1. Mississauga IceDogs – GTHL
2. Brampton Battalion – OMHA
3. Waterloo Wolves – MHAO
4. Whitby Wildcats – OMHA
5. Toronto Marlboros – GTHL
6. Detroit Honeybaked 91’s - USA
7. Detroit Belle Tire U16’s – USA
8. Cambridge Hawks - MHAO
9. Little Caesars – USA
10. London Jr. Knights – MHAO
11. Niagara Falls Thunder - OMHA
12. Greater Kingston Predators – ODMHA
13. Thunder Bay Kings - HNO
14. GNML Allstars - GNML
15. Barrie Colts - OMHA
16. Windsor Spitfires - MHAO
17. Toronto Young Nationals - GTHL
18. New York Select Allstars - USA
19. Mississauga Rebels - GTHL
20. Nepean Raiders - ODMHA

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There will be 4 postions from each Ontario Area + 1 Northern granted a spot. 3 US teams will granted and the rest will be fill-ins. here is a most likely situation


1. Mississauga IceDogs – GTHL #1
2. Brampton Battalion – OMHA #1
3. Waterloo Wolves – MHAO #1
4. Whitby Wildcats – OMHA #2
5. Toronto Marlboros – GTHL #2
6. Detroit Honeybaked 91’s - USA #1
7. Detroit Belle Tire U16’s – USA #2
8. Cambridge Hawks - MHAO #2
9. Little Caesars – USA #3
10. Greater Kingston Predators – ODMHA #1
11. Barrie Colts - OMHA #3
12. Thunder Bay Kings - HNO #1
13. Toronto Young Nationals - GTHL #3 ( not deserving )
14. Toronto Jr. Canadiens - GTHL #4 ( not deserving )
15. Mississauga Rebels - GTHL (Should be # 3 but will be added)
16. Ottawa Valley - ODMHA #2
17. Nepean Raiders - ODMHA #3
18. London Jr. Knights – MHAO #3
19. Windsor Spitfires - MHAO #4 ( might get bumped )
20. Central Ontario Wolves - OMHA #4

Ajax Pickering Raiders - OMHA (Waiting List)
Niagara Falls Thunder - OMHA (Waiting list)
Hamilton Bull Dogs - OMHA (Waiting List)
Gloucester - ODMHA (Waiting List)

New York Select Allstars - USA ( TBD)
GNML Allstars - GNML (TBD)

What about the Red Wings? Do you think they will get in?

1st list is accurate, 2nd list is wishful thinking.

Teams have to earn their place and many in 2nd list have not.

l heard the flyers are in this tournament they are going in ranked 5th. Go FLYERS Go... they rock!!!!!

hamilton has been playing good latly anyone now wether they are in?

Why is the North having a team this year? When they didnt the last few?

The Green giant

i believe the invites wer given out today!!! find out from your coaches asap... the coach of my sons team informed us today (this is not a joke)

is this for real ?

no, not a joke, the invitations were sent out and confirmed today...it can't really be proven unless a coach wants to paste their confirmation email in the threads.

It should be posted on the website.

link anyone?

The teams are not posted but here is the link:

http://www.ontariohockeyleague.com/ohlcup/

we were notified friday through our organization GM to our coach.

on second list weres the second team from scta area???

somebody post the breakdown on how teams are placed in OHL CUP!!

from the OHL website:

"The champions and finalists from minor hockey associations in Ontario, including the GTHL, OMHA, ODMHA, the Alliance and a representative from the NOHA will participate in the tournament, along with additional teams identified by the Tournament Selection Committee. "

wow thanks that help a lot!

confirmed from the GTHL: the remaining 4 teams.

are there going to be 2 more wild cards from the GTHL?

The top american teams generally don't come to the OHL cup because they are in the middle of their playoffs for the National Championship. This opens up more spots for Canadian teams.

hmmmm

If anyone NY Rangers will be added.

Atlanta TPH Confirmed.

who the **** is that?

1. Mississauga IceDogs – GTHL
2. Brampton Battalion – OMHA
3. Waterloo Wolves – MHAO
4. Whitby Wildcats – OMHA
5. Toronto Marlboros – GTHL
6. Detroit Honeybaked 91’s - USA
7. Detroit Belle Tire U16’s – USA
8. Cambridge Hawks - MHAO
9. Little Caesars – USA
10. London Jr. Knights – MHAO
11. Niagara Falls Thunder - OMHA
12. Greater Kingston Predators – ODMHA
13. Thunder Bay Kings - HNO
14. Atlanta TPH - USA
15. Toronto Young Nats GTHL
16. Barrie Colts - OMHA
17. Toronto Jr Canadians - GTHL
18. New York Select Allstars - USA
19. Mississauga Rebels - GTHL
20. Nepean Raiders - ODMHA

is this list on their web site or is it a wish list?

NOT published on site.

"Confirmed List. Good luck to All. February 25 2007, 9:43 PM

1. Mississauga IceDogs – GTHL
2. Brampton Battalion – OMHA
3. Waterloo Wolves – MHAO
4. Whitby Wildcats – OMHA
5. Toronto Marlboros – GTHL
6. Detroit Honeybaked 91’s - USA
7. Detroit Belle Tire U16’s – USA
8. Cambridge Hawks - MHAO
9. Little Caesars – USA
10. London Jr. Knights – MHAO
11. Niagara Falls Thunder - OMHA
12. Greater Kingston Predators – ODMHA
13. Thunder Bay Kings - HNO
14. Atlanta TPH - USA
15. Toronto Young Nats GTHL
16. Barrie Colts - OMHA
17. Toronto Jr Canadians - GTHL
18. New York Select Allstars - USA
19. Mississauga Rebels - GTHL
20. Nepean Raiders - ODMHA "

so, essery, since when are you such a good source of information? did you guys get your invite or not?

Don't believe this ****e. League cahmions and finalists need to be dtermined 1st. Wilcards will be announced up to 1 week ahead of the event. For the record, the Jr. Cdns will not be one of those teams invited.

For the record, JC's have;

beat Mississauga IceDogs once,
beat Toronto Marlboros three times,
tied London Jr. Knights,
tied Toronto Young Nats,
tied Barrie Colts,
tied Mississauga Rebels (total of 10 games)
tied Nepean Raiders

The record speaks for itself.

you must be joking.

do this board a favour and go back to the hole you crawled out of.

Yeah Mr. O you are a joke. Campaign all you want the JC's and your little boy didn't earn the spot.

Love these lists and they make no sense. For example 2 from ODMHA someone else says 4 - if Gloucestor beats Nepean (which looks likely) then can you imagine telling the ODMHA champion/finalist they don't get to go to OHL cup????? Have fun speculating

Over half a dozen prospects who were consensus first rounders three months ago will not be rated in the top twenty come draft day. Why? Scouts are concerned about;

(1) parents meddling
(2) politicing coaches
(3) attitude towards fellow players
(4) lack of raw talent
(5) not living up to the hype

Careful what you wish for TR, JB, AA, MF, RO etc.

Boy you hit that right on the head! Couldn't of said it better myself.

Scouts want to see O'Reilly so put him on another team because the rest are not worthy at all , nyr are better than the canadiens

yes, i agree, your record does speak for itself; but you have to look at the COMPLETE record... here's a few parts you left out...

loss to Red wings;
loss to Sens;
a loss to Markham;
2 losses to Wexford (one of those was 5-1);
two spankings by the Dogs (7-1 & 7-2);

didn't advance at the Marlie tournament...

and what happened in that tournament in Ottawa; a tie with Nepean, i think, but how did that finish up?

your successes tended to be early in the season; you seemed to have a tougher time as the league progressed?

and finally: a first round exit from the playoffs....

cheer up JCs... on balance, you have a good team; not as good as Marlies & Nats & Dogs & Brampton & Whitby... but good. with 20 teams in the OHL cup, after they get past the automatic / obvious choices, there will be a couple extra wild card spots, and i think you guys will get one, and i think thats ok, as JC's are just as deserving as many of the other teams who are "good", but not quite as good as the best....

so relax.... take a deep breath.... and, maybe:

stop advertising on this site & inviting everyone else in the league to throw tomatoes at you...

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JC's blanked Gloucester and NYR also beat Gloucester in Ottawa. If they are your league champions, then I agree with others that at least 6 GTHL teams should get in. Based on what I've seen, the other leagues are producing Grinders this year.

Finally, everyone is forgetting the most important thing and that is goaltending. It is not a coincident that of the teams left in the play-offs, each team has one of the best goaltenders in the league.

not so sure about the nats goaltending... but i suppose there dad's will be on here defending them in no time, not that it matters

Take the top 4 from each league before the JC's.

Well the GTHL should not more than 4 teams in this years tournament, but the meddling GHTL heads will see to it that they do. should the JC's be invited, more than likely not, but I would not be suprised if they were. They are only and average team. But so is the Nats and they will get and invite as well and they will throw in the Rebels for good measure.

ok, now you tell us your team who happens to be more deserving...saying the JC's would be an iffy pick is tolerable, but then to call out the nats and rebels? these two teams have plus .700 records against teams from other leagues, so if you're going to question their selection, you better be ready to back it up. so let's hear it

Based on skill alone 6 GTHL teams should be there. Like I told you before, after Honey Baked, Dogs and Brampton you can throw everyone in a hat and pick a team.

For example this is what happened last year in the OHL CUP when you bring in grinder teams outside the GTHL;

Quinte Red Devils 0 wins 3 loses 0 ties GF 4 GA 12 PIM 65
Cumberland Barons 0 wins 2 loses 1 tie GF 7 GA 13 PIM 71
Richmond Hill Stars 0 wins 3 loses 0 ties GF 3 GA 10 PIM 50

GTHL 91's is the weakest league in GTHL history. 1st go to the top 4 in every other league, then look at bottom feeders like NYR and JRCdns.

Remember this is the "OHL" Cup and not the Ontario Championship. Make no mistake about it-it is a Scouting Tournament. Final decisions on filling the list will be Finalists and then prospects.Wild Cards will go to placing and prospects.If you are fifth place with 3 or less prospects and not headed to your finals-your season is over.

Are we talking AA prospects that can play in the OHL next year? Or are we talking prospects 1-2 years away? GTHL teams have better skilled players. The above post hits it bang on re "grinder teams" in the previous OHL Cup.

According to some it would ok to sacrifice players like; O'Reilly, Tresham, McEachan, Essery, Merman, Esscot, Campbell, Stelleck, Blacker....to mention a few, for players outside the GTHL that have built their teams around their goaltender by playing the trap. Unless I'm missing something here, skill is the direction both OHL and NHL took two years ago.

JC's are a skilled bunch of players who were asked to be plumbers mid-way through the season by forcing them to trap instead of utilizing their speed and skill with relentless fore-check, constant puck and foot movement through all three zones. They started the season 8-1-3 by playing this way.

NYR's problem stemmed mostly from key player suspensions in the play-offs and of course, discipline, in the end did them in.

Wings had a good solid team that had problems scoring. Here's a team that could have finished higher in the standings if not for lack of scoring. That was there only problem and of course they too had discipline problems.

With all due respect to all, hypothetically, if you were to switch Stajer to anyone of these three teams, anyone of these teams could have finished as high as second place in the standings ahead of the Marlies and Nats.

And finally, both NYR and JC's had Conn Smythe performances by opposing puck stoppers, especially in their final game and is the reason why they are on the outside looking in. All things being equal, both teams should have won their series against their respective teams.

Gloucestor is know in the OHL Cup after beating Nepean in the ODMHA semi-final. Nepean now has to hope for a wild-card spot. Winner of Kingston and Ottawa Valley will determine the other ODMHA spot at the OHL Cup.

Only 2 GTHL teams are ranked in the top 13 so I hardly doubt the NATS, REBELS, NYR AND JRC's will ALL be ranked somewhere in the 14-20 spots. Face it the G stinks this year.

Thank you. Now my point is reinforced. There should be at least 6 GTHL teams, maybe 7. Gloucester was shut out in a lopsided loss to JC's in Ottawa. They're a trapping team who love to finish their checks and cheap shot skilled players.

"Confirmed List. Good luck to All. February 25 2007, 9:43 PM

1. Mississauga IceDogs – GTHL
2. Brampton Battalion – OMHA
3. Waterloo Wolves – MHAO
4. Whitby Wildcats – OMHA
5. Toronto Marlboros – GTHL
6. Detroit Honeybaked 91’s - USA
7. Detroit Belle Tire U16’s – USA
8. Cambridge Hawks - MHAO
9. Little Caesars – USA
10. London Jr. Knights – MHAO
11. Niagara Falls Thunder - OMHA
12. Greater Kingston Predators – ODMHA
13. Thunder Bay Kings - HNO
14. Atlanta TPH - USA
15. Toronto Young Nats GTHL
16. Barrie Colts - OMHA
17. Toronto Jr Canadians - GTHL
18. New York Select Allstars - USA
19. Mississauga Rebels - GTHL
20. Nepean Raiders - ODMHA "

This is no "confirmed" list! The SCTA tournament isn't for another two weeks and the OMHA's aren't for three weeks. So how can you project who will be there?

Take out teams 17 - 20 as there is no way those teams should be there. I can think of a few teams that deserve it more: (Not in order) Gloucester, Lambton Sting , Burlington Eagles, Ajax-Pickering, Central-Ontario, Hamilton Bulldogs.

like it's been said before, the remaining GTHL teams have been confirmed, i'm not making this up, so you can forget about the possibility that the Icedogs, Marlies, Nats and Rebels will be left out, because each team has been confirmed to play. with that being said, not all teams have been selected because (as you mentioned) the OMHA still has a lot of sorting out to do.

Another team from your list the JC's played and beat.

74.12.104.195
i would half to disagree with you, gloucester is not a team that plays the trap but more of a team that beats you with there speed and passing. and in that 5-1 loss they had in ottawa to the JC's, they had there other goalie in nets(not Dupuis) and he played terrible that game.

So you agree with me, goaltending is the most important position.

In the 5-1 JC win, JC's had better specialty teams and play was pretty much even 5 on 5. Now they are in the finals. That pretty much sums it up.

I guess I forgot to take into account the GTHL final four: Icedogs, Marlies, Nats and Rebels.

Let me restate my comment to say that the teams I did mention should receive serious consideration as all of them have had success vs the top OHL Cup ranked teams. The OMHA tournament will determine three of the teams as the Gold, Silver and Bronze winners will qualify. The final four in the Alliance should produce at least three teams from them: Lambton, London, Waterloo or Cambridge.

Gloucester has to be considered purely based on their outstanding performance in the ODMHA regular season and playoffs.I would say that they and Kingston are the top two from that league with Nepean and Ottawa Valley up there as well.

i think we should just skip the whole selection process and have OHL Cup tournament finals already...let's say Toronto Jr. Canadiens vs. Gloucester Rangers. from what i've heard/seen on this site, those two teams can beat everyone, so why bother with the minor details (ie. round robin, playoffs, etc.)

are you happy now? will you stop with the self-promotion? thanks.

If the OHL Cup is taking in 5th 6th and 7th place teams that didn't earn the right to be there then the Elgin Middlesex Chiefs, Sun County Panters, Burlington Eagles, Guelph Storm, Grey Bruce Highlanders, YSE, Peterborough Petes and Clarington Toros are packed and ready to go.

hahaha great point!

arent the top 2 american teams not supposed to attend so probably belle tire and honeybaked

I watch a lot of games for a scout who can't get to a lot of games and let me tell you what I think. The GTHL is deeper in talent than most of you folks are lead to believe in this post.

To me it's about seeing on centre stage going head to head the likes of O'Reilly, Fowler, Holland, Martindale, Ryan and Dueshane at the OHL Cup. It's about watching this group playing against each other creating new rivalries.

Watching the 1990 U17 team play with each other and all talk about their OHL Cup experience is special.

A scout who can't go to games get his friend who can't spell to the games for him. Scary. In paragraph one he says the GTHL is deep yet only one GTHL player is mentioned. Is it just me or is the scout's friend none other than Mr O? What a scumbag.

I agree its good to see these kids going head to head and you will at the U17 camps but why allow an unworthy team into the OHL cup that has 1 AA and 1 A player (only) when there is a better TEAM that earned it's place with 7 A players ?

"If the OHL Cup is taking in 5th 6th and 7th place teams that didn't earn the right to be there then the Elgin Middlesex Chiefs, Sun County Panters, Burlington Eagles, Guelph Storm, Grey Bruce Highlanders, YSE, Peterborough Petes and Clarington Toros are packed and ready to go."

What is the criteria for a team 'earning' the right to be at the OHL Cup? I think firstly it needs to be clearly understood that the OHL Cup is NOT an Ontario Championship tournament. It is for the sole purposes of being a showcase tournament for the OHL Teams to see the best talent from all leagues go head to head in one tournament. They obviously select teams based on their league play (hence the final four of the GTHL, the top three at the OMHA's, etc.) but they also look at the competitiveness of the teams throughout the year in big tournaments. Some of the teams you listed above did very well in tournament play and defeated some of the top OHL Cup seeds in the process.

Anyone know anything about these guys?

I like Thunder Bay!

can someone post the schedule if it is out

You guys are all a bunch of insane losers and need to get your heads fukking checked. It's just boys playing a game and you're at each other like it's Leafs vs. Canadiens 1967. Get a ****in' grip!

You can bet your ass that the OHL Cup isn't going to change much with regards to OHL draft rankings. If anything, a kid or two might drop, but if you think guys like Tavares or Stamkos were picked based on their performances at the OHL Cup I've got a piece of **** in my shorts to sell you for $100,000.

I typically just lurk through these forums because it's entertaining to watch mentally ill retar.ds with anger management issues argue over whose kid puts a small piece of black rubber into netting better. But something had to be said.

Criteria is teams need to be consistent. JC's as well as many other average teams just haven't been consistent this year. They have 1 over promoted good player and 1 average player and a bunch of no names. So should they be invited ? If yes, then take a look at St. Catherines. Same scenario basically. So should they get an invite as well? There are alot of players that are deserving to be at this showcase but the teams they play on are unfortunately not deserving. For example Burlington, another average team but have 3 strong players, should they get invited based on the 3 players or their teams mediocre merits. List goes on and on.

i guess what we can take from the whole selection process is clearly the GTHL is the best league in ontario.

Yep! ...and apples + oranges = geese. Glad we got that out of the way.

The GTHL is the strongest league in Ontario whether you like it or not, there will be 6 teams getting in from the G. THe remaining 4 are guaranteed spots, 2 wildcards left from the G: probably NYR and JCS

lol betcha the top two teams aren't from the GTHL

The JC's and NYR have beaten or tied half the teams that are confirmed, more than once. That should be the criteria, plus the #1 over all pick being there. Imagine Stamkos or Del Zotto not participating last year. Enough said.

Are you all on crack? Its Red Wings all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ummm...cept stamkos and del zotto were on half decent teams (whereas the JC's and NYR's are garbage)

The JC/Ranger fan club just won't give it up. I guess when the teams are announced we will know....

Jusy and FYI KNOW ONE IS CONFIRMED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yes THERE ARE TEAMS CONFIRMED

Some teams are comfirmed based on meeting pre-exisiting criteria.

There are some Highly like and assumed teams, but no one is confirmed as yet!

not true. the ohl has indeed sent out invites to numerous teams.

There might be a few suprises, but this list is now getting much closer..
There are couple of variables since the SCTA still has not started playoffs and the Semi's of the ETA are just starting.
I cannot really comment on the US base teams other than the Michigan based ones which most of us have seen and are familiar with, and the OHL Cup keeps mentioning.

1. Mississauga IceDogs ( Runner up or winner GTHL )
2. Brampton Battalion ( Gold, Silver or Bronze Medalist OMHA )
3. Waterloo Wolves ( Runner up or winner MHAO )
4. Whitby Wildcats ( Gold, Silver or Bronze Medalist OMHA )
5. Toronto Marlboros ( Consideration Season and Playoffs )
6. Detroit Honeybaked 91’s ( Open Invite )
7. Detroit Belle Tire U16’s ( Open Invite )
8. Cambridge Hawks ( Runner up or winner MHAO )
9. Little Caesars ( open invite )
10. Greater Kingston Predators ( Runner up or winner ODMHA )
11. Barrie Colts ( Gold, Silver or Bronze Medalist OMHA )
12. Thunder Bay Kings - HNO ( Open Invite )
13. Toronto Young Nationals - GTHL ( Runner up or winner GTHL )
14. Gloucester ( Runner up or winner ODMHA )
15. Mississauga Rebels - ( Consideration Season and Playoffs )
16. Ottawa Valley ( Consideration Season and playoffs )
17. Hamilton Bull Dogs ( Consideration Season and playoffs )
18. London Jr. Knights ( Consideration Season and playoffs )
19. Niagara Falls ( Consideration Season and Playoffs )
20. Central Ontario ( Consideration Season and playoffs )

nepean is not going because gloucester beat them out in the playoffs so there done for the year and gloucester is in.

JC's and NYR have beaten or tied half the teams listed. The Rebels beat Dogs last night and Dogs are #1 ranked team. Say Rebels win the GTHL play-offs, how does it make the GTHL look then? 6 or 7 teams should go from the GTHL. I can tell you Rebels would beat Nats or Marlies for sure.

74.12.104.106 Re: OHL Cup Teams March 1 2007, 11:18 AM


JC's and NYR have beaten or tied half the teams listed. The Rebels beat Dogs last night and Dogs are #1 ranked team. Say Rebels win the GTHL play-offs, how does it make the GTHL look then? 6 or 7 teams should go from the GTHL. I can tell you Rebels would beat Nats or Marlies for sure.

Here we go again. Listen for the last time!

there are 13 positions spoken for via winning their league or our right invites as per US teams and the north. That leaves only 7 spots for what is deemed deserving invites. As for NYR tell me what they have done NOTHING!!!!!!!!
JC's another NOTHING!!!!! other than they had a bit of a spurt at the end of the season.

And NO! 6 or 7 teams from the G should go. What are you on crack! if either of these teams make it its purely on politial bull SHIIT not merit.

PLEASE GO AWAY!!!!!!

RED WINGS IN! JUST CONFIRMED CHECK YOUR EMAIL!! SO ARE THE JC'S
GTHL IS THE CENTRE OF THE UNIVERSE

lol is this all jokes or have these teams been invited... where do you find this?

If the Rebels win, that proves once again that the GTHL is the best league! Even if they don't they have proven with their performance in the play-offs that there is parity in the G. Last year it was sixth place Flyers that won the play-offs and all teams ahead in the standings were invited to the OHL Cup. This year there are another 4 teams going for a total of 20. Congrats to JC's and NYR they deserve to go!

I have heard that all 8 playoff teams from the GTHL will get an invite. This would inc the Red Wings and the Sens. Last year when there were 16 teams 6 rec'd invites. This year all 8 playoff teams since they have expanded it to 20. Any one else hearing the same thing?

nope

I am. And it true about parity. Rebels are proving it in the play-offs now! The GTHL is the best league in Ontario, bar none.

You canot really go by what happened last year because the gthl is much weaker this year as they are the Hosts and they expanded this tournament. Srry but the Dogs, Marlies, Nats and Rebels have consistently showed skill and talent the whole year around and are on top when it counts, in the playoffs. NYR and JCs have came up with a few big games throughout the season and aside from O'Reilly on Jc and Tresham on NYR, there aren't any other reasons why these teams would be invited as some of the wildcard. Remember the scouts are looking for team players not 1-man teams. The only really exception i can see is for the JR's where scouts mayt want to have a good look at O'Reilly and Mcfarland play against the best in Ontario.

Its true. There was heavy discussion among OHL selection committee about whether to invite 6 or 8. 8 Gthl teams will be invited. The top 8. The top 4 with North York Rangers and Junior Canadiens makes sense as Jr.C's have a key prospect and North York has had success in tournament play knocking off top teams. The Red Wings and Sens were questionable but Joe Simon is well connected with the OHL and the Sens and Redwings had good showings near the end of the season. Besides the OHL wants to showcase Canadian kids over kids from Atlanta who have no intention whatsoever of playing in the OHL. Word is also the a couple of northern teams who were supposed to come down are no longer coming down.

i'll first state that i am a GTHL-backer, and i think the more GTHL teams, the better...but...including 8 teams in the tournament is pushing it. i remember the 87's draft year where teams were killing themselves by the end of the year to get into the tournament. now it seems like making the playoffs is all that is necessary and teams arent playing with any sense of urgency (as long as they get in), which i predict will lead to this tournament's credibility taking some serious blows

Yep widening the playing field has already hurt the credibility of the event. Top 16 teams, earned base don your own league play, top 2-3 teams per league. That's enough.

red wings & JC'S in along with the final four in the playoffs.....that's it that's all. Posted on OHL Website.

www.ontariohockeyleague/ohlcup/teams.com

not accusing you of lying but...either you didn't give us the right web link (or you're lying)

How can you keep a team out that represents half of the Marlies losses for the entire season. Marlies lost a total of 6 games the entire year and 3 to the JC's. That would be insane.

Give it up man .... this is the OHL cup not the GTHL cup, it doesn't matter if you beat the Marlies 3 times. The Marlies are a better overall team and will be there as will other deserving teams.

Just because you beat a team that deserves to be there, doesn't mean that by default that your team should be there as well.

Wexford tied the Rebels, tied the Marlies and beat the JC's 66%% of the time, outscoring them 13-9.

ya congratulations, thats why you play a whole season against everyone, last time you didnt make the playoffs so keep quiet and start training for next year. maybe with the high end players off to better things, you just might make the playoffs?

last time i checked***

does anyone know when the next set of rankings come out, or more like re-rankings for what has being goin on in the playoffs?

......213.77 Hey crack head, didn't Flyers beat the Rebels in the last week of the season with fourth place on the line?

Big deal. What matters is that the Rebels beat the JRC's out of an OHL Cup spot, and made R.O. cry like a girl. Ya fat alcoholic.

LOL O'rielly didn't actually cry did he? C'mon hes not that much of a softass... right?

Did you see Ryan Smith and Mark Messier cry? Are those two guy pussies? Dick!

When a professional player is honoured or gets traded by/ from a team that they've established themselves with is one thing. It's totally different when a player balls like a baby after losing a qualifying series in minor hockey.

So to answer your question Smyth and Messier aren't softies.

So what you are saying is that these two developed crying later in life? I don't think so. They are both emotional men. You see the word e-motion-al, the key part of the word is motion. Movement. Not standing still. You see people that show emotion work harder than most because they don't want ever experience that feeling of losing again.

Messier - emotions similar to graduating, having a 1st born, seeing a child get married, or being honoured by his jersey being retired.

Smyth - Emotions similar to when there is a loss of a Grandparent, when you lose a best friend, when a hot babe breaks your heart, or when you get traded from a team where you've played your heart out.

R.O. - Emotions like when you lose a teddy bear, when your Dad takes the blanky away, when you can't get that candy at the grocery store.

not true, but i guess that's what happens when you're from the drew rosenhaus school of emotions.

208.10.131.8 your examples are out to lunch. It all depends on what "meaning" you have been taught to attach to your e-motion.

Someone else could attach a different meaning to the emotion to as you say, "when your grandparent dies." He/she might have been taught to associate the meaning that "its part of life" and we all die. Obviously, he has been taught to associate that losing is not acceptable and it's a signal to work harder.

Makes sense.

If things don't go my way I'll cry (and blame it on someone else).

Nice life skills.

are you kidding me? i don't care at all that the JC's got beat out (in fact i'm happy and i hope they dont make the OHL cup) but once you've worked all year long with a team that you eventually look upon as brothers, it's hard to keep your emotions wrapped up. obviously you've never been in a situation like that, and obviously you are overestimating the emotional structure of a teenager compared to yourself (who, i'm assuming, is a grown man).

yea, i was a psych major

So "there's no crying in baseball" but there is in hockey?

This kid reminds me of that sucky kid in the neighbourhood who always took his net home in a snit when he didn't get his way in road hockey.

"I'm not having fun because I'm losing. And if I don't get my way, I won't play anymore."

Of course, we needed the net to play, so we promised the little baby we'd all play nicer.

This kids parents need to let him know that it's OK to cry while experiencing a loss, rejection, or injury, but not in front of his peer group.

People are quick to jump all over what they see as a weakness, so holding back tears in front of friends probably isn't a bad idea.

A few other things his parents might want to consider:

*Take his crying very seriously.
*Pay particular attention to his crying when it has no apparent reason.
*Get help for his uncontrolled crying, particularly when he's balling like an 8 year old school girl.

Your welcome.

k so .. who is ACTUALLY going .. no lies ...

gloucester and kingston are goin from the ODMHA, Valley might get a wild card but it would be a long shot.

The thing is that although the list of teams invited may be finalized, it remains to be seen which of these teams will accept. It usually is that a handful may not be able to enter the tournament, for geographic reasons or, in the case of American teams, due to their ongoing playoffs.

Here is the breakdown of the as to how the OHL Cup will draw
5 from the OMHA
4 from the GTHL
4 from the MHAO
3 from the ODMHA
3 from the U.S.
1 from the NHO


here is the most likely team selection based on thier draw.



Whitby Wildcats – OMHA
Barrie Colts - OMHA
Central Ontario - OMHA
Brampton Battalion – OMHA
Niagara Falls Thunder - OMHA

Mississauga IceDogs – GTHL
Mississauga Rebels - GTHL
Toronto Marlboros – GTHL
Toronto Young Nats GTHL

Waterloo Wolves – MHAO
Cambridge Hawks - MHAO
London Jr. Knights – MHAO
Windsor jr. Spitfires - MHAO

Greater Kingston Predators – ODMHA
Gloucester - ODMHA
Ottawa Valley - ODMHA

Atlanta TPH - USA
Detroit Belle Tire U16’s – USA
Honeybaked - USA

Thunder Bay Kings - HNO

ok, great to hear your OPINION.

that looks like a good list could be right on for the ontario teams.. i don't no which american teams already have other commitments so it's hard to say aboout them.

An NHL player agent told me today the good American teams will be in the play-downs for their National Championships. There is question whether or not an all-star team from the USA will be invited because typically the really good players play NCAA. There will be 6 teams from the GTHL, as there should be.

Truth of the matter, parity exists through out all the leagues.

The point about the 6 GTHL teams making the OHL cup annoys me; I have watched a lot of GTHL games and I agree there are a lot of good teams. I believe that by allowing this many teams in from one league reduces the credibility of this tournament as you should earn your position (i.e. at least make it to the semi's of your respective playoff's), not have it handed to you based on your reputation. Plus this year I saw some really good teams from other leagues that would deserve it more then the 5th and 6th place teams from the GTHL.

Just my opinion

You have a problem with 5th or 6th place GTHL teams making it to the OHL CUP? Ice Dogs are ranked #1 and are facing an elimination game against the 5th place team. Does that answer your question? Further, Brampton is playing .500 hockey for the past 8 games. People are confusing the fact that this is not a banner year for the GTHL, however they can compete on a depth level with any league in the world, let a lone Ontario for that matter.

I agree with what you are saying. You should earn a spot based on performance now not on what you did long before.

What you have to remember about this farce of a OHL Cup Showcase Tournament is that this is a GTHL OHL CUP Showcase Tournament and it is all about the GTHL. They don't want ANYBODY in it who can displace their beloved GTHL teams.

Scouts think that it is all a joke. Its not about getting TEAMS together to showcase their talents, its about getting INDIVIDUAL names together and showcasing THEM, not your team as a whole.

I'm not saying that the 5th and 6th place teams aren't good teams, all I am saying is that you should earn your place there. I am also not saying that the 5th and 6th place teams are the teams that finished in those positions in the regular season. I am saying that teams should earn there spot there, and the teams that loose in the first round should not earn a spot in the tournament.

The tournament should be a reward for a earning your spot (whether that be making the semi's or winning the league).

Where is the sense of achievement if everyone gets into the party?

Like I said just my opinion

I wrote the last list on how many teams from each area. The breakdown was from a reliable individual. I was not saying that the GTHL does not have good 5 or 6th place teams, but the GTHL is only drawing 4 places. So you can add the teams you think you want to see as long as it fits four spots.

Also, it is not a "GTHL OHL CUP" it is a cup representing the broad spectrum of deserving teams across the landscape.
When the actual list comes out, I am pretty sure I will be close.

My Opinion

You are missing the point. The #1 ranked team in North America (Ice Dogs) are facing elimination in their next game by a team that finished 5th in the GTHL. It took the last game of the year to decide 4th, 5th and 6th, all separated by only 2 points. GTHL should and will have 6 teams involved. That makes sense!

I think you are missing the point...

If the number 1 ranked team looses in the first round then they should not get a birth in the OHL cup. You should EARN your spot by winning at least a round.

Also, teams being separated by a point or two is not exclusive to the GTHL look at every league, you will be surprised at how close teams are.

And like I said it is my opinion, but I think 6 teams from one league would be too much as there would not be anything special in qualifying

You think the #1 team in North America gets upset in the first round and they should be watching the OHL CUP? Wow! Enough said.

yes I do .... But as this is not a true championship it won't happen

If the presidents cup champions get knocked out in the first round do you think the should be allowed to the finals anyway? you know because they were ranked no. 1

Last years Don Mills Flyers(90's) finished 6th in the GTHL,went on to win the GTHL title and then to the OHL CUP semi final losing only to the Waxers in a close game. The Waxers went on to win the Cup with Stamkos and DelZotto going 1-2 in the Draft. The waxers were coached by a top notch coach and a 6th place GTHL team gave them all they could handle. Goes to show that some Leagues are stronger then others.

yeah I agree, but Don Mills earned their spot in the OHL cup by winning the GTHL playoffs

so should grey bruce make it to the OHL cup
beat brampton twice and Niagara Falls

Some teams eventually knock off the top teams because the top teams have beaten the same teams so often that they just plain get bored. You beat a team every year for say the last 3 years and its hard to get up for the game.

i donno grey bruce out beat brampton twice and got ripped off a tie i think gb is the best team commin out of the scta for sure as long as they dont have to play st kitts or oakville ther are sitting pretty

When does the list come out????

No, it is a OHL CUP SHOWCASE by the GTHL. It is the GTHL. The GTHL has everything to do with it. Thats why the GTHL gets to decide everything.

My opinion but the truth, just ask around

The OHL cup has already started to set up the tournament. The rosters are being posted for some of the teams that have been invited. 9 down and 11 to go.

Marlies
Cambridge
Waterloo
Kingston
Rochester
Gloucester
Compuware
T.P.H. 91's
Thunder Bay

And no I have no clue as to who T.P.H 91's are

TPH is the Atlanta team that Uwe Krupp coaches. There are a couple of highly-touted prospects on the team making the trip.

Now Georgia is playing elite hockey - coming to an OHL Cup nearest you? Arkansas, Texas, Oklahoma etc.

Just think of how many NCAA scholarships are going to be available to Canadian players when the other 40 US states figure out how to develop players?

Scary indeed!

Great...that's a load. American teams coming up here who are not good enough to compete in their own Nationals but good enough to play in the OHL CUP?

Rochester sucks...there are a lot better teams in Ontario!

There's another American team confirmed on the OHL CUP website, I believe it's Compuware? Can someone confirm this?

What web site is this?

dont know the site but yes compuware is in the turny...so is ottawa valley i hear????

it is on the ohl site under ohl cup teams and roster listed

why do people just randomly throw teams into the mix by claiming there are listed teams on the ohl website. unless there's an unofficial one, the only thing that you'll find interesting on the ohl cup website right now are the top ten rankings

http://www.leaguestat.com/ohl_tournament/ohlcup/en/stats/roster.php?season_id=6

What has Compuware done that other Ontario teams (kids) haven't?

You can't compare the gthl 90's to the 91's. The gthl 90's were an exceptional group, just look how many made Team Ontario. Other than the top four a case could be made for any other teams in different leagues. Don Mills who finished 6th won the GTHL and went to the semi's losing to the Red Wings. The 5th place team Vaughan beat the Waxers twice in tournaments. This year there is going to be 4 or 5 teams that are snubbed who may be deserving. Get to the finals of your league then you don't have to worry, because wild cards are based on opinions.

the teams on that website earned ther spot through playoffs position but i think compuware is ther because the teams in the mwehl better than them are in state champs or nationals at the time something like that

Any idea as to when the invite list will be posted?
What is going on with the wild cards?
Wish they would let teams know if they are not invited for sure so they can go on with their lives!

just for the record nats beet tph thunder 5-1
it was preseason but still thats pretty decisive

"Wish they would let teams know if they are not invited for sure so they can go on with their lives!"

Go on with your life. If you haven't been invited, you aint being invited.

Nepean raiders beat kingston 3 of 4 times, beat LOndon, and Niagra falls, and York Simcoe, also they tied the #1 ranked team missasauga ice dogs

May i add? Raiders lost to Gloucester in the semis and Gloucester got swept in the finals.... and got taken to the last game in the first series against the 7th place team?

they only have one player worth looking at anyways

stop wasting ur time kid

Are you trying to say your an adult or something...you would of clearly of not uses "uy" as in "your" when you type a sentence and if you actually did your probabyl a fukkin janitor BTW your a joke and if Nepaen beat kingston 3 of 4 times and gloucester got swept what does that say hmmm... and all the games nepean lost were 1 goal games hahaha youur def not married and have no kids and you have nothing going for yourself or your a kid

You're a kid

gloucester got swept in the finals verse kingston and lost the last game 12-2... they should not be in the OHL Cup whats so ever- Ottawa Valley Titans took Kingston in the semis to the very final game and to overtime and are very deserving of a wild card-- it will be interesting to see the list tomorrow

BREAKING NEWS........ottawa valley titans not in! Get back on your tractors and start plowing your fields!!

theres alot of talk about the finals should have been kingston vs Valley but that would have been the case if valley would not have lost there final game of the season against gloucester 3-2 witch was winner takes third place.

Valley seems to think they deserved to be in the finals, instead of gloucester but as stated, if that were the case, they wouldn`t had got their @$$ kicked in the last game of the year deciding who get to avoid kingston, gloucestr just had nothing to play for as they were already going to the OHL cup hich is every boys dream

News!!!The North York rangers have just gotten the final wildcard, schedule should come out this weekend!

you're right NYR are #22 on the list...the only way thay can get in is if 2 teams cancel at the last minute.

when is the schedule coming out

SCTA teams seem to be very weak.
ETA is much stronger.

teams so far are
ice dogs
marlies
rebels
canadians
nats
cambridge
waterloo
london
windsor
rochester
compuware
thp-thunder
greater kingston
gloucester
thunderbay
brampton
OMHA 1,2,3
and one more tbd wildcard

thats just the way its gona be, now stop ur b*tching

It is brutal that Jr. Cds made it.

if niagra wins it will be barrie

The Ottawa Valley Titans should get the remaining wild card

17-12-4, won nothing, lost early in playoffs, showcasing O'Reilly. Plain and simple.

4th Place GTHL..... push Rebels to 7 game series,,, take marlies apart and go undefeated, destroy dogs with 8 goals, improve from 8th to 4th and have O"reily to showcase............ legitimate contenders at the OHL Cup

yup okay, whatever you say pal. if you guys win a single game in your division, we'll give you the OHL Cup.

yep yep,,,,, same to you bozo

Whitby, Central Ontario and Niagara Falls have been invited.

Gold- Silver and 4th place at the OMHA's

Apparently Barrie has not been invited. They got bronze?

Central Ontario and Niagara Falls got the invite yesterday.

final teams are

ice dogs
marlies
rebels
canadians
nats
cambridge
waterloo
london
windsor
rochester
compuware
thp-thunder
greater kingston
gloucester
thunderbay
brampton
whitby
central ontario
barrie
niagra falls

Does anyone know when the 'Official' list ON THE OHL WEBSITE, will be updated with the final list? Today or tomorrow? The schedule must be posted soon as well seeing the tournament starts on Wednesday!

How would NF get invited when they lost to Barrie twice. There only 2 wins in the OMHA where against Burlington, who was already out of it, and Central, who were already in the Gold Medal game. It should be interesting to see the final teams.

Politics.

barrie hasnt got a invite... will they get it? they did win bronze

Barrie won't get an invite because they have too many blowhards who con't stop posting crap about their team on this site. So the rest of us went to the tournament organizers and begged them not to invite Barrie to the tourney.

Niagara Falss got invited because there are half a dozen players that they want to see.

There aren't any kids on Barrie they want to see.

Thats why NF got the invite, the day before the bronzre medal game. Or ask your manager and coaching staff why you didn't get invited?

barrie is in cause they won bronze

Did the Falls get In? I heard they did NOT?

they shouldn't after losing to barrie 7-2

Niagara Falls got invited Saturday March 17th. Caoching staff announced it in the dressing room between the 2nd and the 3rd, Game vs. Central Ontario

Barrie HAS NOT been invited.

Hey, all you Barrie parents and coaching staff, did you get invited to the OHL Cup?

I heard the Jr.Canadiens or Burlington got in for one of the 5 wilcards or an american team that cannot come...

Junior Canadiens ARE IN.

Rumour has it Barrie is being snubbed, quite bizarre if true as the cup requirment for the OMHA is a Gold, Silver, Bronze gets an automatic in.

Hmmmm

If that happens then that is a black mark on their organization. They should be fighting now, and not waiting. But, apparently that is how they play, fair and good guys. What do they say about good guys? always finish last.
Again, the OHL CUP is not about TEAMS, it is about players they want to see.
Like it or not, that is how it works in the big TO.

barrie is in

17 TEAMS CONFIRMED, AS OF RIGHT NOW. ALL TEAMS AT THE OMHA WEEKEND ARE IN, EXCEPT BARRIE, GOOD JOB BARRIE!!!

There is 18 now, and Barrie isn't one of them

www.bestofbothworlds.ca

This is the OHL link

Niagara Falls, Central Ontario, Whitby

There are 19 now and Barrie IS one of them.

Confirmed 19 and Barrie is there/

stop the bs barrie gets in do to there bronze medal

Ice dogs are not on the list?

18 confirmed teams? there is not a list on the OHL website.

Ok here are teams

Barrie
Brampton
Burlington
Cambridge
Central
Gloucester
Greater Kinston
London
Miss. I ce dogs
Miss Rebels
Niagara Falls
Rochester
Thunder Bay Kings
Jr. Canadains
Marlies
Toronto Young Nats
THP Thunder
Waterloo
Whitby
Windsor

This is confirmed as our coach just sent me a schedule.

can you paste it