CSA standard for Ice Hockey is approved. As for suggested, that depends on the individual goalie. Lots of goalies wear ice hockey goalie masks and helmets. You will also want to ensure a capable throat guard is attached as well.
Posted on Apr 15, 2014, 9:56 AM from IP address 126.96.36.199
MR3.03 If a club in town, village or community has a number of players whom they cannot use on their team or teams, these players may, if released by the parent club, apply to the Board of Directors for permission to play with the next closest town, village or community.
Generally speaking, if there is a spot on another team in another center, the home association will not prevent you from being released to go play there once tryouts have been completed AND once a reasobable effort has been made to get a 2 team together. The release would usually be a one year conditional release so that the players would revert back to their home association after the season is done.
If the home association tries to hoodwink the players into staying for house league and refuse the release, the player can appeal to the Zone and then the OLA if the Zone does not grant a release. In most cut and dried cases, the OLA will grant a release for a player to play rep.
That is how it is supposed to work.
Posted on Mar 25, 2014, 11:01 AM from IP address 188.8.131.52
I am one of Robert Melville's granddaughter's, I have wondered about the trophy name after him
And where it is today. I would like to know where and what it looks like.
So if you could help me locate it I would be greatful. Please post a message! Thank you very much for your time.
Posted on Mar 16, 2014, 7:49 PM from IP address 184.108.40.206
The Ontario Masters Lacrosse Association is looking for players 22 years and older, to participate in their Masters Lacrosse Tournaments and Events year round. We would appreciate it if the Minor and Junior Lacrosse Organizations would help by informing Parents and Graduating Junior Players, that there are opportunities to play Masters Lacrosse throughout Ontario. For more information, please go to www.OntarioMastersLacrosse.com
Posted on Mar 6, 2014, 11:46 AM from IP address 220.127.116.11
The Toronto Stars Lacrosse Association is looking for box rep head coaches at the Peewee and Bantam 2 level. This is an excellent opportunity to help grow minor lacrosse in the Toronto (Scarborough) area, and have a positive impact on the lives of young laxers! We play our home games out of Scarborough Gardens in Toronto, and play in Zone 6. The Toronto Stars Lacrosse Association has had much success on the floor we are growing and making a name for ourselves. Come be part of something awesome! For further information, please contact Dona Lei Fitchett at firstname.lastname@example.org
Posted on Feb 26, 2014, 10:12 AM from IP address 18.104.22.168
***DURHAM MASTERS LACROSSE LEAGUE** DMLL SUMMER LACROSSE PROGRAM 2014 ****
SUMMER LACROSSE 2014 Registration will be on THURSDAYS: MARCH 13 & MARCH 20 & MARCH 27
from 730 pm to 10 pm at the OSHAWA CIVIC FIELDHOUSE
The 2014 season starts MONDAY APRIL 21 2014 .The league is opened to players aged 15 years and up. This recreational lacrosse league is non-contact & follows Masters Lacrosse Rules.
For further info visit www.dmlllax.ca
Posted on Feb 22, 2014, 11:21 AM from IP address 22.214.171.124
.....it could be fixed I'm sure....will it be....I doubt it. This is not a new issue. This was the same issue that Bantam Nats ran into last summer. Clearly the OLA and CLA are comfortable with the conflict.
Posted on Feb 17, 2014, 9:41 PM from IP address 126.96.36.199
The Oakville Titans are continuing their search for a Head Coach for the upcoming season. If you are interested in leading a high tempo offence, stingy defence and some of the best goaltenders in the league, please email our GM at JOSH.BRISCOE@SYMPATICO.CA
Senior B lacrosse is the perfect place for anybody looking to coach at a high level or to build their resume as they move up the coaching ranks into Major and/or the NLL. The players are here for the love of the game and to play at a very high level, while many of them also look to move up to Major and/or the NLL. Every season, the talent and competition level get better and better.
I look forward to hearing from potential coaches and getting the ball rolling for 2014!!
Posted on Jan 8, 2014, 8:03 PM from IP address 188.8.131.52
We are running clinics again this Sunday (December 8th) at Scarborough's Leacock Arena. The clinics are free for registered players, and $10 for non-registered players. You can register on-site if you haven't done so already!
1-3pm - U9/U12/Bantam Boys & U16 Girls
3-5pm - Midget/Prospects Boys & U19 Girls/Women
For more information or to confirm your attendance, please feel free to contact us at email@example.com .
Please note that all of the goalie spots for this weekend have already been secured.
See you on Sunday!
Posted on Dec 3, 2013, 9:21 AM from IP address 184.108.40.206
A lot has changed over the five years Jeff Williamson has been with the London Blue Devils.
The bench boss is taking a step back from the team, not a step away he assures. After two years as the general manager and three years as the co-head coach, he wants to spend more time on the lacrosse floor with his five kids four of them enrolled in the minor leagues of the sport.
While Williamson wont be on the Blue Devils bench anymore, hes still close to it, reaching out to prospects and even scheduling the local Ontario Jr. B lacrosse teams games. He said in the back of his mind, booking game days is about finding a way to work around his kids matchups and practices and still be able to come out to Earl Nichols Recreation Centre.
New for 2014, we are proud to announce the addition of girls divisions to the JR CLAX program.
Fully insured and playing out of state-of-the-art venues, Girls CLAX provides young women the opportunity to develop their lacrosse skills during the winter season. The season operates from mid-February to the second week of April. Each registered player receives the opportunity to play a minimum of 8 games, an official Pro Style game jersey and shorts, name bar, insurance, and a CLAX season pass to get into all CLAX pro games for free! Each team plays 2 games per day for a total of 8 games. All teams in the same division play on the same day, and the majority of games are on Saturdays & Sundays. The top teams in each age group play in the CLAX Final Four Festival Weekend (April 12-13).
Registration before November 30th is only $200 all in for the girls divisions!
Come on out to Scarborough's Leacock Arena this Sunday November 24th at 1PM to participate in our first ever Girls CLAX lacrosse clinic. Floor time is free for registered players and $10 for those who have not yet registered. This is a great opportunity for girls field and box players to sharpen their skills over the winter!
For more information, please e-mail us at firstname.lastname@example.org or visit our website (www.canadianlacrosseleague.ca).
Please spread the word about this exciting new opportunity for female players!
Posted on Nov 20, 2013, 11:37 AM from IP address 220.127.116.11
The 2013 Junior CLax open house and clinics start Sunday November 3rd at Stephen Leacock Arena in Scarborough and continue every Sunday. Potential Junior CLax players can come, register and take advantage of the open floor. If our numbers are strong we will operate an on floor clinic. Cost to participate for non-registered players is $10 per hour.
The times are as follows:
Sunday November 3rd
1pm 3pm U9 and U12
3pm 5pm Bantam, Midget and Prospects
Sunday November 10th
1pm 2:30pm U9 and U12
2:30 - 4pm Bantam and Midget
4pm 5pm Prospects
Posted on Oct 29, 2013, 2:08 PM from IP address 18.104.22.168
Just wondering before we go to the AGM if everyone is receiving the lax magazine on a regular basis, semi regular. or not at all. This is the OLA mag. that the clubs are levied to pay for and that Mr. MacSpadyen spends time to prepare to keep us informed of all lax happenings in Ontario. If you receive this mag. is the content informative, not informative, or what would you change?
Posted on Oct 29, 2013, 3:35 AM from IP address 22.214.171.124
***DURHAM MASTERS LACROSSE LEAGUE- DMLL WINTER LACROSSE PROGRAM 2014 ****
WINTER LACROSSE Registration will be on THURSDAY NOVEMBER 21 & NOVEMBER 28
from 730 pm to 10 pm at the OSHAWA CIVIC FIELDHOUSE
The 2014 season starts Thursday JAN 2 2014 .The league is opened to players aged 15 yrs and up. This recreational lacrosse league is non-contact and follows Masters Lacrosse Rules.
For further info visit www.dmlllax.ca
Posted on Oct 26, 2013, 11:28 AM from IP address 126.96.36.199
Many years ago Canadas most storied field lacrosse program The Oshawa Blue Knights
sponsored a local community program that provided kids an opportunity to play during the fall months in Oshawa. BKLax.ca will now provide the Durham region with fall and winter field lacrosse training and game play. Our new elite level lacrosse mentors have developed a program that will teach and train field lacrosse specific skills to players from age 4 -17 at state-of-the-art, indoor, City of Oshawa facilities.
The Blue Knights House League Field Lacrosse Program will begin in November 7. Divided into 2 sessions, we will be on the field on Thursday nights with holiday breaks until the end of February.
This is a non- checking, insured, co-ed program that focuses on enjoyment, fitness and skills development for all kids who want to play the game. It is open to all. Our age groups (numbers permitting) are U7, U9, U11, U13, U17. Each session will be limited to 100 participants on a first come first serve basis. Visit our website for online registration and further details!www.bklax.ca
Please note this is a program independent of the Oshawa Minor Lacrosse Association.
If you require further information, please feel free to contact me. Hope to see you on the field!
Posted on Oct 14, 2013, 11:42 AM from IP address 188.8.131.52
Hi Minor Lacrosse fans, athletes and coaches. Id like to invite you guys to a FREE Mental training for coaches and athletes, called Ask an Olympian. Ask an Olympian is a 5 FREE Tele-coaching calls hosted by Dr. Andrea Wieland, an Olympian, counselling psychologist, and life and performance coach. Learn the 5 Key to Athletic Success designed to assist competitive high school athletes and their parents and coaches to gain an edge through 5 key elements.
The 2nd Call will be on Oct-09, make sure have your selves registered at:
The Ask An Olympian Call #2 is already ended, get your audio and pdf file of the discussion of Dr. Andrea Wieland, Olympian and her guest speaker It was great discussion of Dr. Andrea Wieland, Olympian with her guest speaker Jeff Olson which is also a 2xOlympian that talked about sports nutrition, recommendations on what, when and how to eat & drink, and before and after competition, as well as how you want to eat from day to day. Jeff provided awesome information about the Blind Spots in Sports Nutrition. And they both discussed why nutrition is so important to your athletic success.
New for the 2014 season of CLax we are proud to announce a pilot league for girls. Jr. Girls CLax is an insured winter box league played with NO off ball contact.
The Jr. Girls CLax program has begun registration for the 2014 season via the CLax website www.canadianlacrosseleague.ca and will be registering players in the following two age groups:
U16 and Prospects (U19)
Age groups are based on the player age group for the 2014 OLA season. Each team is guaranteed 8 games - 2 games per game day over 4 weekends between mid-February and the end of March. The top 4 teams in each age group will play during the CLax Final Four Festival Weekend April 12.
Team names will be based on our current CLax Pro teams as well as the Kitchener Pioneers:
OLA Organizations can put in a team entry, please ask for more information.
Based on registration each player may get the opportunity to play in these state of the art venues:
Barrie Molson Centre
Powerade Centre (Brampton)
GM Centre (Oshawa)
Seymour Hannah Athletic Complex (St Catharines)
Iroquois Lacrosse Arena
Mattamy Athletic Centre (Toronto - formerly Maple Leaf Gardens)
The top 4 teams play in the CLax Pro Final Four Festival Weekend April 12th-13th.
There are no tryouts and each registered players receives a pro jersey including name bar and shorts, a $100 value.
If you register before midnight October 31st Jr Girls CLax has an introductory price of $200. Regular cost to play Jr Girls CLax is $300, but there is an Earlybird price of $250 in effect until November 30th.
For more information contact Sue Powless (sue[dot]powless[at]gmail[dot]com) or visit the CLax website.
Posted on Sep 27, 2013, 1:27 PM from IP address 184.108.40.206
Cleaning up around the house I have come across a small trophy from the Windsor Minor Lacrosse Association.It says Jacques Printing 71 PEE WEE CHAMPS and has my name on it. I think this was my first season of what would become a bit of a life long obsession . It is fitting that I would find this trophy as I have been reminiscing much about the game lately. The reason I have been reminiscing is that this will be the first year in about thirty years that I will be no more than a fan of lacrosse . I am a nobody in the lacrosse community but I have played house and rep, coached D to A and then Jr , been president of an Association and operated a Jr lacrosse team . It has been an interesting ride to say the least. I belong to one of those communities (not Windsor btw) where we had to beg kids to play lacrosse, or maybe I should say we begged the parents to let the kids play. Almost any kid I have seen introduced to lacrosse wants to play but its a hard sell when dad and mom are not familiar with the game. I have always been envious of those of you who get to make cuts to their rep and Jr teams instead of letting whoever will pay the fee play. Therefore whenever we were able to beat you there was extra satisfaction . I digress
. Back to that trophy. Thats not a zone championship or tournament trophy. Its not a Provincial gold medal. That trophy is for House League and with it came a lifetime of lacrosse for this guy . I look back on my youth sports days and not all of the great memories are from the rep teams. As a matter of fact some of the best recollections are from House League teams which now brings me to the point I would like to make. I have a hobby of sorts and that is to sit and watch other coaches run practices whenever I can . This summer I had the opportunity to watch what looked like a PeeWee house league practice in Peterborough and I learned more about teaching lacrosse in thirty minutes than I had the last couple of years . The guy instructing the coaches and the players was none other than John Grant Sr . Later I found out he was running the House League program for Peterborough . People had said to me for many years you must have a successful House League in order to have a successful Rep program and that day the truth FINALLY sunk in . I have seen a few associations fail and there are several I know of that are losing kids fast . My biggest regret is watching a House League program fail when I was President of an Association and I urge all of you to pay very close attention to your House Leagues and make sure the coaching and refereeing are up to par and keep those parents and kids happy and loving the game .
Posted on Sep 23, 2013, 12:55 PM from IP address 220.127.116.11
The Rock Elite League begins its first season of play in less than a month at the Toronto Rock Athletic Centre in Oakville.
Age divisions are Novice, Peewee, Bantam, Midget and Junior. Players are asked to register in the age category they competed in during the 2013 OLA season. There are still tryout spots open at all age groups.
The Oshawa Blue Knights U19 tryouts are here!!
ALL tryout dates will be held at the civic fields on field 5
ALL participants must pay a one time $20 fee for all tryouts
Wed, Aug 21 6:30-9:00
Sat, Aug 24 10:00-12:00
Mon, Aug 26 6:00-8:30
Wed, Aug 28 6:00-9:00
Wed, Sept 4 6:30-9:00
Posted on Aug 18, 2013, 11:10 AM from IP address 18.104.22.168
I have just come home from TRAC on Sat. at 5, so some questions are answered, mostly in PW, but Bantam and Midget have only part of the picture filled in.
In PW, Oakville and Whitby played in the last round robin game, even though they had both qualified for the gold medal game, so I'm sure the coaching strategies were not quite what they will be on Sunday, but for posterity's sake, Oakville beat Whitby 9-6, to give themselves a chance of going through both qualifiers and provincial finals unblemished, pretty big achievement if you ask me. Should be a great final. For sure Peterborough is in the bronze game, and someone told me Guelph as well, all unofficial.
In Bantam, as a homer I watched the Oakville afternoon game, as they had lost in the morning to St. Cath. so needed at least one point to advance to the gold medal game. They did a great job and handled 6 Nations 5-2, so they are in, with a chance to play St. Cath. again and win it all. On the next pad Kitchener beat Mimico 4-3, not sure if that helps Kitchener make the bronze game, some math there I think. Also, St. Cath. was the next game and I am sure if they won it would affect the bronze game, so no real help there.
In Midget none of the afternoon games were done, but I am sure Brampton is safe and locked in for the gold game, it is also safe to say that another zone 10 team will win a medal as Orangeville and Mimico looked like the best bets to play Brampton in the final, or at least snag a bronze, kinda a loaded zone this year.
Hope this helps a little bit, others will complete the puzzle I am sure.
Posted on Aug 17, 2013, 5:35 PM from IP address 22.214.171.124
We are entering the 11th year for the Brampton House League Fall Field Program.
The program runs September 8th,15th, 22nd, 29th, October 6th, 13th and Championship day Oct 20th
Games are from 4:30 7:30 pm. Each team plays two games per evening. All games are played at Terry Fox Stadium at Chinguacousy Park. (Bramalea/Queen)
New coaches are encouraged and welcome!
Open to boys and girls aged 4-15 yrs (born 1998-2008)
No experience needed!
$100 registration fee (including uniform)
Jr. Division and Sr. Division
7 week program
2 games and 1 practice per week (all on Sunday night)
Night of Champs Sun Oct 20th
End of year gift for all participants
Improve your overall lacrosse skills
Non-contact (aka cross check lacrosse)
Great introduction to field lacrosse with modified rules for first time players
Mon Aug 5th, Tue Aug 13th & Thu Aug 22nd. (6 to 8 pm) at:
Flower City Community Campus
Sports Administration Office 8930 McLaughlin Road South,
BLDG "D" Room 2
If you are not registered with the BMLA for a program in the 2013 season, you will be required to complete an OLA player card.
All participants must complete a registration form and provide the $100 fee at the time of registration. Cheques can be made payable to BMLA.
New players will need to bring a copy of their Proof of Birth (Birth Certificate/Passport) document and will need to complete an Ontario Lacrosse Association Membership Registration Certificate (player card).
Players from other clubs must provide a copy (both sides) of their Ontario Lacrosse Association player card. This copy will be kept in your file as proof of your OLA insurance.
Posted on Aug 16, 2013, 4:25 PM from IP address 126.96.36.199
Whatever happened to lax being played at the CNE? I can remember playing and watching for years growing up but haven't seen it on display at the EX for a long time. Anyone remember this happening and does anyone know why it is not anymore?
This would be another great showcase for the sport with the amount of ppl this venue attracts.
Posted on Aug 15, 2013, 4:12 PM from IP address 188.8.131.52
The CNE would make a great venue for some National Championship at the Ricoh Coliseum. Something like the Founders Cup with lots of teams in a tournament format. Not only would it draw people in from the CNE, but it would draw lacrosse folks to the CNE. A win-win.
Posted on Aug 15, 2013, 9:00 PM from IP address 184.108.40.206
I often wonder if too much is being made of the generation gap and sometimes the baby gets thrown out with the bath water. For sure, there is the old timer that can be heard saying that old familiar refrain, "Back in my day..." to the point where newer folks roll their eyes and keep on doing what they are doing without a second thought or listen.
But something like this, lacrosse at the CNE - as an exhibition - is something that may simply not have occurred to the younger generation running the OLA. An idea worth of sending them an email about.
Posted on Aug 16, 2013, 1:00 PM from IP address 220.127.116.11
The CNE archives has lacrosse related material with dates from 58-78-- most late 60's 70's pictures and crest.(according to the descriptions). Some say Novice and PeeWee championships, girls juvinile. Not sure whats at the ricoh during the cne but we used to play to the left as you come off lakeshore blvd in a field where now might be a parking lot?
Posted on Aug 16, 2013, 4:38 PM from IP address 18.104.22.168
The Green Gaels have survived a fourth elimination game in this years playoffs, defeating the Six Nations Rebels by a score of 13 - 9 last night at the Iroquois Lacrosse Arena to force game #4 back home at the Garnet B. Rickard Recreation Complex tomorrow night, August 14th at 8PM at the corner of Highway 57 and Highway 2 in Bowmanville.
The Gaels will try and continue their dramatic ways to even the series up. After losing the first two games of the series by scores of 19 - 10 and 6 - 4, putting a blemish on the Six Nations Rebels perfect season seemed like a long shot, but these boys just keep fighting for their playoff lives.
Win or lose, this will be the final game of 2013 for the Green Gaels at the Garnet B. Rickard Recreation Complex, as game #5 (if necessary) will be played at the Iroquois Lacrosse Arena on Friday, August 15th.
Games #2 and #3 have been some awesome lacrosse, and game #4 promises to be much of the same. There is not much Junior/Senior lacrosse left in the Durham Region, and this is definitely one game you will not want to miss! Best price in town for lacrosse, best bang for your buck!
Tickets for the Green Gaels Home Playoff Games are $8 for adults, $5 for seniors and students, while children 12 and under are admitted free under the supervision of an adult. You will want to get to the arena early for this one as seats will be at a premium.
Kids, don't forget to bring your helmet and stick to go on the floor at the intermissions!
Posted on Aug 13, 2013, 10:43 AM from IP address 22.214.171.124
The Green Gaels welcome the Six Nations Rebels to the Garnet B. Rickard Recreation Complex tonight for game #2 of the OJBLL Finals. The Six Nations Rebels currently lead the series 1 - 0. Game time tonight is 8PM on Pad A.
The Gaels will be trying to turn things around against the Rebels who won decisively at the Iroquois Lacrosse Arena this past Friday evening, 19 - 10. The Gaels know they have to be better and plan to do so in front of their home crowd. Hopefully what was some great lacrosse to watch at times for the fans will translate well to the Garnet B. Rickard Recreation Complex at Highway 57 and Highway 2 in Bowmanville tonight for a full 60 minutes.
For all Green Gaels fans who have not gotten to see these Rebels play, I can tell you from first hand experience they are one hell of a talented team and are very fun to watch. Unfortunately, with the schedule in Junior B set up the way it is, this playoff round will be your only opportunity to see a team from outside of our conference, and you won't want to miss it!
Tickets for Green Gaels Home Playoff Dates are $8 for adults, $5 for seniors and students, while children 12 and under are admitted free of charge under the supervision of an adult.
Kids, make sure you bring your helmet and sticks to go on the floor in between periods!
Posted on Aug 11, 2013, 11:00 AM from IP address 126.96.36.199
***DURHAM MASTERS LACROSSE LEAGUE- DMLL Fall Ball LACROSSE PROGRAM 2013 ****
Final Registration will be on THURSDAY August 15
from 6 pm to 8 pm at the OSHAWA CIVIC FIELDHOUSE
The 2013 season starts Thursday Sept 5 2013 .The league is opened to players aged 15 yrs and up. This recreational lacrosse league is non-contact and follows Masters Lacrosse Rules.
For further info visit www.dmlllax.ca
Posted on Aug 11, 2013, 7:46 AM from IP address 188.8.131.52
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A direct hit to the head is a very serious infraction that can result in a Match penalty - 3 games minimum and a hearing. Repeated penalties of this type can result in longer suspensions or expulsions from lacrosse. Even with a glancing blow, where the stick rides up a jersey, can result in a Major, Game or Match penalty depending on severity. So there is a measure of referee discretion required.
I watched a game today where there were a few sticks riding up into throats. This concerns me the most, however, a ref has to be in a certain position to see this sort of high stick. The only thing I can see making a difference is a third ref.
Posted on Aug 7, 2013, 5:04 PM from IP address 184.108.40.206
The third ref may help, but cost is prohibitive, especially at minor and for small centers.
No, the real solution lies within ENFORCEMENT of the rules. The rules already exist, as the moderator has pointed out. The problem is, they are almost NEVER enforced. It's akin to a judge having the ability to put you in jail for 2 years less a day but instead giving you time served on a promise not to re-offend. It's a joke. The OLA/CLA keeps making it a "point of emphasis" each year to crack down on the headshots but it is all lip service. Nothing changes. Kids keep getting hurt, sometimes severely.
What's it going to take???? Don't even answer that question.
I have been around this game going on 40 years. And I love it. But I agree with OP that the headshot problem is a glaring one and it hurts us all. I see talented kids with lots of potential leaving every year and not coming back. It's a shame. When is lacrosse going to pick up the plot? We are so far behind hockey and football in acknowledging and addressing the concussion issue that it's embarassing.
The problem is first and foremost the refs. Whether it be because they are Level 1 - 3 and really just don't know the rules, or are higher or more experienced but just won't call it (old school mentality, don't want to kick a kid out, it's the first game of a tourney, blah blah blah I've heard em all).
But another problem is the mindset. It has to start somewhere - and if the refs won't do it, then it's incumbent on coaches and associations to do it. If you have a player who gets away with one in the game but you clearly see it, how about enforcing your own disciplinary penalty? How about giving the kid a one-game suspension internally to teach a lesson? Who's willing to step up and do this? Which organizations are willing to formalize this into a policy?
Posted on Aug 7, 2013, 5:27 PM from IP address 220.127.116.11
A few years ago my kid took a headshot that ended his hockey season. Rep hockey, high level, big bucks. The kid making the hit got three games. In a case of injury if the person making the hit was forced to sit out as long as the injured kid they may think twice about raising the stick. Could work in lacrosse also as the number of high hits has really skyrocketed. Would not be a solution in all cases but could be a deterrent.
Posted on Aug 9, 2013, 7:25 PM from IP address 18.104.22.168
The penalties are already in the rule book but let's not worry about making the refs, the paid officials, call the head shots and thereby change the whole mindset. Let's not expect them to take a couple of minutes after the game to write it up on the back of the game sheet. Let's just put the onus on the coaches! And let's make them go to a couple of 2 day clinics so they can understand it all, and let's charge them $175-$200 to attend.
Posted on Aug 10, 2013, 12:17 PM from IP address 22.214.171.124
Nice to see that there are others out there with concerns that I share, especially after having been tossed for "discussing" some of these exact issues a little to strongly with a ref this past weekend. Excellent points that need further discussion, especially for the younger age groups. I agree 100% the rules are there, they just need to be enforced according to the letter of the law. It Is clear that refs are not being taught to make these calls.
In addition to the cross check to the neck/head and the head being the initial point of contact, I will add a third call that I think needs to be enforced/called more strictly. When a player moves the ball, shot/pass, and is vulnerable, especially near the boards, and then takes an obvious targeted hit, especially into the boards, after the ball has been released, 1 sec. , make a call ! This is of course more for the younger age groups where kids understand the idea of hitting but have minimal skill in being able to protect themselves in these types of situations.
Posted on Aug 8, 2013, 11:47 AM from IP address 126.96.36.199
and one I have had some serious concerns about as well. I have to agree with Todd's point, and it is something that I have been saying for a couple of years now.
WE NEED A 3RD REF! Not necessarily in Tyke - Peewee, but from about Bantam and up, including Junior and Senior, it is time. I have been known to "discuss" these issues with officials as well the odd time. But it is always in the interest of safety of the players on the floor.
It's one thing that hockey has done that I like; you hit the the head, and you are gone! And I say multiple games. The players need to have the capability to control their emotions and their stick. If they cannot, we do not need them in this game. As this poster says though, not the glance, but the uncontrolled or intentional hit direct to the head.
And I'm sorry to any of the anti-fighting folks, but with the new penalty rules, head shots have gotten worse. Most in the game knew it would happen and it has. I'm not saying fighting "should" be a part of the game, but when players used to have to answer for their own actions, most were in control.
The issue for me as far as the 3rd ref is concerned is the speed of the game now and it needs more eyes watching. Referees at the higher levels are very competent (or they would not be at the level, the same as the players). But there is too much to look out for, watching the benches on changes, cheap shots, goals, assists, etc.
My suggestion is a 3rd official either in the time box, or at a higher level (press box, or even in the stands). Think of how much you as a fan see, that the ref appears to not be able to see. That 3rd set of eyes would eliminate the "crap", watch for cheating off the bench (O/D), and in my opinion get the idiots out of the game and get this back to the fastest game on two feet, without the BS.
Just my thoughts.
Posted on Aug 11, 2013, 12:14 PM from IP address 188.8.131.52
Here we go again, the highsticking issue has been around for a long time, and it does not matter what rules are put into place these will still occur. I have listened and read comments about how people feel that any head shot should be an automatic suspension, tell that to a 5 year old who is trying to knock the ball out of a players stick but hits the kid the head instead. I agree that the cross checks directly to the throat or head should be called, and yes there are the rules in place to make those calls, those have the ability to have a 5 minute major, or a match penalty.
Remeber though for those of you sitting in the stands or behind the bench, your view point is much better than that of a referee, have any of you ever refereed a lacrosse game? Maybe you should before you start bashing officials. For those of you that think that referees do this to become millionaires, you are sadly mistaken, referees do this for the love of the game. Are people aware that every year a referee, no matter what level, must attend a clinic. They are supervised throughout the year, and the top level three referees are used for the provincals and qualifiers.
It easy to bash a referee, but next time put yourself in there place, and then you can have a intelligent conversation.
Posted on Aug 12, 2013, 9:07 AM from IP address 184.108.40.206
You sure seem defensive....likely because you are or have been a referee. And you should be commended for that. But your view is biased the wrong way...this game isn't for the referees. It's for the kids. Yes, we need referees to make it happen, but we also need kids. It's funny, I had a former Zone President say to me "it's better to have bad refs rather than none at all". I couldn't disagree more strongly. Bad referees get people hurt and lead to us losing kids from the game.
As for the 5 year old kid who high sticks someone while trying to knock the ball out of a stick I have no problem giving him 5 mins and if contact is severe enough 5 and a game. He needs to learn to control his stick - what better time than at 5 years old? By the time the lumberjacks are Bantam or Midget age, the habit is irreversible. Nip it in the bud. Teach him to cross check first. Teach him to control his stick when stick checking. But absolutely DON'T give him a free pass because he's only 5.
In terms of having a better view than the ref from the stands or bench..sometimes that's true. But sometimes it's obviously the other way around. But when it comes to high sticks, especially the ones that contact the helmet as opposed to the neck, you don't need a great viewpoint. You just need to be able to identify the disctinct sound a helmet makes when whacked with a lacrosse stick. And if you've been around the game any length of time, you should know the sound.
Lastly, the clinics don't mean much if a week or a month later the ref forgets the material or is too gun-shy to make the calls that already exist. And I see that a lot. Refs properly positioned to make a call just can't seem to get that heavy whistle up to their lips to blow it. And sometimes in discussions about the rules it becomes clear they have a very narrow understanding and thus are looking for something very specific when I don't think that's how rules should be interpreted. For example, when asked why only a 5-min call was made on a terribly viscious headshot this year, the ref said there had to be intent to injure to warrant 5 and a game. Sadly, that's not what the rule book says. He also said "I'm not kicking a kid out for that hit". But it met all the criteria - it was a charge, it was boarding, it was full extension with no deceleration (it didn't bounce off the shoulder first) contact to the head. If it didn't warrant the expulsion, then I guess nothing does, which is kind of my point. In spite of the lip service about it being a point of emphasis, it isn't.
And to your point about the 5 year olds...well, presumably he's playing against 5 year olds and the evidence coming out (which hockey and football have gleaned onto) is that the damage from a concussion to a developing brain is a much bigger concern than if the brain is fully developed. Which is NOT meant to imply concussions for any brain are not a concern - they are. But we need to be even more careful with youngsters. So my final salvo would be that despite the fact these refs you refer to love the game and aren't in it to become filthy rich, they still have a job to do. And they need to do it. And the supervisors need to make sure they do it (and that's a whole other post that I will get to at a later date).
Posted on Aug 12, 2013, 11:08 AM from IP address 220.127.116.11
Well it is funny that sound, I remember a game that I did referee in the tyke provincals. One player went for the ball and missed the stick and hit the head. The player that got hit was hurt. I had parents and coaches screaming. After the coach had the player back to his bench i walk over to the coach who was still chewing at me and I called him over. I said to him, I have no issue calling a penalty, but I would hate to do that to your team, I told him it was his player that hit his other player. He stopped looked at me and said "oh sorry"
I agree with you that the serious hits should warrant major penalties with suspensions, but to say that any head contact should warrant a suspension, it depends on the situation. Due to the physical nature of the game of lacrosse along with the speed, referees need to be on top of their game, and they need to be in proper position, and the hope is that the senior referees will take care of that. The unfortunate thing is that there are a lot of people out there that like to complain about the refs, but my question is will they be taking a clinic next year to referee. I would hope so.
Posted on Aug 12, 2013, 3:18 PM from IP address 18.104.22.168
I'd like to say Congratulations to the Owen Sound PeeWee Northstars for getting the Silver medal in the B division despite all they had been through. Thank you to West Durham for making it known to the OLA that they had made a horrible mistake. You boys and your families showed a lot of dedication and love of the game!!
Posted on Aug 6, 2013, 9:18 AM from IP address 22.214.171.124
After playing out our games we were in a 3 way tie and told that we were eliminated. Our team all headed back home...3 hrs. After the Quarter finals were played out that afternoon between Oakville and West Durham we were informed that the calculations were done incorrectly and we were actually the first place team. Our team than had to turn around and come back that next day and play out the quarter finals (which we won), the semi finals(which we won) and carry onto the finals (which we lost) May have been a different situation had we not played 3 games that day while the other team only played 2 and didn't have to get up at 5 am to get back to Whitby.
Taught us a lesson to always do our own math but you really wonder how the OLA could screw that up!!
Posted on Aug 7, 2013, 12:58 PM from IP address 126.96.36.199
and the OLA is full of people, it is not some sort of robotic entity....decent hard working people like you, but apparently not like you because they make mistakes and you don't or so you would have everyone believe...on the upside I am sure the good volunteers that help to make sure our children get to play lacrosse are ecstatic to learn that you will be there front and centre next year to make sure all gets done, mistake free....good for you Shelley
Posted on Aug 7, 2013, 1:59 PM from IP address 188.8.131.52
These are Provincial Championships. They mean something. The parents and players that were put in the disadvantageous situation that they were have a legitimate beef. To respond so sarcastically just indicates that YOU don't get it. Perhaps you were one of the volunteers that screwed up, perhaps not.
The point is, given the stakes, and given the consequences (some team leaving early and driving 3 hours and then having to come back, etc.) these calculations should be double and triple checked independently. And now Owen Sound (and the rest of us) have certainly received that warning loud and clear. And yes Owen Sound should have crunched the numbers themselves ( I don't trust anyone to run any #s....I always do them myself and compare with someone else). But the powers that be need to put controls and procedures in place to make sure stuff is done right, otherwise why bother doing any of it at all? Let's just cancel the Festival and go easy on the volunteers, eh?
How moronic can one get.........
Posted on Aug 7, 2013, 3:15 PM from IP address 184.108.40.206
it got a response from Shelley and in it she said what could have been added to her original post, simply a kind word about those involved that did so much for them when they returned...volunteers work hard to make things happen for our children and not just in Lacrosse....stuff doesn't just happen someone makes it happen and they will make mistakes....chastising them on here and the other forum won't fix what happened nor will more procedures and controls but they may help to minimize mistakes, or so we should hope....the sarcasm in my post aside I didn't yell at her nor did I call her names and I put my name to it.....I get it, it's provincials...still just a game, win or lose the sun will come up tomorrow and it will still take all of us to keep the world going....Cheers
Posted on Aug 8, 2013, 12:03 AM from IP address 220.127.116.11
I'm pretty damn sure that no where in there did I say that I didn't make mistakes! Just saying that this is Provincials and after the stats were figured out, they should have been double-checked! Like I said, it did teach us a lesson to figure numbers ourselves.
I dealt with a couple very nice ladies who did everything they could to accommodate us and if I could have found them around the office on Sunday I would have given them a big hug as I'm sure it was just as stressful on them as it was on us!
Posted on Aug 7, 2013, 3:40 PM from IP address 18.104.22.168
Plain and simple ....The biggest mistake made during this episode was made by the coaching staff.They should have verified the math.With my team ,I am not even in the dressing room and I already know the scenarios.
Everyone makes mistakes .The OLA was accountable (finally ,for something) and fixed their mistake as best they could.
The coach will never make this mistake again. Live and learn.....
Posted on Aug 7, 2013, 5:42 PM from IP address 22.214.171.124
My understanding was that they used all 3 of our games and not just the head to head games so it was a calculation error.
As I said, we will definitely always do the math ourselves if it ever comes down to this situation again. Lesson learned!
Posted on Aug 8, 2013, 9:38 AM from IP address 126.96.36.199
In Tyke A, 7/8 top MyLax teams advanced to the quarter finals. MyLax has proven itself as a very effective tool in rating teams. Also, it does appear the new qualifier format has achieved the goal of obtaining the best 6 teams while cutting the number of games in almost half. Only four of the six top MyLax Bantam A teams qualified. However, KW was "underrated" on MyLax due to significant injuries. One of the Bantam A divisions in the qualifier came within a whisker of a four way tie for first at 5-2. That would have been a very tough way to be eliminated. Perhaps, consideration could be given to advancing 8 teams per age group. The lowest ranked team to make the top 6 was the midget Burlington Chiefs at #10. Overall, no real surprises. Kudos to the16th rated Milton pee wee team that came within one goal of advancing to the final 6.
Posted on Aug 5, 2013, 6:14 PM from IP address 188.8.131.52
I think it is much better. Although, I am not sure how that can be proved. MyLax is an objective measure of a teams ability. It is not perfect but it is the best I have ever seen in my experience. One way it can be evaluated is to look at what happens when the OLA veers off the rankings. I found the OLA final rankings were even closer to the MyLax rankings this year than last year. It appears they are gaining confidence in them.
Posted on Aug 5, 2013, 11:47 PM from IP address 184.108.40.206
The rankings are better IMHO. However, more could be done.
First the deadline for ratings is artificial and has more to do with easing the workload on volunteers and meeting print deadlines than doing what should be done. If this were pushed back the bubble teams (between divisions) would have more time to sort themselves out. Some teams had as much as a 4 position change from final ratings to week 12 ratings. The schedules are templates so changing a name should not cause any issues. with a few exceptions, the festival programs get trashed within 6 months. Time to go electronic or come up with another solution. It's supposed to be about the game, not the printers.
Second, shrink the pools to 12 teams. This will narrow the gap between first and last team in a pool and make the entire pool more competitive. 12 team pool, 3 groups of 4, top team in each and the overall wild card move on. Nothing new with that format.
Third, don't allow a team to simply opt out of "A". Force them to go through the appeals process like everyone else. Or disqualify them from provincials. If your going to use the tool, use it consistently across all levels, period.
Fourth, amend the appeals process to allow appeals to be done via conference calls. The physical location is prohibitive to all clubs but those in the GTA. The cost of an appeal when factoring in time, fuel, hotel (for some) and the actual price of the appeal punishes small and remote clubs. The O in OLA is for Ontario, comments from executive and staff: "oh, your geographically challenged" has to stop and the OLA has to make that happen.
just my 2 cents.
Posted on Aug 30, 2013, 12:23 PM from IP address 220.127.116.11
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Posted on Aug 5, 2013, 12:23 AM from IP address 18.104.22.168
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Posted on Aug 5, 2013, 12:07 AM from IP address 22.214.171.124