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How do Smith Wesson 104 differ to 104-1?

July 6 2017 at 7:51 AM
James Covington  (no login)

I am trying to decide but I dont understand the actual difference? It is not clear. Does anyone know?

 
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Re: How do Smith Wesson 104 differ to 104-1?

July 6 2017, 9:20 AM 

welded frame and now the cheaper made riveted frame (-1)

 
 
James Covington
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Re: How do Smith Wesson 104 differ to 104-1?

July 6 2017, 11:23 AM 

Isn't rivets better and more secure than a weld?

 
 
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Re: How do Smith Wesson 104 differ to 104-1?

July 6 2017, 8:10 PM 

"Models 103 stainless steel and Model 104 high security have used the riveted design for a long time. Now everything will be riveted. Previously all other models were brazed to weld them together instead of using rivets".

Excerpted from:
http://blog.handcuffwarehouse.com/2011/08/18/new-riveted-smith-wesson-handcuffs/


As long as Smith & Wesson has been making cuffs, they must be fairly confident that the mfg change will work. If the rivets don't work, lots of "LEO's" could be in a world of hurt! sad.gif

 
 
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Re: How do Smith Wesson 104 differ to 104-1?

July 6 2017, 8:52 PM 

The Titanic was riveted, modern ships are welded. Also the diameter of the rivet stem is smaller than the holes in the stock. therefore if the cuffs are forced or dropped hard, the lock-case can go out of alignment.

 
 
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Re: How do Smith Wesson 104 differ to 104-1?

July 6 2017, 9:08 PM 

We're talking handcuffs here, not ocean liners! Besides, if Capt Smith had used his head and heeded the ice warnings, the Titanic would have been in service years longer .......

 
 
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Re: How do Smith Wesson 104 differ to 104-1?

July 6 2017, 9:25 PM 

cannot educate some people, how simplistic do you want the answer just enough for the 5th grader mind?? like yours

 
 
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Re: How do Smith Wesson 104 differ to 104-1?

July 6 2017, 10:40 PM 

Look in the mirror!!

 
 
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Re: How do Smith Wesson 104 differ to 104-1?

July 7 2017, 2:08 AM 

said like a true 5th grader. congrats on you. you should take up twitter also. LMAO

 
 
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Re: How do Smith Wesson 104 differ to 104-1?

July 7 2017, 3:14 AM 

What is the difference between riveted joints and welding joints ...
https://mechanical-engg.com › Blogs › Mechanical Engineering Questions
Oct 4, 2013 - Rivet joint are only held by the rivets, causing the joint to become weak. In Welding joints, two metals become one; the weld, if done right is ...

 
 
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Re: How do Smith Wesson 104 differ to 104-1?

July 7 2017, 7:13 AM 

Do not confuse welded seam and spot welding, used in S&W

 
 
James Covington
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Re: How do Smith Wesson 104 differ to 104-1?

July 7 2017, 12:13 PM 

So which is better? Are there any internal differences or aesthetic differences?

 
 
The one an only God
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Re: How do Smith Wesson 104 differ to 104-1?

July 7 2017, 8:06 PM 

the rivets can has sharp edges and are spun so thin the heads are weak. also there are no spots welds in S&W cuff. never have been.

 
 
 
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