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Guelph Intermediate?

by laxfan (Login Canada_Lax)

Any info on them? How do they look so far this year?

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Re: Guelph Intermediate?

by Tristan (Login radicallacrosse)

Sorry, can't give you numbers, but I can tell you that they are beatable. If you get under their skin, they will take stupid penalties. Their goaltending isn't that strong, and they play o/d, but don't really have a fast transition game. In saying that, they can beat you down the floor. They do have a pretty fast team. Their face-off guy is unbelievably good, and they have a couple of shooters on their team.

Any information on Wallaceburg would be appreciated.

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Re: Guelph Intermediate?

by Tristan (Login radicallacrosse)

Actually here are the numbers of the guys you have to watch on Guelph:

#4
#15

They are a well balanced scoring team.

#7 is prone to taking stupid penalties.

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Re: Guelph Intermediate?

by (Login acesman)

Yes they are beatable, they run a decent fast break and rely heavily on outside shots, not a fancy offense, but they have managed to get the job done in Zone 8 so they shouldn't be underestimated.

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Wallceburg

by lax087 (Login lax087)

Wallceburg is really weak team this year, have 2 good players but they dont do much, just look good compared to there other players

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brockville vs beaches int

by (Login curtise6)

they have played twice and thier was some chippy stuff after the second game who would win in the tie breaker???

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Beaches have more scoring power Brockville has better goal tending

by Gary (Login kemplen)

Based on the two games I think the Beaches would come out on top they have more depth in scoring , however Brockville has better goal tending.

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Clarington (Dan Greer) Tournament Schedule / Results

by Gary Mark (Login marksy)

I have had a commitment made that these will be updated over the weekend.

http://lacrosseinsidethegame.com/2008/07/18/dan-greer-clarington-memorial-tournament/

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Results

by DS (Login dcsm)

A few changes in the schedule. Game 1 Clarington beat Sarnia 15 or 16 to 1.
Fergus beat Orangeville 4 to 3 (great game!)

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Novice A groupings

by lax427 (Login lax427)

Just saw the provincials groups and once again the OLA hasn't done their homework. They have 5 of the 6 top teams in one group giving Clarington a pretty easy run to the semi's. They put Orangeville, Peterborough, Whitby, Missisauga and Burlington together. No disrespect to Halton, Oakville, St. Kitts and Guelph but they will not compete with Clarington who will have no troubles. The other group will be a battle and they play three games in one day to boot!

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Re: Novice A groupings

by ruukie (Login ruukie)

5 of the top 6 are not in 1 group. There are only 3 "A" elite teams, Clarington, Whitby, & Burlington.
Orangeville & ST. Kitts are 2nd tier with little chance. The remaining teams are all about equal with no chance of winning. Group 1 has 2 of the top 5, & group 2 has 3.
The group 2 winner will have a much easier semi final than Clarington who will have to play either Whitby or Burlington in the semis.


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Lol

by elissa briggs (Login lax758)

This 2nd post to the original says the exact same thing as my post, which was the 3rd. I had no idea the 2nd post was being written at the same time, but they obviously know what they are talking about, as we posted the exact same thing !!!!!!

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you are wrong

by elissa briggs (Login lax758)

St. Kitts is probably the 4th or 5th best team with orangeville; although st.kitts beat burlington this year. Not a whole lotta difference between Peterborough,guelph,halton hills,oakville, and Missy. The top 3 teams will beat
all of them. By putting Clarington only in with St. Kitts, when they cross-over
in the semis, they will play either whitby or burlington; very smart thinking
by the OLA. Clarington will ultimately have to beat both burlington and clarington on the sunday to win the provincials; whereas the team that finishes 1st in whitby/burlington's division will have a much easier game in the semis
against more than likely St.Kitts.

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Groupings - Right On

by lacrossemania (Login lacrossemania)

The OLA has done a great job with these groups. Clarington will have a tougher
final day as they will have to play 1 of the top 3 in the semis with cross-over and 1 of the top 3 in the finals; that is what comes with being rated #1. Unless a major catastrophe happens, burlington and whitby will finish 1-2 in the other group, and whoever finishes 1st will have a much easier semi-final, before having to playing 1 of the top 3 in the final; probably clarington. Missy just beat Orangeville last night at the clarington tournament. St. Kitts is the legit
#4, but you could almost put any of the other teams there too, as they are all
pretty even and depends on who is better that day. St.Kitts is the only one to beat 1 of the top 3 this season. They beat burlington, although it was after their star player's injury.

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Re: Groupings - Right On

by O (Login ovillelax1)

No one can say St kitts is 4th, they finally show up to an A tourney and let in 11 in game 1 and 13 in game 2. Whitby and clarington have not scored double digits against Halton or missy or Orangevile etc...
St kitts may be A bit letting in 23 goals in there first 2 real A games doesn't put them in the top 4

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Re: Groupings - Right On

by O (Login ovillelax1)

St kitts wasn't the only other team to beat Burlington when 7 was out, Orangeville did 5-2 in Owen sound tourney


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Re: Groupings - Right On

by lacrossemania (Login lacrossemania)

St Kitts beat burlington when 7 was playing, unlike orangeville
who only beat burlington when 7 was not playing; Big difference !!!!

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Huh?

by Abused fan (Login krashr)

Didn't you say in a previous post "They beat Burlington, although it was after their star player's injury."? Now you are saying they beat them with him? What is it?

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Re: Huh?

by lacrossemania (Login lacrossemania)

With Him !!!!!

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something is wrong here

by SMITHLAX (Login SMITHLAX)

after 1st qualifiers, I feel its anybodies game, Six Nations has played against many of these teams and beat them, although they are 3-3 so far @ qualifiers, lets not forget them in any of your ratings, last time I checked they were ranked 6th. They have been back and forth with Burlington all year, have beatin St. Catherines all year, and have tied and destroyed Whitby @ the McCauly tourny in Brampton. It is strange to me that Nations is left out, every team has good games and bad games, they beat peterboro in McCauly, then get hammered by petes @ qualifiers, go figure... like I said still anybodies game....

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Wrong age group

by Abused fan (Login krashr)

This string is about Novice teams.

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Re: Groupings - Right On

by GB (Login golax1)

I know Orangeville liked beating us, but we took it to them in Clarington 11-4. That was with 'him' and a much more developed team around 'him'. Just so people know we were still missing 2 of our top players in the Dan Greer. Provincials will be fun!
FYI You can through a blanket around the teams that are behind the Big 3. Provincials will have some very balanced and fun games to watch. Great to see that there are 10 A teams!
'To be the best you have to play the best'

GB

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Re: Groupings - Right On

by laxxy (Login lax1414)

Your two players were back for the final game and well rested as it was their first game of the weekend. Stop making excuses, accept defeat and enjoy the games left to play. You are making a fool of yourself and your team and I'm sure your other parents wouldn't want to be a part of this.

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No Fooling

by GB (Login golax1)

You must be the same person on 98-2...the infamous 'I've talked to all the parents guy' It is amazes me that you know our roster so well, because they were definetely NOT there! I am glad you take so much pride in beating a tired team! What a winner!! Would you not rather see two teams that are rested and full rostered...maybe you are worried of the outcome?!!!?

GB

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Re: No Fooling

by laxxy (Login lax1414)

I looked throughout the forum and can't find 98-2 so maybe you can help us out on what the heck you are talking about. I really don't see how you came to the conclusion that I like to see tired kids play and get beat and why you seem to be so angry. What I do know is that you played Clarington for your first game of the weekend, on Friday night, and did not come out with a different outcome. I don't believe being tired has much to do with it. I also don't worry too much about losing as everyone loses eventually and the only real losers are the parents that can't accept it and believe that winning is everything. Right now, the provincial gold is still up for grabs and can go to any of the top teams. What has happened in past games means very little when it comes to the final weekend. Hopefully all teams will play their best and all teams (including) parents can win or lose with sportsmanship (no matter how tired the players are.) I really think you should move on for you and your son's sake and enjoy the exciting games ahead. This is a forum for positive comments and not parent negativity.

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Re: Novice A / Groupings Right On

by laxfan (Login lacrossemania)

Agreed completely. #1 team should have a tougher road to win it all, to prove they are really the best.

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disagree

by lax1414 (Login lax1414)

I have to disagree. The #1 team should not have to play the two toughest games on Sunday with #2 or 3 have the easier route. The benefits of being #1 is to have the easier route into the finals otherwise you can have a tired #1 team and the best team may not necessarily win. I'm sure if they had the choice, Clarington would switch with Burlington or Whitby.

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Re: disagree

by GB (Login golax1)

A tired team...are you for real!!! Both Burlington and Whitby had the potential to have a 3 game day for the Sunday in the Dan Greer tourney. It ended up being Burlington playing a fresh Clarington...you got your wish there!!!! Had Burlington not had to play that schedule, it may have been a different outcome for the finals.
REMEMBER it was 3-2 going in to third and that was with Burlington hitting 9 posts and or crossbars. They finally ran out of gas...not an excuse just reality.
I want to see a rested team play a rested team with all their stars playing...that should be in provincials and we will see the true champions. To speculate on who that will be is disrespecting the top teams!
Just my point of view!

GB

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Re: disagree

by lax1414 (Login lax1414)

Burlington didn't have 9 shots on net by the third period and the only reason Clarington had only 3 goals was due to the amazing goaltending. Was Burlington tired Friday night as well when the 7-5 score flattered what the score could have been? And how and why would you compare the Dan Greer tournament to Provincials. The only reason you played 3 games on Sunday was due to the weather/leaky arena mess and the fact that you didn't come first. In the Provincials, Clarington can come first and have the harder schedule. If they win great but if they lose, it will be accepted and not on here whinning and complaining of reasons for losing. No matter what happened in the last tournament, there should be some great games and there is no sure winner at this time....favourite yes, but not a sure winner.

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Re: disagree

by HL (Login lax1414)

What do you mean "you got your wish"? Clarington had the hardest schedule in RRplay and was the only team that went 3 - 0. That is good lax play not good wishing. Their "wish" was to have two hard games on Sunday for provincial prep as that was what this tournament was all about. In case you were unaware, this tournament was put in after the tournament schedule was out, because there was a large gap with little game play and teams wanted to keep in tune for provincials. You need to chill and just enjoy watching your son play a great game.

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Lacrosse Cares Head Shaving - HUGE SUCCESS!

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A quick note to let you know that the Lacrosse Cares Head Shaving Event to support Troy Henry who is currently battling cancer happened last night. We raised over $8,000 with funds still coming in. 100% of proceeds will benefit the R.S. McLaughlin Durham Regional Cancer Centre. A special thanks to Chatters Hair Salon in Oshawa for shaving over 40 heads! Thanks to all the volunteers and a HUGE THANK YOU to every child who had the courage to get their head shaved and help fight cancer.Our Community, Our Cancer Centre. www.theohf.com
Carolyn

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2nd Qualifier Schedule?

by cdnlaxrules (Login gaels8)

Does anyone know when the schedule is supossed to be posted for the 2nd week of qualifiers in Whitby?

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It's Up!

by Ryan Dowdall (Login r_dowdall)

On the OLA site.

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All I want to say is....

by molyre (Login Molyre)

I never grew up playing this game, but my kids got into and and you know what ?

I LOVE THIS GAME !!!!



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well...

by Jimmy (Login jimmylax)

it certainly is a special game. Too bad more kids wouldn't ditch the soccer ball/spring hockey BS and pick up a stick.

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Intermediate A Provincial Schedule / Predictions

by Gary (Login kemplen)

The schedule is out and it looks like some tough first round match ups.

Spartan versus Brampton predicted winner Brampton

Clarington versus Orilla predicted winner Clarington

Orangeville versus the Beaches predicted winner Beaches

Burlington versus Newmarket predicted winner Burlington

Peterborough versus Halton Hills predicted winner Peterborough

Brockville versus Oakville predicted winner upset brockville

either Orangeville or halton Hills will come out of the loser bracket final winner this year in A ball wll be the Beaches

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Intermediate B prognostications.

by neverlaxed (Login neverlaxed)

6Nay/Athur #1 - winner 6Nay
London/Mimico - winner London
Cambridge/Fort Erie - winner Cambridge
Whitby/Owen Sound - best game of the first round, two of the top four playing off in first game, whitby gets the nod.
Missi/Guelp - winner Missi
St. Kitts/Windsor - St. Kitts they're good at putting teams off their game.
Kitchener/Hamilton #1 - winner Hamilton

Kahnawake gets the short 4 game route or 6 games through back door to the final.

Everyone else takes 5 games through the front door or 7 games through the back door.

I'm not going to even guess who'll be playing on Sunday, it will come down to who has fewest injuries and least amount of suspensions.

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INTERMEDIATE C SCHEDULE AND PREDICTIONS

by Gary (Login kemplen)



The OLA in their wisdom scheduled the teams travelling the greatest distances first round byes this is a great decision and allows these teams to make it into the second day helps offset the great distances and a very long bus ride.

Teams with first round byes.

Kempville
Gloucester
Nepean
Sault St. Marie
Sudbury

first round match ups

Hamilton 2 versus Barrie predicted winner Barrie
Arthur 2 versus Newmarket 2 predicted winner Newmarket 2
Stayner versus Fergus winner Fergus
wallaceburg versus Toronto Stars predicted winner Wallaceburg
Midland versus Brantford predicted winner Midland
Sub County versus NOTL predicted winner NOTL
Halton Hills 2 versus Huntsville predicted winner Huntsville
Cornwall versus Markham predicted winner Cornwall

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Re: INTERMEDIATE C SCHEDULE AND PREDICTIONS

by Tristan (Login radicallacrosse)

Hamilton 2 versus Barrie predicted winner Hamilton 2
Arthur 2 versus Newmarket 2 predicted winner Arthur 2
Stayner versus Fergus winner Fergus
Wallaceburg versus Toronto Stars predicted winner Toronto Stars
Midland versus Brantford predicted winner Midland
Sub County versus NOTL predicted winner NOTL
Halton Hills 2 versus Huntsville predicted winner Halton Hills 2
Cornwall versus Markham predicted winner Markham

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Re: Intermediate A Provincial Schedule / Predictions

by Hahaha (Login FEhawks72)

QUOTE"Spartan versus Brampton predicted winner Brampton"
not a chance. spartan is gonna get rocked. spartan will just chirp brampton. spartan are terrible sports. brampton is way more disciplined.

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Zone 10 Int: Team Mitt 6 - O'Ville 3 (nm)

by int.fan (Login quikstik_12)

nm

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Provincial Schedule

by fan (Login dugoutfan)

Are posted on the OLA website


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Zone 10 scores from oakville....

by tbone16 (Login tbone16)

Just three quick ones from Oakville this week...

Midget II, Oakville 8, Mimico 1

Bantam II, Oakville 7, Mimico 3 (a boring, slow, brutal game by both teams, definitely a July lull)

Novice I, Orangeville 6, Oakville 5 (kudos to Oakville for their tourney win in Vancouver this past weekend, going 5-2 and winning the B final, and also for a very exciting game tonight, close all the way)

Better go close the car windows....

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Benefit game a huge success

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This past Tuesday evening The Mimico Midget 1 Rep team played host the Metening the Mimico Midget 1 rep team played host to the Metro Toronto Police Tinmen.

A great night was had by all with the Tinmen scoring late for a 9-8 come from behind win.It was a fantastic celebration of the game between the youth of the area and Metro's finest.

Thanks to all who attended and a special thanks to the Mimico Junior B's for all their help even though they had to play in Oakville on the same night. The Mimico Minor organization for their help, all of the volunteers for their time, and a big thankyou goes out to Dan Dawson who put smiles on alot of faces.

We were able to raise somewhere in the neighbourhood of $1,000.00 for the Brain Injury Association of Peel/Halton . Once the final totals are in, I will post along with some pictures on www.mimicolacrosse.com

All agree that it will hopefully become an annual event.


Yours in Lacrosse,

Rob Hastings

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Toronto City Cup

by 1Lax (Login 1Lax)

Hosted by the Rock.
Mimico 1 Novice, Peewee & Bantam vs Beaches 1 Novice, Peewee & Bantam. Club with most wins wins the cup. Mimico Novice & Peewee won - Mimico wins the City Cup.
But...interesting that Beaches1 Bantam team beat Mimico 1!
http://www.torontorock.com/index.php?module=newser&func=display&nid=405

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Intermediate Schedule-posted July 18,2008

by Gary (Login kemplen)

It is my understanding that the intermediate schedule will be issued tomorrow , it will be interesting to see if the brain trust at the OLA takes into consideration the teams performances in the tournaments to seed the top teams so that we do not see tournament favorites going head to head in the first round.

It is hard to determine the actual rankings but I can offer up my impression of the first six and then the second six.

A Division:
(alpha rankings)
1. Brampton
2. Brockville
3. Burlington
4. Clarington
5. Newmarket
6. Halton Hills
7. Oakville
8. Orangeville
9. Orilla
10.Peterborough
11.Spartan
12.Toronto beaches


Top Six:(in no order)
Peterborough
Brampton
Beaches
Halton Hills
Orangeville
Spartan

Bottom Six(in no order)
Orilla
Oakville
Newmarket
Clarington
Burlington
Brockville

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Re: Intermediate Schedule-posted July 18,2008

by (Login BTender30)

no offence to brampton or anything, but i wouldn't put them in the top 6. having seen burlington beaten them twice before this year. but i'm not saying burlington is in the top 6 either. i just don't think brampton should be there. perhaps there are only top 5? iunno, just my opinion there

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no offense taken

by lcrssmommy (Login lcrssmommy)

I agree not necessarily an A team -the only A team they have beaten todate is Orangeville.

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wow

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well thats a great feat to do i guess. not alot of teams have beaten orangeville this year. haltons hills, peterborough. burlington at 1 pt in a game.

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inter "A"

by Darryll Black (Login dgb020780)

i think you need to look at orillia being put in the top 6 - they beat spartan and brampton, lost to the beach by 1 with only ten runners and they played really well at the conradi tourney - they just need a few more runners and i heard they were going to use some midgets

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yea, i dig it

by big lax guy (Login BTender30)

mhm, sounds good. i can see it.

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Or.....

by Int fan (Login intfan)

Pull down a third of the tornado roster much like barrie did last year.

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midgets?

by why (Login extremelax)

Why do they need to use midgets, where are their regular intermediate players? Don't they have like 30 players?

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INT Peterborough 8 Whitby 5

by Tsitshoh (Login tsitshoh)

She:kon!

Good game last night in Whitby with the Lakers outscoring the Warriors 3-1 in the 3rd to take it.  Fairly even game up until the Lakers pulled away.  Lakers went up 5-4 with a last second goal in the 2nd period after being down 2-0 after the 1st.

Some shenanigans, but nothing major.  Both teams played a fast & evenly paced game.

Skennen

...Tsitshoh...



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This Week In Lacrosse # 23

by Gary Mark (Login marksy)

A big thanks to the Thunder Bay Ice Peewees for this weeks intro...

http://lacrosseinsidethegame.com/2008/07/17/this-week-in-lacrosse-episode-23/

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Zone 9 INT Playoffs

by MG7 (Login MG07)

any results from any of the teams?

hamilton 1 barely hung on to beat nations 7-6 (their normal tender is still hurt from conradi and they had the midget backup in net, he played quite well).

i think i read spartan 13-3 over burlington (what happened there?)

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Re: Zone 9 INT Playoffs

by lax (Login jmac66)

are the playoffs set up where top 2 move on to a best 2 of 3 series???

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Re: Zone 9 INT Playoffs

by MG7 (Login MG07)

yeah, pretty sure that's what it'll be. maybe 3 of 5 but likely not.

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Re: Zone 9 INT Playoffs

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well. it started with a minimal amount of players...and starting off with the rookie goalie, and not the goalie who is sieked to play. so it was 13-3 i was guessing 12, but who cares. games done, spartan beat us slightly fair, and morely square. Burlington coach partialy to blame to. i just want to put that out there.
burlington is play hamilton 1 on tuesday. guessing spartan is play six nations tuesday aswell. and its going who ever has the most wins after playing each team once, goes for the finals, which i don't know how that goes.

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on thursday

by steve (Login laxguy09)

nations plays spratan on thursday at the gaylord powless arena thats from theis web site.. this will be a good game if nations goalie is bang on that night spartan may have some trouble

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Re: on thursday

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Does anyone think Hamilton 1 has a chance in these Zone 9 Int playoffs?

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Re: on thursday

by (Login BTender30)

not to win it, but to cause trouble, o for sure. and thats a big enough part in its own

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Re: on thursday

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Hamilton 1 is 1-1 with Burlington, 1-1-1 with Spartans and 3-0 against Six Nations, so why is everyone discounting Hamilton as a possible Zone 9 winner this year? Is there something others know about them?

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Re: on thursday

by LAX (Login Blahman10)

F.E Beat N.O.T.L- 8-2.
it was 8-0 with 1:20 left.


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Re: on thursday

by (Login FEhawks72)

ya they got a quick 2 becuz of my own penalty so those 2 goals were technically my fault

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Peewee goalies

by TOLAX (Login TOLAX10)

I can only speek on peewee goalis. The top teams in pewwee all have strong goalis.
Clarington goalie is fast. Brampton has a big goalie that is solid. Burlington and Orangeville both have great stoppers. Six Nations goalie is one of the top kids in the game. Would love top have whitby's problem they have too verry good goalis.
I would not want to face any of them.
Thats why we play in B, if I had anyone of them, we would be playing A ball.

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TO as in Beaches?

by Coach (Login kerryblue41)

are you with the Beaches?

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NO

by TOLAX (Login TOLAX10)

NO

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Why would you insult your team?

by Int fan (Login intfan)

Wheres the need for that? I never understood how a parent/coach can come on here and insult their own team, espeacily at Peewee! Honestly grow up.

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Heard..

by Keeper3 (Login keeper3)

I heard that 6 Nations, and Sarnia have good Novice goalies. Haven't seen them.

Any thoughts?





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Re: Heard..

by Wally (Login teamsandwich)

Good Question!
Do you consider a top goalie in Novice a goalie that stops a high percentage of shots because a) he wears OVERSIZED equipment (#2 or #3's) or b) he wears the proposed standard (#1's) equipment.
For me I like the Orangeville goalie, not big by any stretch of the imagination and stops a lot of balls with his athleticism.
Goalie equipment size has always been a big issue and apparantly the OLA is going to a number system next year.......will it help, I hope so because there are some LARGE novice goalies out there.

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Re: Heard..

by Int fan (Login intfan)

If the smaller pads were made more protective you'd see alot more small goalies in novice. Fact is when your that young the ball hurts, alot, I wouldn't fault a parent of novice goalie for going out and buy the padding that offers the best protection. If STX took stock of what boddam is putting they'd realise size is only a 3rd of what boddam offers, they also offer the highest quality and most protective equipment on the market. Instead they continue to produce the same under padded crap with different shoulder caps each season.

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Equipment

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Equipment is made to protect.

If a goalie isn't fitted properly in equipment provided for them in the proper "number" system, what is goalie to do?

Wait, perhaps they shouldn't play because they are to big to wear the proper equipment. If the goalie is a big boy, then the equipment they wear will be "conforming to the body".

Yes small goalies wearing #2 padding will look like it, but goalies that are larger, have to wear it to be protected.

I can name some examples.

I in particular have two goalies:

Tyke: 4'7" 63 lbs
Novice: 5'0" 135 lbs or so.

Some goalies that even wear the "big" equipment can't move and still play bad, and allow goals.

I've ran many goaltender clinics, and this is the first thing I do, is look at the equipment to see if the goalies are protected.

Hope to see everyone at the rinks...

Martin, from the Nations is a great goalie...I agree.

Little Tyke goalie from Wallaceburg is a good goalie as well.



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Re: Heard..

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Novice #1 goalie?

I really thought the #2 goalie was really athletic as well.



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Goalies?

by Keeper3 (Login keeper3)

Who are the top goaltenders in each division?

If Whitby has a top goaltender for Intermediate, who are the others?

Tyke, Novice, PW, Bantam, Midget?

What goaltenders have you all faced, that surprized you?



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Re: Goalies?

by Alex (Login eggo30)

The 6 nations goalie in bantam called Martin is exeptional

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Re: Goalies?

by laxer parent (Login laxerboi)

the two tenders for missy in Midget seem very strong, and they completely took me by surprise for what their size is.

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Re: Goalies?

by Int fan (Login intfan)

Halton is the only other stand out tender in INT, Thats Nic not the other one.

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Re: Goalies?

by VanillaLax (Login VanillaLax)

I would say St Kitts Goalie Eric Fannell is best in Bantam

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Re: Goalies?

by 1Lax (Login 1Lax)

ok...Mom

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Burlington

by Snipeshow (Login Chiefs123)

I've played against aswell as watched the Burlington Chiefs bantam goalie, he is phenominal, although he gets penalties sometimes he is still probably in contention for one of the top 10 in bantam, no doubt.

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Re: Goalies?

by (Login laxMe)

Ok..MOM....hahahah...this is not his mom but nice try!!!!

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Re: Goalies?

by Lax2Lax2 (Login Lax2Lax2)

LMFAO VanillaLax is not Fannell's mom Lmfao but that was a good one....

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Re: Goalies?

by laxboi7 (Login laxboi7)

he has a great stick, no doubt about that.

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Re: Goalies?

by CrazeeLaxMan (Login CrazeeLaxMan)

Wouldn't, technically, the goalies playing for Team O be the best?
You forgot that kid from Guelph who's peewee age but playing bantam A.

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Re: Goalies?

by laxguy (Login laxguy1234)

Whoever said the Burlington goalie probably plays on the team or is the goalie bu his user name Chiefs 123 although the Burlington goalie is really good

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Intermediate Provincial Rankings

by Gary (Login kemplen)


Based on the Conradi it looks like for the most part the A rankings are correct except in the case of Whitby. I think th eprovincials will be a great tournament the winners will not be Halton Hills or the beach who do you think will win.

A Division:
(alpha rankings)
1. Brampton
2. Brockville
3. Burlington
4. Clarington
5. Newmarket
6. Halton Hills
7. Oakville
8. Orangeville
9. Orilla
10.Peterborough
11.Spartan
12.Toronto beaches


Beaches Beaches 6 Six Nations 4 4-1
Beaches 11 Fort Erie 2
Beaches 10 Newmarket 2 0
Beaches 7 Brockville 4
Halton Hills 7 Beaches 3 A Final

Brampton Brampton 10 NOTL 0 3-2
Brampton 10 Markham 1
Brampton 8 Fort Erie 2
Brockville 3 Brampton 2
Peterborough 6 Brampton 3 B Final

Brockville Brockville 3 Brampton 2 4-0
Brockville 13 Markham 0
Brockville 8 NOTL 1
Brockville 3 Brampton 2

Clarington Clarington 7 Halton Hills 6 2-2
Clarington 4 Hamilton 2
Newmarket 11 Clarington 4
Peterborough 6 Clarington 2

Fort Erie Fort Erie 5 Newmarket 2 1-2-1
Fort Erie 6 Six Nations 6
Beaches 11 Fort Erie 2
Brampton 8 Fort Erie 2

Halton Hills 7 Hamilton 5 5-0
Halton Hills 10 Newmarket 4
Halton Hills 4 Orangeville 3
Halton Hills 8 Whitby 2
Halton Hills 7 Beaches 3 A Final

Hamilton Hamilton 8 Newmarket 3 1-4
Halton Hills 7 Hamilton 5
London 6 Hamilton 3
Clarington 4 Hamilton 2

London London 7 Burlington 2 4-0
London 6 Hamilton 3
London 13 Newmarket 4
London 7 Oakville 6

Markham Markham 3 NOTL 3 0-3-1
Brampton 10 Markham 1
Brockville 13 Markham 0
Six Nations 8 Markham 4


Mississauga Miss 3 St. Catharines 2 2-2
Mississauga 10 Cambridge 6
Oakville 6 Mississauga 3
Whitby 8 Mississsauga 2


Newmarket New 11 Clarington 4 2-2
Newmarket 5 Burlington 4
London 13 Newmarket 4
Six Nations 6 Newmarket 5

Newmarket 2 6 Six Nations 3 2-2
Newmarket 2 5 NOTL 4
Beaches 10 Newmarket 2 0
Hamilton 8 Newmarket 3

North Perth North Perth 5 Cambridge 3 1-3
Orillia 9 North Perth 3
Spartan 8 North Perth 0
Oakville 8 North Perth 1

Oakville Oakville 5 Orillia 4 3-1
Oakville 8 North Perth 1
Oakville 6 Mississauga 3
Spartan 7 Oakville 1

Orange Orangeville 3 Peterborough 2 3-1
Orangeville 6 Burlington 5
Orangeville 4 London 1
Halton Hills 4 Orangeville 3


Orillia Orillia 9 North Perth 3 3-1
Orillia 6 Spartan 5
Orillia 7 St. Catharines 2
Peterborough 4 Orillia 0

Peterb Peterborough 5 London 4 5-0
Peterborough 5 Burlington 3
Peterborough 6 Clarington 2
Peterborough 4 Orillia 0
Peterborough 6 Brampton 3 B Final


Six Na Six Nations 8 Markham 4 2-2
Six Nations 10 North Perth 4
Six Nations 6 Newmarket 5
Beaches 6 Six Nations 4

Spartan Spartan 7 Oakville 1 2-2
Spartan 8 North Perth 0
Orillia 6 Spartan 5
Whitby 6 Spartan 1

St. Ca St. Catharines 4 Whitby 2 2-2
St. Catharines 4 Cambridge 2
Orillia 7 St. Catharines 2
Mississauga 3 St. Catharines 2

Whitby Whitby 8 Mississsauga 2 3-1
Whitby 7 Cambridge 3
Whitby 6 Spartan 1
Halton Hills 8 Whitby 2


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Final Four

by Tsitshoh (Login tsitshoh)

She:kon!

I am pretty sure that it was Newmarket #2 that London pasted on Sunday morning. 

Anyways, just for fun, my final finish picks for Int A in the provincials:

1.  Peterborough - basically Lakers Jr. B.  Good thing Crough doesn't play for them!
2.  Beaches - have only seen results and hearsay, but they sound strong... lol
3.  Brockville - likely have the most desire to do well.  Played together for awhile?
4.  Clarington  - if their Jr B goalie can keep his mouth guard in; team play very important.
5.  Orangeville - strong as usual, could win it all under the right conditions. 
6.  Oakville - meh, so-so at McCaulay & so-so at Conradi.
7.  Orilla - fast, possession oriented, could go higher if they find the finish. 
8.  Halton Hills - won Conradi, so-so at Kazarian; will need key guys all weekend.
9.  Burlington - won Burman....against Brampton...
10. Spartan - good team that comes completely unglued when they are losing.
11. Brampton - lost both A games at Conradi, can they beat an A team this year?
12. Newmarket - should be 'B' no doubt about that.

I think we can say this team should be A or that team should be B but at three tourneys I have seen so far this year, once a team gets into the swing of it, they adjust their play.  Halton adjusted their play nicely on Sunday at Conradi and won.  I think the Provincials will be more of the same adjusting - for the most part it will come down to the second string guys making the difference.  In the teams I have seen, if those second string guys find their 'A' game and play well, any team in the top 8 above could win.

Skennen

...Tsitshoh...

 



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your close

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peter is basically markham junior B. clarington doesn't have a junior tender. and burlington didn't win burman, peterborough did against orangeville, burlington beat brampton in the bronze medal game. burlington came 2nd in the McCauley tourney, losing to orangeville. burlington also beat brampton to get there. so your close on your facts. other stuff i can agree on. also orangeville comes out pretty agressive when they are losing to, not so much as spartan tho.

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Re: your close

by Int fan (Login intfan)

You missed his point, he ment the Clarington tender should be a Junior B tender. I'am sure more will disagree then agree though

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hahaha

by big lax guy (Login BTender30)

haha shut up brock, i could have played junior to. getting the flu near the end of tryouts doesn't help your situation now does it. i think he meant to say junior C goalie, hahaha JK

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Re: hahaha

by Int fan (Login intfan)

Poor, Poor Marko, 20 and still can't read. I didn't agree or disagree did I. Hes obviously just an admirer, and their few and far between when you wear the green, white and black.

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Re: hahaha

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haha your jokes man.

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Re: hahaha

by guy (Login laxbuddeh)

who are you thisto whos that crough kid for that peterborough team? why is every lucky he sint playing

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Re: your close

by Tristan (Login radicallacrosse)

If the Gaels have a different goalie than the one that played in both games vs. us, then maybe. But the guy we played is definitely not a Jr. anything goalie.

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Re: your close

by Int fan (Login intfan)

Your right he def. isn't a junior goalie? know why? cause he's playing intermediate.Plus who acctualy trys against the stars?

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hmmm

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Oakville did not look strong in the conradi, halton hills should be higher up, brockville had nothing special going for them, burlington is a decent B team should be dead last in A ball or 2nd to last (lost to Spartan 13-3 yesterday), beaches is a top contendor for sure, orillia could be higher as they are a stronger team then oakville.

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wow, your really on the ball there

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first of all, your about half right. burlington is not a B team, so shut your mouth! Burlington beat both orillia and oakville, with a rookie back-up tender in net. and tied orillia once aswell. the 13-3 loss the other night was due to lack of players showing up because of short notice of playoff games, and a lack of smart coaching. which resulted in a poor loss for burlington. and wat ever team your on, i bet brockville can beat it, if you think they are nothing special. they will come out and kick your ass just like they did beaches in a tournament. caught them off guard they did and won it. so stop talking **** and just play the game man.

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Re: wow, your really on the ball there

by Int fan (Login intfan)

Congrats Marko, you just let him beat you....

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Re: Intermediate Provincial Rankings

by Lax_man (Login Lax_man25)

A small correction to your results. Halton Hills went 5-1 losing to Clarington in the round robin., not 5-0 as you have posted

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Whitby also lost to St. Kitts

by Baile (Login BaileyQuarters)

they went 3-2 for the tournament.

Whitby Whitby 8 Mississsauga 2 3-1
Whitby 7 Cambridge 3
Whitby 2 St. Kitts 4
Whitby 6 Spartan 1
Halton Hills 8 Whitby 2


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Whitby Coaches

by steve (Login ssleax08)

Whitby has and always will be a powehouse, That is do to their coaching.
Tyke 1 SW
Novice 1 JG Peewee 1 EP Peewee 2 RD Bantam 1 DK
Bantam 2 GM Bantam 3 JP Midget 1 JJ. On the girls side DL, JF
Look on their web sit if you don't no who I'm talking about
I was one of those peolpe that thought the grass was greener on the other side. Was I wrong.
With that list of great coaching Whitby futer is bright for a long long time

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Re: Whitby Coaches

by bob (Login xbobx15)

and the point of this post was what?

alot of organizations have great coaches.

Whitby just takes lacrosse a little more serious then other cities.

that region has always had a large populaton of lacrosse players, its easier for a city that gets that many players to choose from to do well.

I am amazed more with the very small centers that constantly put out quality teams year after year.

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Re: Whitby Coaches

by Int fan (Login intfan)

If whitby has such great coaching why did they have to put in place a No Release policy to stop players from leaving due to who was behind the bench?

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glad that was mentioned

by eggo (Login eggo44)

Good coaches, good teams, small centres and good coaches, make it that much more interesting..a no release policy...well that speaks for itself..

Eggo

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Conradi winner

by Sully27 (Login Sully27)

Halton 7-3

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What was the final score in the Halton Hills Beaches game at the conradi

by Gary (Login kemplen)

final score please

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Int Goalies

by Sully27 (Login Sully27)

Speaking of goalies, was everybody oblivious to the show that Halton's tender Nic Spence put on this weekend at the Conradi? 8 total goals against from the quarters all the way to the finals. Orangeville 3, Whitby 2 and the Beaches 3. When the topic of best tender arises, Nic is #1!

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Int Goalies

by Laxfan45 (Login Laxfan45)

Halton has a good goalie but there are a couple others out there that are just as good if not better. Peterborough, Orangeville, And Whitby.
dont know Orangeville or Peterboroughs Goalies names, but they put on quiet a show friday. Luke Coote for whitby is pretty strong in net two

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maybe a little bias....but

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that is one hell of a performance at the conradi!

As a coach, I'd take that kind of goaltending all the way to the bank!



Halton Hills Intermediate Lacrosse

Win the JR Award, live forever!



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Re: maybe a little bias....but

by Laxfan45 (Login Laxfan45)

Bias About what????

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not only am I from Halton....

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but I also started the Int. program. so i'm bias towards the team you see.....

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Provincial Champs

by Steve (Login ssleax08)

After the first week of Qualifiers things did not seem right, The cream will alway rise to the top

Peewee
Clarington just got lucky Newmarket and Bramptom will be gone in 2 weeks.
The top 3 teams in Pewwee in Order
1 - Whitby
2 - Burlington
3 - Six Nations

Bantam
Six Nattions, Whitby and Akweasane will fight it out in the end

Midget
Whitby will not lose a game They will be Provincial Champs

As much as people dislike Whitby
come August 17

PeeWee Whitby
Batam Whitby
Midget Whitby


Clean Sweep


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Please stay on your medication

by Gary (Login kemplen)


Your view of the world is far to small see what happens when you go off your medication. Whitby will win midget but not peewee or bantam.

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Re: Please stay on your medication

by Steve (Login ssleax08)

Both Whitby's Peewee and bantam teams are well coached. Both teams are strong from top to bottom. You don't have to win every game thought out the year, These kids know how to win when it counts
Between the peewee and Bantam teams add up their Provincial Championships you can't count that high.


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Re: Please stay on your medication

by laxxdaddy (Login laxxdaddy)

but that was then and this is now. those boys from yesteryear aren't the ones playing, sooo anything can happen

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Re: Provincial Champs

by Kis Myas (Login ziggy8448)

Crap like that is why people "Dislike" Whitby. Did you even watch any Lacrosse this weekend?

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must say I agree

by eggo (Login eggo44)

Why someone would be so presumptuos to acclaim a title to a team is beyond me....let the atheletes enjoy the ride and as a parent..try to enjoy it with them....

Eggo..

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Re: Provincial Champs

by laxxer10 (Login laxxer10)

Is that why Whitby was crying when Akwesasne creamed them 8-4. What a bunch of poor sports. In the end it will be Six Nations and Akwesasne and Whitby will be golfing.

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Re: Provincial Champs

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i can see hamilton 1 being there to

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Re: Provincial Champs

by warrior (Login crazywarrior)

whitby is the best they will win

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Re: Provincial Champs

by laxedandconfused (Login laxedandconfused)

six nations tied and beat whitby in brampton tourny, they beat whitby in first weekend qualifier, six nation beat burlington in first week as well maybe u better reverse ur prediction

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Just for Fun!

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Just wondering if your predictions have changed afte seeing the first 8 games of qualifiers? Seems anybody can beat anybody. Nations although winning, not blowing anybody out.

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Revised Predictions

by cdnlaxrules (Login gaels8)

I guess Clarington would have to make your final 6 now that they have finished 1st overall.
Will be a battle for the final 2 spots with 2 of the teams Newmarket and Brampton going head to head today.
Good luck to all and thanks to the volunteers for running 2 excellent weekends even with the multiple power outages.

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Revised Predictions

by cdnlaxrules (Login gaels8)

I guess Clarington would have to make your final 6 now that they have finished 1st overall.
Will be a battle for the final 2 spots with 2 of the teams Newmarket and Brampton going head to head today.
Good luck to all and thanks to the volunteers for running 2 excellent weekends even with the multiple power outages.

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Revised Predictions

by cdnlaxrules (Login gaels8)

I guess Clarington would have to make your final 6 now that they have finished 1st overall.
Will be a battle for the final 2 spots with 2 of the teams Newmarket and Brampton going head to head today.
Good luck to all and thanks to the volunteers for running 2 excellent weekends even with the multiple power outages.

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Tuggy Tourney??

by sotrmlaxkid (Login stormlaxkid)

did anybody turn in a roster to get into the tuggy tourney? just to see who we have to beat up on..

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Mom / Dad, Come on out and play like your kids do

by Gary Mark (Login marksy)

You think it's so easy huh? Well go try it!

Our Co-Ed Fall League registration will be held this Friday night (July 18) at Sports Garden Cafe (Iroquois Park) in Whitby. A second registration will be held next Wednesday (July 23) at the same. Registration will start at 7PM.

We're always looking for players but we will cap it at 8 teams. Moms and Dads in and around the Durham Region (or even beyond), come on out and experience the fun you watch your kids have all summer. It is fun first, and competitive second.

For more information check out:

http://lacrosseinsidethegame.com/2008/07/15/2008-fall-co-ed-registration-july-18-july-23/

Marksy

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6Nations Novice2

by anishnabekwe (Login anishnabekwe)

Let's look back a few weekends to the Midland tournie- Lost opening game to Fergus (c1) and final game to Mimico (c2), on the D side. Give the boys a break they had an awesome weekend in Sudbury and worked hard! Great Job Team and Bench staff!

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whats your record?

by excelsior13 (Login excelsior13)

What is your record against your division rivals(all C1 teams), St Kitts 2, Hamilton, NOTL? Its my understanding that you've beaten them all---maybe multiple times? I'm mot saying your coach/organization did anything wrong here, but if you have beaten them all, i don't understand how you could come out of zone ratings meeting lower than them. Was the zone rep catching a nap? Just wondering.

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poor result???

by Salmonbelly2 (Login Salmonbelly2)

You cite losing to Fergus 5-4 as a
poor result. Fergus is felt by many
to be the best team in C1 and were in
fact rated B2 in the initial ratings.


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Fred Conradi results Still Confused Who Won

by Gary (Login kemplen)

Still cannot figure out who won it looks like they have not posted the playoffs can any one provide the final

Fred Conradi Memorial Scoreboard

INTERMEDIATE - Open
Visitors Goals Home Goals

St. Catharines 4 Cambridge 2
Spartan 7 Oakville 1
London 7 Burlington 2
Halton Hills 7 Hamilton 5
Brampton 10 NOTL 0
Beaches 6 Six Nations 4
Whitby 8 Mississsauga 2
Orillia 9 North Perth 3
Orangeville 3 Peterborough 2
Newmarket 11 Clarington 4
Brockville 13 Markham 0
Fort Erie 5 Newmarket 2
Oakville 5 Orillia 4
Whitby 7 Cambridge 3
Peterborough 5 London 4
Clarington 7 Halton Hills 6
Brampton 10 Markham 1
Beaches 11 Fort Erie 2
Mississauga 3 St. Catharines 2
Spartan 8 North Perth 0
Orangeville 6 Burlington 5
Hamilton 8 Newmarket 3
Brockville 8 NOTL 1
Newmarket 2 6 Six Nations 3
Mississauga 10 Cambridge 6
Oakville 8 North Perth 1
Orillia 6 Spartan 5
Halton Hills 10 Newmarket 4
Brockville 3 Brampton 2
Beaches 10 Newmarket 2



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Re: Fred Conradi results Still Confused Who Won

by Matty (Login SgT_1991)

Not one person thought Halton would be able to achieve what they were able to accomplish this weeknd. Coming out strong against Hamilton, then a shaky lose to clarington, but coming back against Newmarket for a big win. Now playing oville was one of the greatest games id ever played in, both teams played very well, both TENDERS played very well keeping eachothers teams init because both teams had many chances to score through out the course of the game. Halton did take it in the end after a penelty shotwas missed, but seconds later the same player took a shot opposite to the side he had shot on in the penelty shot, scoring and taking the victory. That night Halton had one hell of a night, staying up extreamly late, getting loittle to no sleep, just having good old fun, and went and played a beat up whitby team, halton took the game by a margin of 5 or 4 goals i think... and had to lay around all day till the 5:30 game, where we took on a very strong Beaches team. Beaches had a strong weeknd, but Halton was to much to handel. Even with all the penelty trouble, halton tender played very well once again to hold off the beaches attack.

look forward to seeing you all in Provincials and make sure next time you think bout Oakville, Orangeville, and Beaches, DONT FORGET HALTON BITCHES!!!!! WOOOOOOO

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Conradi Results

by anotherlaxmom (Login ANOTHERLAXMOM)

Ptbo over Brampton 6-3 for B Final

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and...

by anotherlaxmom (Login ANOTHERLAXMOM)

Halton won A final over Beaches

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what do you think?

by spectator (Login high_voltage101)

looking back after the conradi tourny, a few questions come to mind.
who looks to be the best A team going into the provs?

who looks to be the best b team going into the provs?

who were some of the key players of that tourny?

aswell the top 5 goaltending?

what do you think?

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Re: what do you think?

by chazanimal (Login chazanimal)

anyone can take A, these teams can beat each other on any given day

london or whitby(sandbaggers) look like strong B teams

#7 from london(B) , everyone in A is good



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by lax905 (Login Lax905)

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Whitby Tender

by lax905 (Login Lax905)

I saw Whitby play a couple of games before our games on the weekend (Conradi Tournament Intermediate). If that team stay's in the "B" division that team will dominate at the provincals.This team should not be playing in the "B" provincals. They are a good "A" team. Whitby goalie i heard his name was Luke don't no his last name but this kid can flat out play.By far the best goalie Ive seen all year in the intermediate division hands down. Good Luck to all teams at the provincals (Hamilton Rocks)

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Re: Whitby Tender

by Int fan (Login intfan)

Luke Coote by far the best tender not in junior. Look out for him next year with the Green Gaels.

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Re: what do you think?

by Steve (Login ssleax08)

Whitby dose not sandbags OK

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barrie novice tourney

by (Login excelsior13)

can anyone tell me the score in the final?
Thanks

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Uniofficial Qualifier Standings after week 1

by Gary Mark (Login marksy)

I have to send out a huge thank you to Guntis Glinavs in London, for sending me an Excel sheet that did this very quickly (it would have taken me a heck of a lot longer than his neat little program did).

In any case, this is 100% unofficial, based on the scores I have.

http://lacrosseinsidethegame.com/2008/07/14/unofficial-qualifier-standings-after-week-1/

Any errors, let me know.

Marksy


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Question

by (Login Jim.Bell)

Is it time to put a thirty second clock in at the tyke level? If not for a shot, but even to get the ball up over the "10 second line"?

The tyke level is not the developmental level it once was. Even if it is only put in at the A and B levels of tyke, at least it's a start.

They once had a rule that a team in tyke could throw the ball back to the goalie once per possession, they took that out because the other division didn't have it, (at the time) but the other divisions have a thirty, why not tyke.

Although this has been bantered about for years, this comes on the heels of a few incidents, to which teams have the lead, yet run back behind thier own goalie to waste time. IS THIS LACROSSE?

If a player does it, that's fine but if a coach is yelling for him to do it...WOW. Sure people are going to say that, it's part of the game, or the smarter teams do it, but come on.

Two of the "power houses" in lacrosse have done this recently, and I feel it's not part of the game pf lacrosse, it's not "advancing the game, or the ball or that matter" and I feel it's a travisty to the game.

Sure it's taking a opportunity, sure it's using the clock to the advantage, but it still looks and tastes bad.

One final note, I'm sure this is also talked about, and it's not a "ref" issue, but please if any officials are reading this...if the game is run time...please "put a step in it", on average there is a waste of about 45 seconds to 75 seconds after each goal is scored, and about 30-45 seconds after a penalty is called. In a one goal game, it makes a difference.

PLUS.... if you (officials) can not "keep up" with the play... please allow someone to ref for you, it only hurts the kids, opens you up to question, and makes the game go so slow. It's tough to see officials give out delay of game penalties for a player walking to the penalty box, when he himself fails to run most of the game. Or makes calls from the other end because those damn little tykes out run them...

Just some random thoughts for all to chew on....

Great Hamilton Tournament, and great Tyke, and Novice Elora Tournament.

Great game Halton Hills, yes you beat us 4-2, and out shot us 46-13. As they always say "We'll meet again" in another hot, muggy arena, playing a game that we all love, and love to bash.

Thanks,

Jim Bell
Sarnia

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Possible answer?

by Rock Insider (Login RockInsider)

Hey Jim,

Maybe they should put a 45 second shot clock into Tyke to at least force teams to move the ball into the attacking zone or eventually lose possession. That's what makes field lacrosse so boring at times when team try to stall to run out the clock that has 5 minutes still to play.

As for the referees taking their time, I have seen it alot more this year than ever. It's as if they don't realize that they are real important to time management of a game especially if it is a tight contest.

Your friend,

Paul

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Another Suggestion

by MW (Login the_laxian)

Like we do in Tyke H/L here, the player must advance the ball.....if they don't attempt to..loss of possession...no shot clock required.

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Jim I agree 100%

by Gary Mark (Login marksy)

Tyke players are far better than they were 1000 years ago when you and I played (ok, well maybe just you ), and it is time that we adapt to their advanced skill level.

It may not be appropriate at 30 in Tyke, but there should definitely be a shot clock introduced.

Marksy

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Re: Jim I agree 100%

by (Login leelaxman)

I certainly agree with both Jim and marksy that some sort of shot should be introduced into the Tyke level. I think that this should be adressed at the next OLA AGM with someone to propose at change. I think that a 1 minute shot clock be introduced at the Tyke level



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Here's the form...

by Tsitshoh (Login tsitshoh)

She:kon!

If you want change, get your prez to endorse it and away you go!  (to the AGM)

http://www.ontariolacrosse.com/documents/content_1263.doc

Skennen

...Tsitshoh...



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Weekend #1 Results Midget Qualifiers

by Midget Fan (Login whitelax7)

Teams Wins Losses Ties Pts GF GA Tie breaker POS
Whitby 6 0 0 12 51 13 0.7968 1
Orangeville 5 0 1 11 35 18 0.6603 2
Brampton 4 1 1 9 28 16 0.6363 3
Six Nations 4 1 1 9 35 22 0.5925 4
Elora 3 3 0 6 23 25 0.4791 5
HH 3 3 0 6 28 22 0.56 6
Barrie 1 2 2 4 25 24 0.5102 7
Peterborough 2 4 0 4 31 33 0.4843 8
Akwesasne 2 4 0 4 26 33 0.4406 9
St.Catharines 2 4 0 4 20 32 0.3846 10
K-W 2 4 0 4 20 36 0.3571 11
Mississauga 1 4 1 3 27 41 0.397 12
Oakville 1 5 0 2 20 36 0.3571 13


Not too sure if Barrie gets seated higher based on tie breaker formula. Do more wins mean anything?

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Edge Summer Field Lax Camp

by Stuart Brown (Login Edgelacrosse)

“EDGE SUMMER CAMPS 2008!!!

Edge is very excited to be offering their first ever Summer Camp. The camps will be open to any athlete interested in taking their game to the next level. This is one of the only field camps available of its caliber in Ontario and its guaranteed to be a good time with the highest level of instruction.

Edge has brought together an A-List of Coaches for this year’s camps. No where else would you have the chance to learn from Dan Dawson, Brodie Merrill, Jeff Zywicki, Zack Greer as well as Edge Senior Elite / Team Canada U19 players and the list will continue to grow. As we are going to be adding more guest coaches as the month of July comes along.

CAMP ONE : AUG 11-14, 2008
AGES : U10 to U14
HOURS: 10AM to 3PM
COST: $260.00


CAMP TWO: AUG 18 – 21, 2008
AGES: Freshmen to Junior
HOURS: 10AM to 3PM
COST: $260.00


If you click on this link it will take you directly to the Edge Website – Summer Camp 2008 Page with direct links to the online registration. Edge has also set up an easy online payment system option to help streamline the registration process. http://www.edgelacrosse.com/content_full.php?id=131.


THERE IS ONLY LIMITED SPACE & IT WILL BE A FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS


Edge looks forward to seeing everyone who comes out this summer and helping you have a memorable lacrosse experience.”


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6Nations Novice 2 take Sudbury Tourney!!

by Dances with stix (Login hitfrombehind)

Nations goes undefeated in sudbury. Playing Friday night against Hamilton Saturday morning to Brampton Saturday afternoon to Sudbury Sunday morning against sudbury in the Semis then in the Finals against Hamilton.

This will be a very strong team to contend with in provincials. They have great goaltending. Look for this kid to be on Team Iroquois in the next year or 2 very big and can move well. Defencivly they pound the hell out of you. They have 19 runners and about ten of them will crush you when you have the ball!! Offencivly every kid has scored regulary all season long.

watching these kids play it would appear that they are fed raw meat before every game.

The coaches are probably the quietest guys on a bench during a game. They never yell at the kids and barely ever argue a call. They let the kids play the game and have some fun.


Good Luck to All at provincials!!!!!




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Ratings a joke

by Salmonbelly2 (Login Salmonbelly2)

How does a team like Nations2 who beat their
zone rivals Hamilton(C1),St Kitts#2(C1) multiple times
end up with a C2 rating? Welland also beat zone rival
Hamilton in their only score found on the OLA scores
for ratings.Welland beat St Kitts 9-1. They also got a C2 rating.

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Here, here!!!

by (Login 80sballboy)

Here, here!!!

Look down at the message titled C2 Novice Comparisons.

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Sand Bag?

by (Login olaxrules)

So, did six nations 2 sand bag? or did the OLA screw up the ratings?

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Re: Sand Bag?

by Dances with stix (Login hitfrombehind)

They didnt sand bag

This is what happens when you have the OLA ask people to step up and do the rationgs and only a hand full of people come forward to help.

If you dont help out then stop bitchin!!


Sounds like an election in this country when people dont vote then thats all you hear about

I know this coach personally and he wold not sand bag not one person contacted him in regards to where he thought that his team should be rated.

If you asked him I am sure that he would tell you his thoughts.



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Re: Sand Bag?

by resonable69 (Login reasonable69)

actually it is not the OLA...as a zone you would have submitted a rating during Zone ratings week the last week of June where the team and your organization could have stepped up and done the right thing in giving a rating where you would be competitive, not destroying teams...not the OLA's fault more like your organizations

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attendance

by Jackjockey (Login jackjockey)

Maybe if the Zone people in charge of the divisions actually went to games?I have not seen one in this center at all this year.Then they would see for themselves how "some" teams slack off in the third.Not only not to run up a score but to keep their cushy rating in tact.We submit scores ,they rank the teams.Funny how some scores and tournaments go a complete 90,after final ratings are released.But,is there a better way?Collectively we hope so,but they cannot attend every game.I wish I had the answer,but one way is to definitely at least go to a game or two?

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I agree with on this

by a fan (Login laxrock)

Our zone sent in ratings after they met and argued over who should be where. Funny thing happened after all was said and done, the Bantam team from Arthur which the zone agreed to be rated as B is now going C1. They tied K-W's Bantam team twice, and K-W maybe a week A team but they are still pushing those boys to compete at the highest level. Now K-W could have gone B but when you loose by a few goals to an A team your still considered competing.

Arthur should be too and I'm really surprised given who their coach is that this was okay for him.

Teams need to be competing at their level and stop looking for glory by dropping and really hurting teams who legitimately belong there.

So for those teams in C1, be prepared for that Arthur team.


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Arthur already noted as being mis-rated....

by tbone16 (Login tbone16)

Arhtur's questionable rating had already been discussed on this forum, but thanks for the additional info on how the zone had them as a "B". Regretably for the other teams in C1, Arthur will have company with West Durham and Whitby II, I look for those 3 in the final four. I know somone has to win and somneone has to go "o'fer" in a field of 16, but it looks like these 3 teams had the goods to move up to B.

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thanks for your comments

by lacrosse fan (Login laxrock)

I agree so much with what your saying.

Good Luck with your team at Provincials.

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Re: Arthur already noted as being mis-rated....

by (Login laxstar4)

you are right those 3 teams are capapble of moving to b but even if they moved up another 3 strong teams would have to move down what would the difference be?

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Re: Sand Bag?

by reasonable69 (Login reasonable69)

actually it is not the OLA...as a zone you would have submitted a rating during Zone ratings week the last week of June where the team and your organization could have stepped up and done the right thing in giving a rating where you would be competitive, not destroying teams...not the OLA's fault more like your organizations

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Re: Sand Bag?

by reasonable69 (Login reasonable69)

also he would have had the opportunity to appeal...why appeal? better to give a beating than to receive?

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Re: Sand Bag?

by Dances with stix (Login hitfrombehind)

Actually you are correct in saying that it is the centers fault.
And I agree.
But on the other hand we didnt play then like we are now. We have been able to get a bit more floor time and run some good long practices and that has helped immensly. Not to mention the extra team activities that we have finally been able to start doing forming a great team bond.




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Re: Sand Bag?

by reasonable69 (Login reasonable69)

and hence the question arises again...do we need to rate the b through d teams by July 1st? what would be the point of a centre that is coming from a distance only to know that there is not a fair chance? This is where the OLA should have the ability to move teams no questions asked

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Re: Sand Bag?

by (Login hitfrombehind)

I agree The schedule is not out until days before the provies so why not rate them later say 2 weeks prior to Provincials?


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good one

by (Login jackjockey)

very good point.

But how does a team enter tourneys?The "sandbaggin" talk hear does not end,it may get worse for tourney's.but at least the Provincial Ratings will be a little more accurate.We almost had to pull out of a tourney this year because of our initial rating.

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Re: Sand Bag?

by reasonable69 (Login reasonable69)

and it is not like the Six Nations Association doesn't know the appeal process as they successfully got their PW3 team from a C2 to a D

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Re: Ratings a joke

by xxref (Login xxref)

if you want accurate ratings I have a few suggestions.
1.Move the final date to sign players to June 1st. instead of July 1st.
How can the zones do their ratings mid to late June and the OLA do
preliminary ratings by June 28th.if players don't have to be signed until
July 1st.?
2.Teams have to have 10 game sheets to be rated for provincials.Players
names who appear on all 10 game sheets should be the only players to be
allowed to play in the provincials.
Instead of rating "a" team to be eligible to participate in the provincials
they should have to rate "the" team that will actually be playing in the
provincials.

I know there will be all kinds of excuses why this won't work but what does it do to Midget or Intermediate Provincials when a team or two shows up at the Provincials with a player or two who played not a single minor game before ratings because they were playing nothing but Junior A or Junior B on Midget or Intermediate cards and got sent back in time to play in Provincials with their minor team because the Junior team didn't make the play-offs or didn't survive past the first round.

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That's a good question my friend.

by BaileyQuarters (Login BaileyQuarters)

We've played games, where the other team had a full bench on the game sheet, but only 12 runners and a goalie on the bench. You go to the Junior B website and there the kid is listed for 15 games as a Junior B AP. It's tough to police.

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Re: That's a good question my friend.

by Dances with stix (Login hitfrombehind)

That is any easy fix and no policing involved.

Force them to sign the game sheet!!

Used to do that in 70's and 80's when I played hockey can't remember about Lacrosse though.

Easily fixed if the kid ain't there he can't sign means he didn't play.

Problem solved


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This is the problem with Lacrosse

by Rock Insider (Login RockInsider)

First off Congrats to the Six Nations Novice 2 team for winning the Sudbury tournament and going undefeated, way to go. I bet you they scored a bunch of beautiful goals, had alot of great passing, their goalie made a ton of highlight real saves, etc., etc.

But we are not privy to that as the poster has to tell us about a group of 9 and 10 year players who "pound the hell out of you" and "it would appear that they are fed raw meat before every game". And that their team has about 10 kids that "will crush you when you have the ball"

Its great that they have quiet coaches and they let the kids play the game and have fun, that is an important quality in teaching the kids lacrosse.

But please people these are 9 and 10 year old players (playing on the 2 team to boot) and we are teaching them to "pound the hell out of you" and "crush you when you have the ball".

This is one of the problems with lacrosse today, some (not all) coaches (and parents obviously) need to teach their kids (team) to intimidate and to be PHYSICAL and than we have to read those facts on this forum.

I understand that contact is an important factor in lacrosse but leave the "pound the hell of out you" to the Men, teach these kids how to cross check without trying to hurt or intimidate, we are losing kids to this sport because of it and trust me I know as I am also a parent of lacrosse kids as well as a coach of both minor and senior.

Let's teach the players how to pass, catch, pick up loose balls, set picks, transition, and to cross check effectively to stop players without "pounding the hell out of another kid" or "crush them". Especially at a young age where you will get alot of players playing in the C and D division that need to improve on their skills but some will never get a chance because "they got the hell pounded out of them" or "they got crushed" and they no longer want to play.

Please don't respond to this posting and tell me that if a kid can't take a hit or a pounding that they shouldn't play the game. Lacrosse is a game of skill and is enjoyable when you can watch players who can pass and catch especially at a young age and are thought the other fundamentals as well as learning to check properly. When I see teams do that as well as play a good cross checking defense without intimidation than I know they have been well coached.

If we want to keep kids in the game of lacrosse teach them sportsmenship as well as skill and you'd have a winning combination. It may be important to win for one of the two teams playing but it's more important to grow the sport on both sides of the floor.

Paul



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Re: This is the problem with Lacrosse

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Well actually i dis agree with you my son is on this team and since day 1 of his short lacrosse life I have never ever taught him to pound the hell out of kids. i taught my son how to run dodge deek shoot pass and check properly not on the neck not on the back and not below the hips!! And he still will mangae to do one of these every now and again and I also taught him the other skills that are required to play our National sport!!!! Althoughg hitting is part of the game and yes I will say it if you cant take the hit then go play soccer. My daughter plays and the first thing that the boys do is line her up. I have taught her the same skils that i taught my son. She has learned to dodge these boys and they run right on by usually into the boards or trip over their own 2 feet and fall flat on their face.

But the reason these kids stop playing in whole is not because they get pounded. Its because parents buy equipment that has little or no protection!! I see it everyday at the arena. You canot forget that in order for a bone crushing hit or a nice 2 handed slah!! which no one but these kids can control you need to protect your self. 1st thing to do is buy good pads throw your hockey pads out and get some good solid pads that you can manouver in!!

I agree on teaching these kids the proper skills catching passing shooting how to take a hit and how to give one.

Maybe you should watch one of our games this week Tuesday we are at Niagara on the lake 6 pm and Thursday at the Gaylord Powless arena in Osh. at 6 come on down then you can tell me what you think?

Get some equipment and will see you at the provincials!!!

As for I had to tell you how the kids would pound the hell of you yeah thats what society has taught these boys you have to fight and fight hard for things that you want in life!!! Or you end up dead on the street with a bullet in your head or od on some drug.

I would put about 6 of these kids against your best six from what ever city you are from for a skills competition and day you can pick the skills then we will pick the skills and we will see who comes out on top!! The first thing most of these boys learn is stick skills then they get to novice they start learning to hit and its all trial and error for them as many of the coaches out there are all about stick skills on the 1 and 2 teams

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nice

by Tom Templeman (Login Tom_Templeman)

Nice parenting.

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Woooho!!!

by 80's Ball Boy (Login 80sballboy)

Before we get side tracked with parenting skills lets take a step back and realize what we are debating.

Nobody will dispute that Six Nations Novice 2 team is a high quality team. And I think few will dispute that there is no way they should have been rated C2, or maybe even a C1.

Whos fault is it? I don't know... whoever took part in rating them I suppose.

Should the Six Nations coach have disputed his low rating the same way he would have if they were rated too high. I suggest that it would be the right thing to do. Would I have? Not likely.

Should the other teams in there zone have disputed Six Nations rating? Absolutely!

Lets face it, a representative from each association at the ratings meeting, is not going to know each and every team in it own association, never mind everyone elses association. However all the other C2 rated novice teams in the zone should have ensured the other teams that they have played had sensible ratings. Most times than not the coach stops at his own teams rating instead of looking a little further at who he will face come the provincials.

The problem with the system is that a team is expected to announce a dispute of their FINAL rating based on PRELIMINARY ratings of other teams. I disputed my teams rating on just those bases and lost the dispute. I think I had a legitimate concern based on the preliminary ratings, but after all the othere teams in my zone and in the rest of Ontario did some juggling I did not.

Is it too late to dispute the novice Six Nation #2 teams final rating? I think probably it is too late. Possibly there has to be a third stage to the ratings system. A preliminary pre season rating, an intermidiate where you can dispute you teams rating, and a final where you can dispute other teams ratings.

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the whole Sudbury story

by 80's Ball Boy (Login 80sballboy)

BTW, here is the whole story regarding the Sudbury tournament. The final four were Six Nations #2, Hamilton, Clarington #3, and Sudbury, finishing in about that order.

Clarington (C2) won against Sudbury (C2) 5-4 with 5 seconds left in the 3rd period in tournament play, seeding themselves 2nd and Sudbury 4th for the play off. Also in the tournament play, Six Nations (C2) beat Hamilton (C1) 6-1, leaving them 1st and 3rd respectively.

In the semis, Hamilton (C1) knocked out Clarington by beating them 7-2, and Six Nations (C2) knocked out Sudbury presumably by a bigger score. That left Hamilton facing Six Nations again for the final. I do not know what that result was.

Assuming Six Nations beat Hamilton by about the same score of their first meeting in the tournament, what chance does Clarington have against Six Nations #2 in the Provincials? 13-3?

I feel even more sorry for a team like Huntsville that got smashed by Sudbury 8-1, both C2 teams. 21-4 against Six Nations #2 come the Provincials?

Way to prove nothing boys...

My bet is that it will be Six Nations #2 and Kahnawake in the C2 final, both of which should be rated C1 or higher.


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Re: the whole Sudbury story

by Dances with stix (Login hitfrombehind)

Don't say way to prove nothing boys!!
It's not thier fault.
Why would you take that away from them? They did nothing wrong.



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do the right thing

by steveooo (Login steveooo)

You clearly have been incorectly rated. Your organization should come clean and do the right thing and step up.It is good for the game , the kids and the competition.If you are as good as you say you are step up and compete at your level don't cakewalk through provincials.

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Re: the whole Sudbury story

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actually Huntsville is rated "d"

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Typical response

by Rock Insider (Login RockInsider)

Should have known that your response would have been long winded but not much sense.

I never said your team doesn't have skills, they obviously do, they are a good team and by the other postings on the forum they are "underrated" for Provincials.

What irks me about your original posting and than your response to my posting is that your promoting "tough play" first over good skills. I would rather read a posting where you describe your team's skills, the nice goals, the nice saves, the good defensive plays, the passing, the catching, etc. That would tell me how good a team you have.

But again I don't think you understand my posting or maybe your response would have been different and not one of those ones that says bring your 6 best players and I'll bring mine.

Tell us the good things about your team, that's what I'd like to read.

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Re: Typical response

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Sorry but i don't want to get into a pissing match with you. I have better things to do. If you prefer skill over a tough well fought out game by both teams or 1 team thats great!! And thats your perogative.

I was just stating what this team is capable of doing. If they come up against a very skilled team that can pass faster than these boys can hit or run the this team will probably lose its just part of the game.









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Agree

by Rock Insider (Login RockInsider)

I agree I'm not looking to get into a debate with you. I just found your original posting a little extreme when your talking about 9 and 10 year olds. I have witness kids quitting the game because they are intimidated or their parents force them out because of the overly physical play that sometimes happens in this game.

Like I said in my last posting I'm sure your team is highly skilled, and sounds like it would be a fun team to watch.

All the best in Provincials!

For the other readers, my postings here had nothing to do with the ratings as I have no clue how good Six Nations 2 novice team is although by reading all of your posting it sounds like they are a very good 2 team.

Good luck to everyone at the Provincials.

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Wow

by REEEEE_LAAAAAX (Login Re_Laxed)

Nothing to do with this age group but saw this team play in NOTL tonight. They have some nice players...VERY impressive for novice. The NOTL team which is ranked C1 played smart lacrosse and came away with a well deserved 5-3 victory. They played SOLID defence but passed hard and quick to use the fast break to counter the SN offence.

I cannot understand why people would complain about their C rating.

My best GUESS is that it a team of minor players that at this level can meet their match when faced with a few senior players on another C team. My other GUESS is that they would be easily handled by a roster of senior players.

My advice is enjoy watching this age group. They look better than the kids who preceeded them only 5 or 6 year ago!!



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Re: Wow

by Dances with stix (Login hitfrombehind)

Tell the hole story of last night.

nations had no goalie for the 1st and 2nd periods as the construction on QEW delayed him.
So nations played with 5 runners and 1 kid in net with player pads on!!!

Thats when NOTL scored all their goals!!!
Once the goalie showed up he stoned them. Great passing and some great shooting by both teams! excellent game to watch for novice players!!

Kids playing net with no pads weren't afraid of the ball either stood there ands took the shots off the chest legs wherever!!

Great work nation's good effort.


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Saw third

by REEEEE_LAAAAAX (Login Re_Laxed)

Saw the end of the second and the third. Again the way this post was they were unstopable. But (correct me if I am wrong) the third period would have been even score wose and shot wise VERY close. As NOTL is C Nations was no B. That was my only point. I was impressed with both teams. I am only slighting the posts.



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slighting the posts?

by excelsior13 (Login excelsior13)

The posts are saying that Nations 2 should be C1, not B? So in fact, you are supporting the posts. NOTL, ST Kitts 2, Hamilton are all C1. Dances with Stix can correct me if I'm wrong, but Nations 2 has had considerable success against these three teams. i believe they are all in same zone, so how does one team come out of zone ratings meeting in C2?


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Re: slighting the posts?

by Dances with stix (Login hitfrombehind)

Dont know for sure but here is my take. probably wrong but anyways.
Zone meeting 2 people showed up and let all the same and voted said ok lets go home.

Really i am not sure wasn't at the meeting don't know who was.

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Re: slighting the posts?

by reasonable69 (Login reasonable69)

Looks like Six Nations isn't the only team....take a look at Welland....the trick is don't go in any turnaments before ratings and then go nuts...what a joke...again, not the OLA's fault...what is even more precious is Welland's website promoting love of the game over winning

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Re: slighting the posts?

by Dances with stix (Login hitfrombehind)

Actually Nation's tried to get into a couple of tourney's early knowing that we had the Confederecy this weekend, Wanting to give the kids a break with the playoffs starting around the same time but they were all full. So what center are you from? what are you rated? You have seemed to take quit an interest in nations, I figure that we beat you or it was a real close game and you are upset still? am I correct?

Good luck to all in the confederecy this weekend!!!!!!!!!!!

John Sibbick




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Re: slighting the posts?

by excelsior13 (Login excelsior13)

You just don't get it---it isn't about losing a game. Its about good competition and a sense of fair play at the provincials. I don't know what team reasonable69 is with, but I would rather be in his shoes than yours or Welland's. What fun or sense of accomplishment is there in doing well in a division that you know you are better than? It may be unfair for teams to run into an "under rated" team, but is even worse for that "under rated" team.

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Re: slighting the posts?

by Dances with stix (Login hitfrombehind)

Oh I get it.

First, last night our team played Welland Rated C2 same as us. We beat them in a well fought out game by both teams 5 to 4 ( But we are under rated)

2nd we play NOTL on Tuesday night rated C1 beat us 3 to 2 ( but we are under rated )

Come on stop whinning!! we are where we should be some nights we probably could be C1 others probably D


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Re: slighting the posts?

by excelsior13 (Login excelsior13)

Oh I get it! You lose by a goal to what appears to be a solid C1 team(and according to you, you played 2 periods with no goalie!) and you think that makes you C2. I understand that teams can end up in the wrong division(sometimes with no fault of their own), but the way you are defending your C2 rating(at the same time touting what a good team you have), it seems like you are right where you want to be, and I guess thats why you are there. As for Welland(as someone already pointed out), they don't belong in C2 either---I saw them beat a C1 team last week.

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Re: slighting the posts?

by Dances with stix (Login hitfrombehind)

It's definately not our fault that we are in C2 I never put us there and i am not defending our rating. i am simply stating the facts. I don't care if you whinned for the rest of the day and the OLA say ok you go to "A" It doesn't make a differ3ence to me. Hell if you want I will drive you to the OLA office you can cry on someone shoulder an I will even hold you hand!! MAybe just maybe they will bump us up to "A"

Like I said don't care as long as the kids are having fun and learning something.

like most people I am just happy that my kids are doing something that they like. Winning and losing is teaching them life skills. The game teaches them how to get along with others like in the real world when you have to go to work and work long side someone for 35 years.

So just RELAX!!



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Ratings

by Dan Pilon (Login brocklax)

...they're never perfect. Some teams want to play where they have a chance to win - some want in over their head even though they may have no chance to win - and some even find the perfect spot. People seem to forget that there will always be strong teams at a level, and weak teams - sometimes you're one, sometimes you're the other.

That being said, in my mind, I would say that Nations2 should be a C1, and so should Welland - but at the end of the day, we're arguing over the thin edge of the wedge. The difference between the two (C1 & C2)isn't huge, and who knows why they're rated there. Maybe an executive from the association placed them there, maybe the coaches did want it - who knows...and who cares. We played them all (I coach St. Kitts2) and we lost to Nations2 5-3, lost to Welland as well, lost to NOTL -- beaten and lost to both Hamilton and Burl2. NOTL is strong enough to be a B team - or stay high-end C1. With the top teams at a level, they can usually fit at both. The Nations2 team is probably the same team we played in the semis at Tyke B last year, and I'm thoroughly impressed by them each time we play them. They would potentially benefit from the increased competition a level higher, but someone made a decision, so folks should just live with it.

If it's about some teams feeling screwed out of the opportunity to win their level - then go ahead, get pissed off (even though those same people will say in the same breath that it's not about winning...). If it's about being competitive, well, none of these teams are going to walk away with the championship at any of the levels - the games will still be competitive.

We have 6 teams at zone 9 that are all essentially the same, so yes, I'm surprised at the discrepancy in the ratings -- but it's not a perfect system, they usually get it pretty good, and I don't think any of these are so far off that a team is going to walk in and win all of their games by 10. It's about competition right --- not winning.

Good luck to all in the remainder of our playoffs and provincials.

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Re: Ratings

by lacrossemania (Login lacrossemania)

Overall the OLA do a fantastic job with the ratings, although some teams
could go bottom of upper level, or top of lower division. The ages of the kids
(minor's vs. majors), I'm sure helps there decision.

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Re: Ratings

by xxref (Login xxref)

I still say if they had to rate 'THE" team they were taking to the Provincials rather than "A" team to be eligible,the ratings would be even better.

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Re: Ratings

by Dances with stix (Login hitfrombehind)

Well put and well said!!

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Elora tournament champs

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Congrats to the Guelph Regals TYKES tournament champs on Saturday.
Congrats to the Halton Hills Bulldogs NOVICE champs on Sunday.


Thanks to all who attended the tournament, and a special thank you to Annie ,Tracey and Linda for thier work arranging everything from game sheets to the BBQ.

Ric

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Final games scores from Sunday ?

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n/m

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Sad Sad Day...

by O (Login ovillelax1)

Yes, lets congratulate the Halton Novice team, pre-season rated A, final OLA rating A for entering and winning the Elora Novice B/C tourney. If I was a B/C team that wasted Hundreds of dollars on fees, travel and accomodations to be forced to play an "A" team I would demand my money back.

No disrespect to the hard working kids that undoubtedly had fun, but shame on the adults that allowed this to happen.

I'd be really mad if I was a member of Orangeville2, Oakville2, Sarnia, Mimico, Elora, Burlington2 ALL rated B or C

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I agree

by olax (Login olaxrules)

Why would Elora let them register for the tournament when they were rated A?

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An explanation you don't deserve!

by init4thekids (Login init4thekids)

To the bitter Orangeville 2 coach who we didn't even play and has already had this explanation, get over it and worry about why kids on your team don't want to play for you. For everyone else and for the last time : H.H. 98's have never been ranked higher than B until this year. For whatever reason our association ranked us a weak A to start the year. This was a decision I challenged them on, but was told to wait and see until final rankings. Our best 98 player has played Peewee 1 all year and only two games for us (not this weekend). I have had three children out all year with significant injuries and only one has just returned on Sunday. I have 6 minors who play regular minutes. Having said all that we fully anticipated being ranked B by the time this tournament was going to be played. We entered 2 A/B tournaments and this one B/C, back in March when you have to. There was a distinct lack of tournaments available this year due to various reasons, so this one day B ranked event, close to home, seemed a perfect fit at the time. To the credit of the children, they have performed exceptionaly well and with 10 teams being finally ranked A this year we are now in that mix. I am sorry that we upset people but this is about 8,9 and 10 year old boys who all seemed to have a good time. Sarnia could have easily beaten us in the semi, on a different day and I doubt anyone would even be mentioning us right now. We tried to be gracious in victory and I am proud of how my children played on the floor and around the arena with boys from all the other teams. Thank you to the organizers and we are sorry for the aggravation you are receiving on our account.

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Choose your words better

by Abused fan (Login krashr)

I talked to the "bitter Orangeville 2 coach" about the Elora tournament and nothing was mentioned about your team, or any other teams for that matter, only complemented her team's play. Careful where you point fingers. If I were an opposing team, I would have questioned your team being there too. Your reasoning seems good and I'm glad you were gracious winners.

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Re: Choose your words better

by init4thekids (Login init4thekids)

Actually the coach in question expressed her feelings face to face with me and also with the organizers while I was there, but thank you for your concern. I certainly would not have mentioned any other coach on speculation alone.

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by Abused fan (Login krashr)

Like I said, I and anyone else I'm sure, would question why an A team is in a B/C tournament. It was questioned because an A team didn't belong there, nothing more is being said about it. Congratulations on winning your B/C tournament. Oh, and great job recruiting players this year.

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Re: Choose your words better

by init4thekids (Login init4thekids)

I think maybe you should take your own advice and "choose your words" a little better. I "accepted" a boy who wanted to play for us without questioning "why?" because it wasn't my business. He has become my son's best friend and they will be playing for the same hockey team this winter. I for one am just glad that the sport of lax didn't lose another 8 year old to another sport like soccer. It seems we are losing more and more each year. He certainly doesn't deserve backhanded comments like that. Enough said, I have no fight with you or anyone else up in Northmen country. Good luck to all your teams. It's too nice an evening to be on here.

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by Abused fan (Login krashr)

I'm quite interested that you "accepted" a player that wanted to play for you after he signed with another organization, tried out for a higher level team in that organization and then made your team without making it to any of your try-outs. Maybe you should have asked "why?". I have made no comments towards the player, just curiousity about how your organization does business. I can hear violin music while reading your comments about losing kids to soccer. That has nothing to do with this issue, which you know well enough. I'm glad you have no fight with the Northmen organization, but then again, what have they done to you? Honestly, good luck to all of your teams as well.

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Peewee A Standings after week 1...

by O (Login ovillelax1)

Clarington-9
Orangeville-8 (beat Newmarket head to head)
Newmarket-8
Burlington-7 (beat Brampton head to head)
Brampton-7
Six Nay-6 (beat Whitby head to head)
Whitby-6
Peterborough-5 (tied with KW, beat Oak, better goals ratio than KW)
KW-5 (beat Oak, worse goals ratio than Pete)
Oakville-5 (lost to both Pete and KW)
Halton-4
Mississauga-2

(bracketed text explains how I sorted teams currently tied in points)

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Peewee top six

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Now that the first weekend of PeeWee A lacrosse is complete does anybody have final 6 predictions.

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Regrets from Spartans....

by Dave B (Login laxman_bubba10)

I would like to apologize to the Whitby Intermediate team, coaches, players and parents. On behalf of the Spartan Intermediate team and organization. I have to express my regret for what occured on Saturday night during our game. I am very embarrassed by my actions as well as my players involved in the altercation. None of it should have happened and I take full resposibility for not keeping my team under control. I hope you are able to accept my apology and not see our team as "goons" because of a couple out of control players.

Once again, please accept my apology on behalf of myself and fellow coaches.

Yours in lacrosse,

Dave Borland
Head Coach Spartan Intermediate

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Re: Regrets from Spartans....

by Stinky000 (Login stinky000)

Nice job Dave

I would like to make a couple of comments on what happened Sat. night. It is very easy for the Whitby organization to sit back and hurl comments at the Spartan Team. but as I saw the game there was two teams out there. The Whitby players & coaches are by no means angels. they must have forgotten about last year at the Provincials when after the Spartan team beat them out that the whole team jumped off the bench and attacked our players.

Yes the Spartan goalie lost control and the coach pulled him because of that, yes there were fights, but to make an accusation of someone gouging out a players eye is nuts. His eye was injured as a result of the fight. I witnessed both benches losing control, I witnessed the Whitby players "show boating" after scoring the 5th goal which by no means is showing class or respect. I also witnessed Whitby parents losing control and threatening the Spartan players, again no class. I am not condoning what the Spartan team did, I personally was embarassed by their actions. But to label us as "goons" is wrong, these guys as a whole are a very talented team and the coaching staff are excellant.


The game got out of hand ( which sometimes happens in lacrosse), it was very unfortunate it turned out this way. I don't think anyone likes to see that happen.

I also would like to add the the Whitby goalie played an awesome game.


Good luck to whitby in the Provincials, from what I saw of them from this tournament is they should be an "A" team and compete with the best in the province.

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Kings beat Spartans

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Orillia Kings fought back to beat the Spartans. The tender is a loose canon, they are by no means the toughest team in the league and they have zero class. They also hate to be hit

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mhm

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hey Mr. kings. your right man, i loved our games against eachother(Burlington) ok, the 2nd 1 was a bit chippy, but still a nice game. spartan does have a loose cannon team, let alone the goalie. can't wait to see teams in provincials!! its going to be different for everyone. by they way. Burlington is playing spartans tuesday night in zone playoffs. wish us luck.

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good luck

by kingslax8 (Login kingslax8)

good luck burlington,play them hard and they will go to the box all day

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thanx man!

by big lax guy (Login BTender30)

hey, thanx alot man, we r going to need it

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burlington vs. spartan

by laxrolaxro (Login laxrolaxro)

Dont make excuses burlington....

SPARTAN DEFEAT BURLINGTON 13-3


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Wamper's Corner # 3

by Gary Mark (Login marksy)

http://lacrosseinsidethegame.com/2008/07/13/wampers-corner-episode-3/

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Missing 3 Midget scores from late Sunday

by Gary Mark (Login marksy)

Please email me if you have them:

Barrie vs. Halton
Mississauga vs. St. Catharines
Oakville vs. Peterborough

gmark@lacrosseinsidethegame.com

Thanks.

http://lacrosseinsidethegame.com/2008/07/10/2008-ola-qualifier-1-july-11-13/


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Mississauga vs St. Kitts

by Tomahawks PR (Login TomahawksInfo)

9-6 victory for St. Catherines in a good back and forth game.

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Re: Mississauga vs St. Kitts

by Laxfan (Login Laxman_77)

Who won the HH/Barrie and the Oakville/Peterborough Midget games sunday night and what were the scores?

Can anywon help?



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Here They Are

by Ryan Dowdall (Login r_dowdall)

Barrie 2
Halton Hills 10

Oakville 2
Peterborough 7

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Thanks

by Laxfan (Login Laxman_77)



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Thanks Ryan

by Gary Mark (Login marksy)

Nice to (finally) meet you yesterday as well.



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Likewise

by Ryan Dowdall (Login r_dowdall)

And I greatly appreciate what you are doing for the game Gary.

One suggestion, can I give you a Northmen shirt ot wear for your next episode of "Lacrosse - Inside the Game"? You should be partial, right?

Just kidding. Keep up the good work!

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Absolutley, I'd love to wear a Northmen shirt

by Gary Mark (Login marksy)

I'll tell you what. Bring one down with you to the next qualifier and I'll do the episode with Ron and have it back to you before you leave.

And I'm not kidding. I wanted to do each week in a different jersey / shirt, whatever,I just have not had the shirts pouring in like I had hoped.

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Sounds Good!

by Ryan Dowdall (Login r_dowdall)

The only problem will be me remembering to bring an extra. Hey, maybe I can give you the shirt off my back, that's something that people look highly upon ("He'd give you the shirt off his back").

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Bantam Standings

by El Predicto (Login Re_Laxed)

From Marksey

My picks:
Akewsasne 6-0 (If they start by beating Six Nations)
Whitby 5-1 (could stumble in second game)
Six Nations 5-1
Halton Hills 5-1
Peterborough 4-2
Mimico 4-2
St. Catharines 4-2 ( it will be close)
Orangeville 2-4 (I have St. Kitts beating Orangeville)
Guelph 2-4 (Changed to 3-3)
Welland 2-4
Brampton 0-6 (I have Guelph and Mimico beating them but could go either way) called it
London 0-6 (no A wins, B losses, a couple of ties in Brampton)
KW 0-6 (did not look good at the hammer)


How it ended up:

Akwesasne 4-2 (saw the SN but not Halton)
Whitby 4-2 (St. Kitts suprise)
Six Nations 6-0 (good going)
Halton 4-2 (also bit by St. Kitts)
Peterborough 2-3-1 (had Brampton the other way)
Mimico 1-5 (total miss read)
St. Kitts 4-2 (called it but not that way!)
Orangeville 2-3-1 ( I was close)
Guelph 3-3 (called after the change)
Welland 2-4 (called it)
Brampton 3-3 (close after the change)
K-W 1-5 (again close)
London 0-6 (called it)

I was within a game of everyone except Mimico (after the re think) so not too bad!!

Nobody went 5-1



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Bantam Weekend 1

by VanillaLax (Login VanillaLax)

I would like to congratulate the boys for a great weekend of LAcrosse....Especially the St Catharines team..Their goaltending was one of the main reasons for their wins...Eric Fannell was outstanding in all games he played and against Whitby Doug Buchan played awesome...Great Job boys

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Re: Bantam Standings

by CrayzeeLaxMan (Login CrazeeLaxMan)

According to the lacrosseinsidethegame web-site, there are only 3 changes to report;
1) Mimico went 1-4-1 rather than 1-5. Tied K-W 5-5
2) K-W 1-4-1 as well
3) Guelph went 4-2 rather than 3-3
All in all a very competitive division with the exception of London. To their credit, they did make the jump to A instead of appealing to go B. Growing pains are bound to happen. There were also a couple of interesting twists thrown in for good measure!
Should be interesting!

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Re: Bantam Standings

by (Login dadloveslax)

A few things to keep in mind about London:
1) they have 8-9 1st year Bantams (including one goalie)
2) none of the the 2nd year Bantams have played in A qualies before

Growing pains for sure!, but could be interesting next year!

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Re: Bantam Standings

by upak (Login upak)

London Bantams have 9 first year Bantam runners and 1 first year bantam goalie. Could have lobbied to go "B" but decided to stay "A" where they were ranked.

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Error in Marksey's scores

by laxdad (Login laxdad1)

Peterborough Bantam beat Mimico 9-4 (or something like that). Marksey's site has Mimico winning 4-3.

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Re: Bantam Standings

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peterborough went 3-2-1. should have beaten whitby but the refs blew it.

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Re: Bantam Standings

by Bob (Login laxx74)

Buddy you obviously are a clear idiot, u suck at predicting things

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Re: Bantam Standings

by Bob (Login laxx74)

Buddy you obviously are a clear idiot, u suck at predicting things

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NOTL tourney

by NOTLgoaliemom (Login NOTLgoaliemom)

Congratulations to our NOTL Bantam boys in their hard fought win against Wallaceburg today for the Championship. Great game! Great weekend!

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Re: NOTL tourney

by Laxman2007 (Login Laxman2007)

do you know who won in the other divisions?

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D Final

by El Predicto (Login Re_Laxed)

Burlington over Lincoln in Bantam

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Midget final

by NOTLgoaliemom (Login NOTLgoaliemom)

I believe it was Hamilton and Guelph in the Midget final. I know that it was a very close game. I'm not sure who finally ended up winning it. Anyone?

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Re: Midget final

by anonymous (Login glaxer_24)

guelph won 7-4

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Re:NOTL tourny

by Macdonald Vanessa (Login 2boyznstx)

Congratulations to the Peewee Elora Mohawks for winning in the championship against whitby 2!Way to go boys!

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Ref McD

by Frustrated (Login the_laxian)

I think it's time for you to retire......nuff said

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C Finals

by (Login ANOTHERLAXMOM)

Innisfill(sp?) over Ptbo

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who won the conradi?

by (Login lacrossekid00)

who won the condradi?

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B Final Results

by anotherlaxmom (Login ANOTHERLAXMOM)

Peterborough vs Brampton - Ptbo won (6-3?). Good game in spite of some bad calls. Started to get a bit out of hand but a good call by both the teams to play the end like gentlemen and get the game done. Congrats to both teams. Great games by all the teams we watched - never let it be said this isn't great lacrosse!

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Re: B Final Results

by (Login FEhawks72)

the brampton and FE game did get out of hand. with FE 2 guys taking on 5. another FE guy jumping in to make it 3-5 then 2 brampton guys jumping the bench and its 7-3 brampton and FE stil whooped them. WOOOOO

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wow

by (Login L.A.X)

im very suprised over the 7-6 win from the london blue devils. I thought oakville had it in the bag. Stellar efforts from both sides.

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Re: wow

by (Login L.A.X)

does anyone know if london is A or B?

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Re: wow

by (Login BTender30)

according to the OLA they are a B team, so thats 2 A teams they beat this weekend that i know of. they really stepped it up.

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London Blue Devils

by laxer (Login lax087)

Yah we are rated B, deffinetly stepped up are game this weekend, if only we played like this since the start, we have deffinetly grown as a team.

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Devils at Conradi

by (Login BlueDevils6)

We have never played that well as a team ever... We had guys who haven't socred a single point in god knows how long potting 2-3 goals a game...The Latta snipe, Tony and I both had close to 20 points each, Bertin with the winner 16 seconds into doulbe OT...Goalies were both spectactular...I just hope we can keep it up...That was by far a breakthrough..It must have been Kegger's sister...

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Missing guys..

by (Login BlueDevils6)

We also played well with a banged up roster, Muldoon, Van Boxmeer, Dobie, Chess, and Coumans all out...We'll see if things get any better once they gat back...

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Re: Missing guys..

by (Login BTender30)

leave them out, you guys played awsome, lol

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Re: Missing guys..

by lax087 (Login lax087)

those guys are key players for us and someone of them might of made the differnce in the peterbourgh game or orangeville game

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Congrats Halton!

by (Login Kouj)

couldnt be prouder of my Int. Bulldogs!

Great work by Coach Craig and his boys.

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Re: Congrats Halton!

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i have to admit that i wasn't expecting to see Halton come out on top!

makes me glad that our lowly 'B' team gave them a tough game when we played.

congrats to Halton, make sure you take the same hard work with you into the provincials!

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Re: Congrats Halton!

by Whitby63 (Login Whitby63)

Congrats to Halton on ther win.

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Re: Congrats Halton!

by Sarge (Login SgT_1991)

Not one person thought Halton would be able to achieve what they were able to accomplish this weeknd. Coming out strong against Hamilton, then a shaky lose to clarington, but coming back against Newmarket for a big win. Now playing oville was one of the greatest games id ever played in, both teams played very well, both TENDERS played very well keeping eachothers teams init because both teams had many chances to score through out the course of the game. Halton did take it in the end after a penelty shotwas missed, but seconds later the same player took a shot opposite to the side he had shot on in the penelty shot, scoring and taking the victory. That night Halton had one hell of a night, staying up extreamly late, getting loittle to no sleep, just having good old fun, and went and played a beat up whitby team, halton took the game by a margin of 5 or 4 goals i think... and had to lay around all day till the 5:30 game, where we took on a very strong Beaches team. Beaches had a strong weeknd, but Halton was to much to handel. Even with all the penelty trouble, halton tender played very well once again to hold off the beaches attack.

look forward to seeing you all in Provincials and make sure next time you think bout Oakville, Orangeville, and Beaches, DONT FORGET HALTON BITCHES!!!!! WOOOOOOO

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Re: Congrats Halton!

by laxer42 (Login Robert4242)

i heard Halton aern't even that good of a team
it must of been some sort of luck that they beat Oville
also the Oville player missed the net in OT
if he hit the net obviously it would of went in
Halton Hills are softer then butter

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softer then butter = champions

by fan (Login xcappy04)


haha well I guess "softer then butter" is good enough to win the Conradi?? You say there win over O'ville was a fluke...O'ville is too good of a team to have a fluke loss in a quarter final game, it was a good even game (O'ville did outshoot Halton) that Halton took...you also fail to mention that Halton played all "A" teams this weekend...except for Whitby (who should be A) and went 5-1 to win the tourney.

Average there scores for the weekend...
GF: 7
GA: 3.5...and 8 GA in 3 games in the playoff rounds.

playoff round scores
4-3
8-2
7-3
(19-8 total)

oh and they didnt play a game all weekend with there full bench...only 12/17 guys against O'ville saturday and the most they had for any game was 14...

GO DOGS...CHAMPIONS OF THE CONRADI!!!



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Team Mitt

by (Login Kouj)

Remember.....

let all the talking be done on the floor.

Play hard on the floor and off.

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Re: Team Mitt

by Int fan (Login intfan)

Hamilton is B so there for you played 2 teams that weren't A, and you also didn't go undefeated. But not take away from what the bulldogs did.

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Spartans (Goons, Hillbilly,s)

by Whitby63 (Login Whitby63)

Could not beleive what I saw last night during the Whitby- Spartan game.Whitby came out flying 3 quick goals. Spartan goalie was pissed.He could not stop a beach ball let alone a lacrosse ball. At the start of the second period a Spartan player knocked a Whitby player into goal crease at this time the (Spartan Hillbilly Goaltender) began stomping on the the Whitby players back. Spartan goalie should be gone for atleast a year. Whibty gets a 7 min power play. Whitby scores 2 more goals to go up 5-0.Now all the bullsit starts from the SPARTANS,HILLBILLYS,GOONS what ever you want to call them. Spartan players hit 2 Whitby players from behind which now 2 Spartan players processed to pound on 1 whitby player. Spartan player tries rip out the Whitby players eye by sticking his fingers in his eye. Nothing more than a coward act this player should be kick out of Lacrosse 4 life GOON.I guess the Spartan players & coach don,t no how to lose. Great sportsmanship. One of the most cowardly act Ive see from a team. Spartans Goons,Hillbilly,s good luck at the provincals NOT. Final Whitby 6-1. Have a nice day GOONS. Blaine Simpson Whitby63

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Spartans (Goons, Hillbilly,s)

by Whitby63 (Login Whitby63)

This happened at the Conradi tournament Intermediate.

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Re: Spartans (Goons, Hillbilly,s)

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thats how spartan plays man. they play dirty ****, and i'm pretty sure the coach tells them to. or does not know a inkling of sportsmanship. either way, spartans stink. p.s. why r yu guys going B? (whitby)

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Spartans

by GKW (Login ftlax07)

Congrats to Whitby!!!!!!!

This fan is very happy to see Spartans lose. The OLA should have that team suspended, but you won't see that. To the Spartans players, coaches and parents, you sure don't have any class.

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Re: Spartans (Goons, Hillbilly,s)

by Int fan (Login intfan)

"Could not beleive what I saw last night during the Whitby- Spartan game.Whitby came out flying 3 quick goals. Spartan goalie was pissed.He could not stop a beach ball let alone a lacrosse ball. At the start of the second period a Spartan player knocked a Whitby player into goal crease at this time the (Spartan Hillbilly Goaltender) began stomping on the the Whitby players back. Spartan goalie should be gone for atleast a year. Whibty gets a 7 min power play. Whitby scores 2 more goals to go up 5-0.Now all the bullsit starts from the SPARTANS,HILLBILLYS,GOONS what ever you want to call them. Spartan players hit 2 Whitby players from behind which now 2 Spartan players processed to pound on 1 whitby player. Spartan player tries rip out the Whitby players eye by sticking his fingers in his eye. Nothing more than a coward act this player should be kick out of Lacrosse 4 life GOON.I guess the Spartan players & coach don,t no how to lose. Great sportsmanship"

Now replace the words "spartan"with "whitby" and then take out the original "whitby" and insert "st'kitts" or "ath;etics" and you have a pretty accurate account of the st.kitts v. whitby game saturday afternoon.Honestly when you complain about another team make sure yours is not cut from the same cloth.

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Spartans (Goons, Hillbilly,s)

by Whitby63 (Login Whitby63)

Hey Intfan: I don,t no what game you were watching but I did not see any stomping on players or trying to rip out a players eyes. If you beleive in these action you are just as much a LOSER as the SPARTANS. Have a nice day GOOF.

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Been called worse by better people

by Int fan (Login intfan)

But seriously stop the whining. Your obviously over 16 so stop acting as if you dropped little johnny wrecked your sandcastle.

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Re: Spartans (Goons, Hillbilly,s)

by (Login MG07)

i was at the st. kitt's / whitby game on saturday and i didn't see much dirty stuff from either team. also saw whitby play against missassauga on friday, same thing there.

also want to say that i wasn't at the spartan game, so i can't comment on it specifically - but i HAVE seen the spartan tender stomp on a player before, earlier this season (and they were winning at the time).

just thought i'd throw that in as a neutral that isn't affiliated with any of the associations in question.

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hahaha

by Lacrosse Fan (Login laxfan420)

Whitby is hilarious, they started off running the spartan keeper while in his own crease from behind (no penalty) then a couple minutes later took a cheap shot at him by throwing the ball at him 5 seconds after the 30 second horn goes. Whitby was up 3-0 but the game was closer then it appeared as the Whitby goalie was keeping his team alive. The Second Period the Spartans goalie did "step" on the player but if you slide under his foot that wouldn't be called a stomp in my books. The a whitby player then tackled the goalie from behind, they attacked the keeper but no fights occurred thanks to the players of spartans holding back the SAVAGE whitby players. Anyways The Spartan Goalie was pulled by his own bench, i guess as a way to protect him from Whitby GOONS (had to capitalize for blaine). The Spartan other goalie comes in to replace the original keeper, there was about a 15 minute break to decide on what to give the goalie. Anyways whitby then scored there first 2 shots on net, and after it was 5-0 whitby had the thought to showboat after that, i guess someone who can spell GOON can also be a goon. Anyways about 10 minutes left spartans had had enough taunting after scoring a goal from about the blue line, the spartans players were getting rowdy. The play that started two simultaneous fights was a loose ball, after a whitby player punched a spartan player it was on. Spartans may loose a game here and there but they are a no decision knockout choice for toughest team in the league, they pumped both whitby players before they could even turtle. Anyways the aftermath, was drunk whitby parents trying to fight spartan players because there son got there ass handed to them. Both teams showed no class. Drunk Whitby fans showed no class, and even me being friends with the Spartan keeper he showed no class, true Whitby beat spartan, la de da, they also lost to St. Catharine's. So it goes to show if your not going "A" it doesn't mean your not a quality team, but it does mean your playing "B" at provincials. sincerly Jesse C.

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Spartans (Goons, Hillbilly,s)

by Whitby63 (Login Whitby63)

So you are telling me the Spartans pulled there goalie???. Than you say there was a 15 min delay so the ref could decide what he was going to give the goalie for stomping the Whitby player???.I think you must of been one of the drunken Spartan fans. I know I was surrounded by a bunch of drunk Spartan fans and Hillbilly parents.

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Grow up both of you

by Int fan (Login intfan)

you have be atleast 16 to play INT, but i guess thats only the age on your birth certificate and not your mental state. Stop acting like children and playing th blame game, Its obvious both teams were at fault and whitby has a long history of starting stuff in tourneys(05 in WD, 07 in the Conradi) and spartan has started down the same path so it seems. Neither team will be playing much in august if they can't grow up and play the game like men.

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Re: hahaha

by (Login Spartan10)

Alright well I don't know what Jesse C you are, but I'm Jesse Cotton.

As far as the Whitby game goes it wasn't much of one. At one point the Whitby coach even hurled his chewed piece of gum into our bench which I thought was classless, but it wasn't the classiest of games either.

What I think is ridiculous is the Eye gouging topic. The Whitby player got in a fight and he lost. His Brow was cut from being punched. By no means should that be considered an "eye gouge".

My team is not a goon squad. If we played Whitby a second time we could prove it, but they are going "B" at provincials so we won't have that opportunity.

As far as being HillBillies though:
Population Whitby 111,184 < 129,300 Population St.Catharines
If you're going to label a team at least try not to sound like an idiot.

Posted on Jul 16, 2008, 12:56 AM
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The medical report would say differently Mr. Cotton.

by BaileyQuarters (Login BaileyQuarters)

The players eye was examined at the arena by two quallified nursing practioners, the ambulance crew and the doctor at the hospital. There is a sratch on his nose, his eye lid was ripped for 7 stitches. Punches are generally thrown at the bow area, not inside the eye socket.

Incidently, the nice lady Rose, who runs the tournament, the tournament convenor and the RIC all got to see the boy's eye on the Sunday, at Meridian Arena, they all commented that the injury did not look like it came from a punch. The other whitby player, got 6 stiches above the brow, that was from a punch.

You are correct in your assessment of a classless game, from both teams. Can't change what happened, but hope that everyone can go forward and play the game, the way it is meant to be played. With skill and controlled agression. Intermediate coaches have a tough time telling players 16-21 years old that their first thought stepping onto a playing surface, should be finding a way to prevent a goal or to help put his team ahead....instead of going out their to fight and giving the other team the PP. If you watched closely, most teams got their goals this weekend on the PP, that's how good all the goalies are at this level.

In my oppinion, that's the difference between Junior and Intermediate, it's not neccessarily skill, but what's between the ears.



Posted on Jul 16, 2008, 9:07 AM
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Re: The medical report would say differently Mr. Cotton.

by (Login loveslacrosse)

"In my oppinion, that's the difference between Junior and Intermediate, it's not neccessarily skill, but what's between the ears."

The above are your words, your post is otherwise well written and sounds reasonably accurate. However your last dig at so many great young men who play Intermediate lacrosse is offensive and just plain stupid. Yes it may be your opinion and thats fine, but personally I believe you should re-think your opinion. its true there are players that can not make Junior playing but isnt that the system? There are players that can not commit the time Junior requires and there are players that plain and simply do not want to play Junior for whatever the reason. For those players that may take offense to the above opinion, remember that for the most part this is not you this person speaks of. For over the last many years I have met hundreds of great young men within Intermediate Lacrosse. No different then any situtation there are university,college and high school students and yes as in all walks of life there are those lacking between the ears. I am just thankfull that they are the minority.

Posted on Jul 16, 2008, 4:48 PM
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Jesse Cotton

by Whitby63 (Login Whitby63)

Well Jesse the player was not cut in the eye brow. His eye lid top and bottom were ripped for stitches and has scratches on his nose.From what I hear the Spartan player has been suspened for the rest of the year. The ref seen the player gouge the other players eye and was reported. As for the goalie stompping the player I heard he got 4 games.I hope both team can put this behind them. Blaine

Posted on Jul 16, 2008, 10:59 AM
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Re: Spartans (Goons, Hillbilly,s)

by (Login jambo06)

i didnt know you guys were playing soccer, i think whitby needs to stop being little girls an man up to the sport they are apparently playing

Posted on Jul 14, 2008, 5:45 PM
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Who won the conradi against who

by Gary (Login kemplen)

who won

Posted on Jul 13, 2008, 7:10 PM
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