Can someone notify Rob and all the old timer scouts about the new game of hockey.

There is a new course out that will help them identify hockey players, instaed of listening to coach dad and manager has a kid on the team.

It is called " How to identify a hockey player 101"

Many hours spent on what the warning signs are when speaking to caoches and manager that show they are trying to fukk your kid over.

I guess your son didn't get drafted, and why would that be? Rob and the scouts look for players who can move up the playing ladder. So what if your son didn't get drafted this year, it's heart breaking for the young players but continue moving forward and work your craft in Midget. Everyone thinks that Midget is not very good and have to play Jr somewhere, and that is the wrong way to think.
Scouts still go out and watch Midget players, and will add them to the draft list or invite them to traing camp the following year.

Don't give up, and dad, don't take it out on Kitamura or the OHL Scouts.

Who says i was not drafted.

It is what it is.

Scouts who line their pockets and do favours should be ashamed of themselves.

Kitamura, well we all know about him. Shame on him too!

Just so you know, Rob Kitamura and the OHL Central Scouts didn't draft 1 player. It is the OHL teams that draft players. There are 20 teams with about 10 scouts per team. That would be 200 scouts. If your player didn't get seen he must be hiding under a rock.

yes rob says he sees about 2400 games a year.funny ive been in every arena around ontario for the last ten years.have yet to see him.its all about the money baby.as for scouts 200 pat quinns walking around remembering the broad street bullies.hey 6ft5that cant skate in minor midget is still 6ft5 who cant skate in the ohl.see manojlovic for the ohl icedogs for an example.are you kidding me lolololollol.

I've seen him twice.

You know what buddy. Just because a kid doesn't get drafted doesn't mean he isn't good enough.

Your team may have been a good one. Great honest coaching staff. There for the kids. All of them.

But reality is that there are many teams out there with coaches with personal agendas and personal motives. And beleive it or not there are kids that are screwed over by these coaches and managers to promote their own. The number one goal for some of these coaches is to get their son noticed and drafted at any cost, at any expense.

So its great that you belong to a team with morals and values. I cannot say the same for the Barrie team.

Scouts have been around long enough to see through all that BS. Who are you trying to kid? Face it any Barrie kid not drafted either doens't have the talent or personality, or his Dad is a real dickhead.

Rob and the scouts did a fine job!

no ther retards theres so many ****in kids that didnt even get a look on sum certain teams...........

Instead of worrying about the Scouts, learn to spell first.

Ya okay 208.

Like you would know. You know nothng about what went on in Barrie, YOu have no idea.

There was at least four more that should of been drafted.

Even Visca and Beauchamp and Nikkanen went late becasue of the bad press from McLaughlin and Wind. Just ask the scouts and agents.

Jake shouldn't of been in the mix. It was a favour.

But you go on beleiving what you want bud. Good luck next year

You Barrie people kill me. All year long we have to put up with the posts about how great your team is. Now that it is over, and you proved that you were a solid team, we have to read this crap.

Move on ... get a new tractor, buy yourself a few new pigs for the homestead... whatever... no one cares except you and the others wearing overalls.

Then don't come on to thie forum buddy.

They didn't prove squat. What they proved is that coaches can manipulate anything and everything.

The team under achieved. The deep was very deep, had lots of speed and talent. The caoching staff was unable or should I say REFUSED to do anything with it.

Just an outsiders perspective but Barrie pound for pound lacked raw individual talent, aside from Visca and Beauchesne who seemed to have lost a step or 2 this year. When everyone bought in, like at the start of the year, they were as good a TEAM as anyone. Then they got selfish and stopped playing like a team. Barrie should be happy that the kids who got drafted did. Could have, probably should have, been worse.

Absolutely. I think Barrie did stop playing as a team. They turned on McLaughlin, Parker and McKendry becasue of the showcasing that went on.

Visca,Beauchamp, Mullay, Shaw, Nikkanen, Duthie, Agostini, McGovern, Ezekiel,did take a step back. That what happens when your benched for the coaches sons.

Look at the Dogs, Marlies, Whitby etc...Teams that were the top teams in there zone or area if you will. Those teams drafted almost most of their team. But not Barrie. Barrie finishiing as it did, should of seem most or many more drafted. And HIGHER!!!!

Disagree there. Barrie has 2 truly elite players..period. Beauchamp and Visca.

What about Nepean? Ranked HM or #10 for most of the season finished second in ODMHA. Made it to quarterfinals in most tournaments in TO yet had only one kid drafted and 9th round at that. To put it in perspective, Kanata which is part of ODMHA and finished fourth had 4 players drafted, Sting which finished 6th had three players draft.

Nepean should of had more. Absolutely. So why didn't they?

Dig deep, and you shall find the answer.

Visca, no dobut is an amazing skater. That is it. Can't finish. One move. Won't hit. Peels off. Hardly elite.

Beauchamp, nice skating, will hit and grind it up. Same move, all the time. Predictable. Selfish player, but perhaps that is becasue McLaughlin pulled him off to put his own son on. Elite, too strong of a word.

I think Rob Kitamura and his group of scouts did a pretty good job. I think Rob was at every one of our teams home games this year. Obviously, he wasn't only watching our team but he was letting the teams come to him rather than travel all over the place to watch them. Sure there were some questionable players left off the draft list and some questionable ones put on it. However, that was Central Scoutings opinions and the OHL Teams had their five add-ons to make it right, if they found it necessary.

It would be a lot easier if the draft year was 17 years old because at 15, kids are nowhere near their peak. I think many of the so-called questionable players on the draft list were there because a scout sees potential in him to develop over the next couple of years. Whether he does or not is a total crap shoot. Only time will tell.

I think the draft should be done in Midget where 16 and 17 year olds compete. The boys are more mature and the real separation starts to show as the bigger, stronger and more skilled players start to really show their worth. I can't see how changing the draft to Midget would affect players decisions between the OHL and the NCAA routes. It would also let kids stay at home to finish high school.

141.119 the most sensible post of all.

Thanks for adding good ole common sense.

It is too bad the OHL doesn't listen to it.


Every one would be better off.

What is the main reason for this draft being at 15 Years old ??

the main reason is for the OHL to commit to the players before NCAA does!

Get used to it boys!!!! The OHL only looks out for the OHL. They'll do anything to keep ahead of the competition (NCAA) including f***ing you over....and over...and over. But ya know what? That's life in the big city.

How is the NCAA in competetion with the OHL....they play in different cities and even different countries.


The OHL is in competition with itself....the drafting of the right players is all important. The better they draft, the better the team will be..

So if the playing field is level for all OHL Teams, and NCAA cannot get them until 18 yrs old (first year college), then why can't the OHL wait till the players are say 17 yrs. old and then draft them when they have a better idea of their potential skill (instead of 15 where, as one writer said, it is a crap shoot as to their real potential).. The OHL teams would have a much better idea of their worth when they are older.

**** i hate beauchamp

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Why?

id just love to rip his face off

Wow!

He must of stung you man.

Interesting comment on Nepean Raiders but none of the players you mentioned are on that team. So dig deeper

I too was a little disappointed with Nepean's results in the 2007 draft with just one player taken in the ninth round. However, if you step back and look, there are a few reasons why individual players were passed over.

There is no doubt that they were a good team and were very well coached.
But in the case of this team, the whole was far more than the sum of its parts. They were a real "blood and guts" team that worked hard every night and it paid off in their tournament showings during the year. Unfortunately for this group, the OHL drafts players, not teams.