriel also means "Strong God".
4. Isaiah or Jesaiah, which is short for "Jesa Yahweh" means "Salvation from Yahweh". It could also mean "Salvation".
5. Elihu means "My God is He".
6. Gedaliah means "Jehovah is Great". Again, Gedaliah is short for "Gedal Yahweh". Is the person who was called "Jehovah is Great" GOD Almighty Himself? People before and after Jesus are given this name. See 2 Kings 25:22-24.
7. Eliadah or Eliada means "God knows".

ayon sa paniniwala mo na ang pangalan ng Dios ay Yahweh, Elijehova, Jehovah

1 ang tanong ko sayo yan bang tatlong yan ay pangalan ng Dios ba yan ayon sa orignal na translation ng biblia?

2 sa greek ba at hebrew nakasulat ba na GOD IS YOUR THRONE sa Heb 1:8?

3 pangatlo kong tanong totoo ba ang salin sa greek na theos ang tawag sa anak?

tatlo lang yan tanong ko sana masagot mo ng direkta at wag yung gagamit ka ng foornote heheheehehe

ps
natawa ako sa sagot mo na walang mababasang theos sa hebrew eh greek pala ang salitang theos hahahaahaha natural wala ka ngang mababasa na theos sa hebrew kasi nga greek yun hahaahahaha

at ipinaaalala ko lang sayo ang magiging batayan natin. biblia lang at walang footnote

at kung katanungan ka ay doon mo sa kabila i post wag d2

 
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Re: walang mababasa na theos sa hebrew toinkkk!!!

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Oopssss

NOT SO FAST!!! Gudkisser

Paalala ko lang ito kay Gudkisser.



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ang rules natin kalabog


lahat ng tanong ay sasagutin.
bago magtanong ay dapat sagutin muna ang katanungan

bawal ang kasabihan ng matatanda
bawal ang mag base sa kanta
bawal gumamit ng libro ni satanas
bawal ang tumakbo

ang magiging batayan natin ay biblia.
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Nasaan na ang sagot dito sa tanong ko!

1. Question: Why will the Son be placed under God if he is of the same power with the Father? Please answer this.





Naghamon ka ng ganito.


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Kung maipakita ko ba sayo na ang salitang theos ay matatagpuan sa Hebrew sa talatang heb 1:8 ay aaminin mo ba na mali ang paniniwala mo? I caps ko ang heb 1:8 English at Hebrew para sa ikakaliwanag mo kung tatangapin mo ang hamon ko.


Tinanggap ko ang hamon mo

2. NOW POST YOUR THEOS IN HEBREW BIBLE Pag wala kang mai-post aaminin mong mali ang paniniwala mo!

Asan na ang ipinagyayabang mong ipapakita mo? O talaga lang na nagyayabang ka lang? Aminin mo na kasi ang pagkakamali mo at pagayayabang!

Aminin mong wala kang ilalabas at bluffer ka lang, sige lusot ka na dito sa no.2

Kung ayaw mong aminin..dy default talo ka sa Boksing


Sagutin mo muna ang mga ito bago ko sagutin ang mga bago mong tanong.











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addako: "kami sa ADD ke isang bibliya lang o ke marami...kaya naming patunayan ang aming paniniwala"

Totoo kaya itong pagyayabang ni addako? Mas mabuting ang puno na nilang si Eli Soriano ang magpatunay kung totoo nga itong ipinagyayabang ni addako...

basa!

Eliseo "Eli" Soriano: "Nababasa ba? Mga kaanib sa Iglesia...nababasa sa 'Magandang Balita Biblia' pa nga nababasa 'yon eh, 'don sa salin ng Protestante at Katoliko...mga kaanib sa Iglesia ng Dios"
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doon sa kabila

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heheheehehe paalala ko din sayo na doon sa kabilang thread ka pwede mag tanong heheheehehe i post mo sa kabila yan para masagot ko at huwag mo ihalo sa sagot ko... hehehe cute mo

hahahaahaha

 
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Re: doon sa kabila

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February 26 2007, 5:22 PM 

Dito ka sumagot

Dahil ang pinaguusapan dito ay tungkol sa Isaiah 9:6 at Hebrews 1:8.

Sa kabila ay John 5:37-54, magakaiba ang tema kaya huwag mong paghaluin.

Ikaw ang unang gumawa ng rules na puedeng magtanungan tayo dito at magsagutan. Huwag mong ibahin ang rules at huwag mong lituhin ang mga nagbabasa na patalon-talon ka sa magkabilang thread.

Ikaw ang nagbigay ng rules kaya dito ka sumagot at magtanong tungkol sa Hebrew 1:8 at Isaiah 9:6

Ngayon sagutin mo ang nakabitin kong tanong.

Kung ayaw mong sagutin dito. By default - TALO KA!






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addako: "kami sa ADD ke isang bibliya lang o ke marami...kaya naming patunayan ang aming paniniwala"

Totoo kaya itong pagyayabang ni addako? Mas mabuting ang puno na nilang si Eli Soriano ang magpatunay kung totoo nga itong ipinagyayabang ni addako...

basa!

Eliseo "Eli" Soriano: "Nababasa ba? Mga kaanib sa Iglesia...nababasa sa 'Magandang Balita Biblia' pa nga nababasa 'yon eh, 'don sa salin ng Protestante at Katoliko...mga kaanib sa Iglesia ng Dios"
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baby damulag

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February 26 2007, 6:02 PM 

i default mo nga yan utak mo... basahin mo yung mga sinasabi ko... ang sabi ko ang thread na ito ay para sa mga sagot mo at yung thread sa kabila ay para sa mga kasagutan ko sa tanong mo....

ikaw ba eh tanga o nag tatanga tangahan ka?

malabo ba mata mo? gus2 mo padalhan kita ng magnifying glass para maka kita ka ng maayos?

uulitin ko doon mo i post sa kabila ang mga tanong mo at hindi lang isang verse ang topic d2, anything goes ito kahit anong tanong basta related sa paksa ay pwede at ang paksa d2 ay tungkol kay kristo kung tao o dios at guni guni mo lang yung sinabi mo na book of john ang topic sa kabila...

bakamay hangover kapa kaya kung ano ano ang pumapasok sa isip mo heheheehehehe

sagutin mo itong mga tanong ko heheheehehe wagka umiwas ano ka mikrobyo para i baby eh damulag kana dapat maka intindi ka..

gets mo?

 
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Re: baby damulag

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February 26 2007, 6:31 PM 

hindi ako agree sa mungkahi mo.

Stick to the original rule

so inaamin mo ayaw mong sa sagutin ang tanong ko dito!


O ayan TALO na si Gudkisser ayon sa sarili niyang original debate rule!!!

Naghamon na maglalabas ng THEOS na Hebrew Bible Walang mailabas hahahaha



Bawi ka na lang sa susunod.

BYE BYE GUDLOSSER






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addako: "kami sa ADD ke isang bibliya lang o ke marami...kaya naming patunayan ang aming paniniwala"

Totoo kaya itong pagyayabang ni addako? Mas mabuting ang puno na nilang si Eli Soriano ang magpatunay kung totoo nga itong ipinagyayabang ni addako...

basa!

Eliseo "Eli" Soriano: "Nababasa ba? Mga kaanib sa Iglesia...nababasa sa 'Magandang Balita Biblia' pa nga nababasa 'yon eh, 'don sa salin ng Protestante at Katoliko...mga kaanib sa Iglesia ng Dios"
.



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tumakbo din hahahaaha

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February 26 2007, 6:34 PM 

whaaaa hahahaahahaha tumakbo din hahaahahahahahaaha mga lahi kayo ng takbuhin hahahaahahahahaahahahaha

kalabosyo tumakbo kana ba o itutuloy natin? hahahaahahaha sinira ko daw ang rules ko hahahahaaha ikaw nga itong panay foul tapos binaligtad mo ako hahahaahahaha


 
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Kalabosyo at migs nagpupunasan ng pwet sa pag takbo

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February 26 2007, 6:41 PM 

ang nasa rules bawal tumakbo whaaaa hahahahahaha si edhvie at kalabosyo eh tumakbo sakin whaaaa hahahahaha

habang tumatakbo sila eh nag pupunasan ng pwet whaaaa hahahaahahaha alam mo kung bakit tumakbo si kalabosyo

kasi bawal na gumamit ng footnote hahahaahahaha eh ang batayan nya ay footnote hahahaahahahaha

mga ka kosang INC anader inc na naman itong natatanaw ko na tumatakbo at punas punas ang pwet hahahaahahahaha....

si kalabog sa kabilang forum namaalam na hahahahaahahaha

after na hindi masagot yung mga katanungan ko eh nag declare na nanalo daw sya tulad ni migs hahahaahahaha

ang nakalagay sa rules eh ang tumakbo talo whaaaa hahahahaahaha

nakaka dalawa na ako

si migs hipon at si kalabosyo nagpupunasan ng pwet habang tumatakbo hahahahahaha


 
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Re: tumakbo din hahahaaha

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February 26 2007, 6:41 PM 

Ayaw mong sumagot ibig sabihin ikaw ang tumakbo...LOL!!!

BYE BYE GUDLOSSER






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addako: "kami sa ADD ke isang bibliya lang o ke marami...kaya naming patunayan ang aming paniniwala"

Totoo kaya itong pagyayabang ni addako? Mas mabuting ang puno na nilang si Eli Soriano ang magpatunay kung totoo nga itong ipinagyayabang ni addako...

basa!

Eliseo "Eli" Soriano: "Nababasa ba? Mga kaanib sa Iglesia...nababasa sa 'Magandang Balita Biblia' pa nga nababasa 'yon eh, 'don sa salin ng Protestante at Katoliko...mga kaanib sa Iglesia ng Dios"
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Re: tumakbo din hahahaaha

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February 27 2007, 10:33 PM 



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No score for this post February 25 2007, 1:43 PM

kalabog ang haba ng post mo heheehehe kung babasahin ko lahat ito eh dina ako makakapag trabaho pero okey lang para mailatag mo ang buong pananampalataya mo...

antayin mo lang yung sagot ko ay ipi print ko muna itong sagot mo para basahin ko mamayang breaktime...

advance kayo ng 4 hours dyan sa pinas kaya sensya na at ngayon lang ako naka online... mamaya ko na sasagutin yan mga tanong mo at babasahin ko muna ang sagot mo... unahin ko lang sagutin si migs saka yung isang kapatid mo na si Mic.

tnx



HAHAHA gumawa pa ng ibang thread di rin naman sinagot doon. Akala yata eh maikukubli na hindi siya sumasagot.

Takbo!!! Gudlosser hehehe



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addako:
"kami sa ADD ke isang bibliya lang o ke marami...kaya naming patunayan ang aming paniniwala"

Totoo kaya itong pagyayabang ni addako? Mas mabuting ang puno na nilang si Eli Soriano ang magpatunay kung totoo nga itong ipinagyayabang ni addako...

basa!

Eliseo "Eli" Soriano:
"Nababasa ba? Mga kaanib sa Iglesia...nababasa sa 'Magandang Balita Biblia' pa nga nababasa 'yon eh, 'don sa salin ng Protestante at Katoliko...mga kaanib sa Iglesia ng Dios"
.



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Ang Dating Daan ni Eli Soriano

Talakayan ng mga duktrina at sinasabi ni Eli Soriano at ng kanyang Ang Dating Daan. Ano mang mga isyu tungkol kay Eli Soriano ng Ang Dating Daan ay pwedeng pag-usapan dito. Lahat ng taga-pagtangol ng Ang Dating Daan ni Eli Soriano ay ina-anyayahan na ipagtangol ang anumang sa inaakala nyong di wasto ang mga sinasabi dito sa forum na ito at makaka-asa kayong di mawawala o di mabubura ang inyong mga kasagutan. Ang maaari lang mabura o ma-delete ay ang mga sumusunod....
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:: Ang Dating Daan Current Isyu

1.Kontrahan ni Eliseo "Eli" Soriano laban sa kanyang mga myembro sa Ang Dating Daan at Kontrahan Myembro sa Ang Dating Daan laban sa Myembro sa Ang Dating Daan
Eliseo "Eli" Soriano VS Myembro sa Ang Dating Daan / Kaanib VS Kaanib (sa ADD)

2.Isyu sa Authorization at Pirma na Hamon ng Ang Dating Daan ni Eliseo "Eli" Soriano na Tinanggap ng Iglesia ni Cristo.
To Meigon (Isyu sa authorization at pirma) Matagal ng tinanggap ito ni Ka Ramil Parba...

3.Isyu tungkol sa pagpaparatang ng 'Ang Dating Daan' ni Eliseo "Eli" Soriano na Inatangan di' umano ng Iglesia Ni Cristo na Nanghambalos si Cristo.
"Mga ministro na inatangang nanghambalos ang panginoong Hesu-Kristo?" - Meigon

4.Iba't-ibang version na Salitang "Tarantado" ni Eliseo "Eli" Soriano ng Ang Dating Daan.
TARANTADO = Mura, HINDI mura, Atarantado, tarantar, nataranta (ANO BA TALAGA ANG TOTOO?)

5.Ang Paninira ni Eliseo "Eli" Soriano na Puno sa 'Ang Dating Daan' na Kinopya di' umano ng Iglesia Ni Cristo ang 'Banal na Halik.
Banal na Halik Kinopya sa Wyclife Bible Commentary (?)

6.Natupad daw di' umano ang Hula sa Zac. 13:8-9 sa 'Ang Dating Daan' ni Eliseo "Eli" Soriano.
ZACARIAS 13:8-9, HULA na natupad sa ANG DATING DAAN ni ELI SORIANO. Pag-usapan natin ito..

7.Ang nasabi ni Edchin na kaanib sa 'Ang Dating Daan' ni Eliseo "Eli" Soriano na Ire-renovate daw nila di' umano ang Kapilya ng Iglesia Ni Cristo. (bangag kaya itong si Edchin sa IHI 'nung sabihin niya ito?)
"Ang kapilya ng Iglesia Ni Cristo ay aming ire-renovate" - edchin (MINISTRO)

8.Isyu Patungkol sa Lecture ni ka Erdie na hindi Maunawaan ang diwa nito ni Eliseo "Eli" Soriano at maging ng kaanib niya sa 'Ang Dating Daan' na ngayon'y tinatawag ng 'Members Church of God International'.
"May punong pangkalahatan na gustong dagukan, bahain, tamaan ng kidlat..." - Meigon

9.Ang Nagkasalungatang Pahayag ni Eliseo "Eli" Soriano ng 'Ang Dating Daan' patungkol sa Isyung "Nagulat" si Thomas.
"He is not NAGULAT!" - Eliseo "Eli" Soriano (puno ng Ang Dating Daan)

10.Ini-Isyu ng 'Ang Dating Daan' ni Eliseo "Eli" Soriano na 'Mamamatay-tao' di' umano ang mga Iglesia Ni Cristo.
"mga mamatay tao kayo dyan kayo branded!!!" - PUGITA (kaanib sa 'Ang Dating Daan)

11.Kasagutan ni Meigon na kaanib sa 'Ang Dating Daan' ni Eliseo "Eli" Soriano patungkol sa 'Isyu ng Banal na Hapunan sa Ang Dating Daan'.
Sagot ko po regarding sa aming (Ang Dating Daan members) Banal na Hapunan

12.Isyu ng 'Ang Dating Daan' ni Eliseo "Eli" Soriano patungkol sa Stand ng Iglesia Ni Cristo na Anghel o Sugo ng Dios si ka Felix Manalo
Kaya naman po pala napagkamalian ng Iglesia Ni Cristo na anghel si Gno. Felix Manalo - Meigon

13.Ang Nakikita di' umano ni Meigon na kaanib sa 'Ang Dating Daan' ni Eliseo "Eli" Soriano na di' niya nakikita dati
Talaga bang gusto n'yong malaman ang nakikita ko ngayon na hindi ko nakikita dati? - Meigon

14.Ang Paanyaya ni Meigon na Kaanib sa 'Ang Dating Daan' ni Eliseo "Eli" Soriano sa lahat ng Iglesia Ni Cristo na nasa forum.
[To all Iglesia Ni Cristo here] Convince Me! - Meigon


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