The ASP handcuff product is a bit confusing to me - considering all of the different colored "double-locks", different colored frames, and their "chain", hinged", and "rigid" models.

Speaking only of their "Chain" & "Hinge" models - would the following information be correct:
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All "Chain" models are stamped "Model 100".
All "Hinge" models are stamped "Model 200"
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RED double-lock: was their first model cuff, and is no longer offered (I have one, yet it is no longer sold. If that's true - WHY?)

YELLOW double-lock: is their current standard pawl & std. key.

BLUE double-lock: is their new "2-pawl" ratchet & 2-bitted key.

GREEN double-lock: is their 3-pawl "European" cuff, which takes a std. key.
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Do I have things pretty much correct?

Hi Joe:
You are almost correct. There is also a model 150, which is the chain cuff in Aluminum, and the model 250, which is the hinged cuff in Aluminum.
ASP dropped the red double lock because it was so easy to pick, so they improved it with the yellow double lock. It might make a difference for most people, but I know picking the red, yellow, blue, green, and pink are all easy for you. ALL the locksets are interchangable among all the cuffs, and are supposed to also be interchangable in the rigid cuff if we ever see them.
Stan

Thanks, Stan!

Hello all, a few years ago I visited DHW/Buckstaff in person, and picked up a paper ad flyer listing the "soon to be released" blue, green (higher security) and RED (training) models. As listed in the flyer for the training model was an all black frame w/red DL. However the training version currently for sale is with an all red frame w/red DL. Perhaps the company was initially going to make the DL's red for the standard models, (as in Joe Fox's example) then reserved red for the trainers, then decided to make the whole cuff red for quick visual ID. This makes the most sense to me.
Take care --Vince

Hi Vince:
Many "Training" items, like guns, have been red for many years, so it isn't surprising to see the red training cuffs. ASP makes many different red training guns. Parts of the US military and some foreign police departments use Blue for training cuffs.
Stan

Most of Joe's queries are explained fairly clearly in the ASP Buyer's Guide that's available online at http://www.asp-net.com/bookpages/catalog_2009.html or on a handy CD that I picked up on a visit to a local cop shop here in Atlanta where I'm on a short business trip.

As for the earliest version with the red d/l indicator, my understanding was that they were discontinued because there was a fault with the locks - so perhaps the fault was, as Stan says, that they were too easy to pick.

Incidentally, the ASP "Rigid" cuffs feature quite prominently in their Buyer's Guide. It seems they're now quoting delivery for "June", but we're not told which year!

Mike Riccard
a.k.a. Mikeintightpants
Birmingham, England

hi

it seems that the yellow locks as easy to pick like the red locks
so what is the difference

asp only make cuffs for escape artist but not for the real work

I will never trust an asp cuff on duty


best

patrick