RAMS Richmond Hill Jr. A Hockey - Markham Waxers

From: D Barlow (d.barlow_omha@hotmail.com)
It has come my attention that The Markham Waxers Midget AAA are using a player that played 1 game in the GMHL this season.
#2 Jamie Perry. Here is a link to their web site. http:/ramshockey.com/inside.php?pid=4 .They forgot to take it off. but probably will very soon. I also included a copy by email.(see attachment) It is being investigated by Bill Needles of the OMHA and Doug Babcock dbabcock@omha.net .

The OHMA, OHF, and Hockey Canada are very serious about not allowing players to play in the GMHL and the OHMA in the same season.

If this is allowed, then it will set a precedent for all other teams to sign players presently playing in the GMHL. See link to OMHA to see rule below.

OMHA Rule

Any games in which a GMHL player participated could be forfeited to the opposing team.

I am presenly contacting other teams in the ETA about this problem. If you have any concerns or questions please contact your OMHA rep directly

Dan

Rams Statistics
(stats are updated weekly)

# PLAYER YEAR POS GP G A PTS PIM
16 Cody Smith 4 1 3 4 22
5 Mike White 5 0 2 2 10
17 Frank Spano 3 1 2 3 22
15 Andrew Wills 5 3 1 4 4
14 Eric McGrath 5 1 2 3 4
6 Kyle Adams 5 0 3 3 10
9 Torre Stenbock 5 1 0 1 2
19 Alex Derlis 5 2 2 4 0
25 Nick Trach 5 3 3 6 2
27 Mike Webster 5 0 5 5 6
36 Cody Irwin 5 1 2 3 2
61 Zach Himmel 4 2 2 4 0
68 Matt Morra 5 1 1 2 10
77 David Norwood 4 0 0 0 0
87 Sean Moffatt 4 0 4 4 0
37 Mark Asquith 5 2 1 3 2
89 Chris Minnema 2 1 2 3 4
20 Tyler Callen 4 3 3 6 8
21 Mike Cipollone 2 1 0 1 2
2 Jamie Perry 1 0 0 0 0
29 Allan Cousins 1 0 0 0 0
20 Mason Baptista 1 0 1 1 2


# GOALTENDERS YEAR GP MIN GA GAA SAVE% SO
30 George Grammenopoulos 3 180 9 3.00 0
66 David Martin 1 60 6 6.00 0
29 Allan Cousins

This is the first time the rule is being tested, if this one squeaks through it should open the door for players to play in both leagues

Everyone knows he played only one game and backed out, should a player be spanked for the rest of this year and next year just because he made a mistake to play one game in the GMHL. There is a lot of players who have made the same mistake and are trapped to stay in the GMHL, with the way the CAHA have set the rules. The GMHL should be excepted as a Jr. B league, not a Jr. A league, and have player affiliates with minor hockey and Jr A.
The real question is will the CAHA open the door or slam it shut!

I also included a copy by email.(see attachment) It is being investigated by Bill Needles of the OMHA and Doug Babcock dbabcock@omha.net .

The OHMA, OHF, and Hockey Canada are very serious about not allowing players to play in the GMHL and the OHMA in the same season.

If this is allowed, then it will set a precedent for all other teams to sign players presently playing in the GMHL. See link to OMHA to see rule below.

OMHA Rule

Any games in which a GMHL player participated could be forfeited to the opposing team.

I am presenly contacting other teams in the ETA about this problem. If you have any concerns or questions please contact your OMHA rep directly

Dan

Dan - get a life

side note ..................This is not the first time this has happened last year 2 players maybe 3 came back and played the last 3 mths in the Opjhl sorry I cannot remeber there names of the top of my head but they played over 10/15 games in the "outlaw league" and returned after the dealine last year

not sure why nothing was mentioned about this last year.

Dan,

You are a snivelling,phucking assshole,busy-body, dikkhead.

That about covers it.

D Barlow (d.barlow_omha@hotmail.com)
It has come my attention that The Markham Waxers Midget AAA are using a player that played 1 game in the GMHL this season.


You got nothing better to do ? If this is true a copy of the game sheet in question will solve it.
But since there has been no formal annoucement how do you explain that Mr. Barlow.

Rules are rules...it's a black and white situation.

D Barlow (d.barlow_omha@hotmail.com)
It has come my attention that The Markham Waxers Midget AAA are using a player that played 1 game in the GMHL this season.


You got nothing better to do ? If this is true a copy of the game sheet in question will solve it.
But since there has been no formal annoucement how do you explain that Mr. Barlow.

Only a clean game sheet will clear this player now
They should all be allowed to play before nov 15, 2007 if they leave, This would hurt the GMHL

WHY DO you pull November 15th out of your hat? why that date

Nov 15th is a date that most players should know if they are going play or sit on the bench. There is no reason to drag a player till xmas and cut them.

November 15th is the last day a player can be released by a GTHL club.

Subject: RE: Players in the GMJHL
> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:44:05 -0400
> From: Richard.Ropchan@omha.net
> To: g.vickers_colts@hotmail.com
> CC: pmckee@ohf.on.ca
>
> Gerry,
> Unless we can get a copy of the actual game sheet which is very unlikely, there isn't much more that we can do other that to ask the questions that were asked.
>
> Bill Neadles feels confident that this player did not play.
>
> Regards,
> Richard
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: G Vickers [g.vickers_colts@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Sat 10/13/2007 2:05 PM
> To: Ropchan, Richard
> Cc: pmckee@ohf.on.ca
> Subject: Players in the GMJHL
>
> Mr. Ropchan
>
> I just wish some clarification regarding your bulletin
>
> To: OMHA Centre Contacts
> Date: September 6, 2006
> From: Richard Ropchan, OMHA Executive Director
> Subject: Sanctions for Participation in the Greater Metro Junior ‘A’ Hockey League
>
> Jamie Perry of the Markham Waxers Midget AAA is reported to have played one game with the Richmond Hill Rams of the GMJHL on Sept 11 2007.
>
> The Markham coach got a letter from the Ram coach , Dan Jones, stating that Perry never played and that his name on the web site was a mistake. Bill Needles of the OMHA accepted this as proof that Perry did not play in the GMHL and cleared him to play on the Waxers.
>
> Ram Web Site <http://www.ramshockey.com/inside.php?pid=4>;; as of Oct. 13/07

> Just for clarification. Is all that is needed to clear a player is a letter from the coach saying that the he did not play for the team?
>
> As this was very much the case in the Perry situation.
>
> This is important for future situations which will arise in the near future.
>
> Thank You
> Gerry Vickers

This is not about blocking one player, but about helping other players who are trapped in the GMHL Jr League. This will will be known as the Perry rule! Thank You Jamie for being the first to get through! It is written!

It really is a sad state of affairs when you folks would rather execute your powers over the freedom of players and parents to choose where they'd like to play rather than simply concentrate your efforts on making your own program so strong and so accommodating that more people would be convinced that sanctioned hockey is the only place to be.

You continue to demonstrate your ineptitude in handling these affairs and this childish approach to protecting your territory, a territory you've had all to yourselves for ever. You don't even seem to comprehend that it's your own effort - or should I say lack thereof - to exert your control that pushes more and more people to our side of the fence!

The stories that continue to pour in day after day after day - about players being dragged along through the tryout process, sitting on the bench game after game, getting cut well into the season with no where decent left to play - well the proof is in the pudding - we virtually doubled in size!

Well, we continue to grow, continue to demonstrate our unique brand of commitment, development, exposure, etc., all the while, you wannabe hockey executives appear to everyone as nothing but a little boys club meeting in a tree house once a week to determine how you're going to bully the neighbourhood.

What a pathetic bunch you are!

PS Oh, we're probably growing to at least 18 teams next year, so if you could take your GMHL warning notice and keep it on the front page of all sanctioned hockey websites, we'd really appreciate it. You just can't buy advertising like that!

Thanks, Marshal Uretsky !

Actually, I meant to put my name on it, like I ALWAYS PUT MY NAME ON IT, unlike so many of you who aren't prepared to openly stand behind your words.

But just so there's no mistake.

Marshall Uretsky
President
Toronto Canada Moose Jr. A Hockey Club

PS 1 L as in Marshal denotes a rank or position, or didn't you know that? Regardless, still pathetic!

And just so the folks out there are clear, once again, about the misinformation you sanctioned guys are spewing - it IS NOT an additional suspension or an automatic 2 year or life ban if you play in our league. If a player comes without signing any sanctioned card, or signs a card but DOES get a release before coming over, you are only affected in this current season.

The number of people that attended various tryouts and informed us that they were being told 2 years or life was astronomical!!! Trust me folks, people with kids in the game ARE seeing the forest through the trees.

IF this had been a player hoping to for NCAA and the OHL states the kid never played was on a game sheet or even the website, the Clearinghouse would not take it at face value...good thing this was not the NCAA or he would be screwed.

I meant 1 (L) ! as in Marshal Dillon. You're the Sherrif