The Greater Metro Jr. A Hockey League is just concluding it's second successful season and just about to begin it's semi finals. We've grown from 7 teams in our first year, to 13 teams this season, and have plans to enter next season with at least 16 teams throughout Southern and Central Ontario and Quebec.

The Moose concluded our season recently, putting up a good fight against the first-place and defending Champion Bradford Rattlers, but were eliminated in the first round. Preparations are well-underway for 2008 - 2009.

For the first time in three seasons, we have a solid core of returning players including some of our top veterans, and look to be a contender next year. At this time, we are looking for 3 Defensemen and 6 Forwards for next season.

Our first tryouts of the spring are scheduled for Saturday, March 22, from 7-8pm at Thornhill CC, Bayview Ave. and John St. in Thornhill, our home arena. Eligible birth years for next season are 1993-1988.

Please use the first link to go directly to our website homepage - http://www.tcmoosehockey.com/index.php?pr=Home_Page - and the second link to go directly to the latest Tryout information - http://www.tcmoosehockey.com/index.php?pr=Tryouts.

Make certain you also check out the 'Our Program' link to get most of the information you'll need to determine whether you're prepared for the type of commitment our club requires.

The website contains several links with which to contact us.

Thank you.

Marshall Uretsky
President
Toronto Canada Moose Jr. A Hockey Club

I would like to ask you a simple question don't get me wrong and I'm not looking for a confrontation.The question is how did you come to the conclusion that your league is rated "Junior A" and not B or C.I've watched many OPJHL games and I don't rate that true "A" hockey.
Please explain.

Also not looking for a confrontation, but the quality of the games are not much different than Major Midget games, and you have to pay to be on the team. In all honesty I have seen Midget teams that could beat teams in your league.
So why would I spend the money to be part of your league? Hope you can answer an honest question.

Still waiting for an answer to the question.

here's your answer:
there is a reason this league is not sanctioned by the ohf or hockey canada. that's all you need to know.
go watch a game. that will be even more proof.
what credible 'jr a' league charges kids $7,000 to play in it!?
there...there's three answers for you.

Fukk me.
Check out the fukking club rosters in this league...a fukking compilation of Midget A, AA, and Junior-Fukking-Z nobodys. God-damn!
Asking for answers is a senseless, brainless, waste-of-fukking-time.
Fukk 'em.


THe Angry Man

All I asked was how they came to the conclusion they called themselves Junior "A" caliber

Dikk-head.
How in god's name can anyone answer your fukking question?
They've never put or associated the word "caliber" after/with their profile and/or name - You fukking did.
I've you wanna be a fukking smart-ass....the first step is being fukking smart.

The Angry Man

Your living proof that you came out of your mother's ***.You piece of ****!Oh by the way I heard you take in the ***

I heard that too

"Your living proof that you came out of your mother's ***.You piece of ****!Oh by the way I heard you take in the ***..."


What to fukk does that mean? Came out my mother's asss? Piece of Shiit? Take it in the asss? Was that meant to be some kind of hard-hitting, stop-the-presses, put an end to my pestering, insult?
Is that your best shot, tough guy?
Give it another go, sport. Let's see what you're made of. You've had a ton of practice
on the fukking loading dock...so, let's have it. Take me down a notch or two.
Maybe you can collaborate with Mr."I heard that too".
Another fukking genius who just crawled out of the primordial soup.

The Angry Man

Kids!

Its a big sand box play nice.

As for this so called Junior(Z) Loop.

Bingo! we have a winner..........................

28 players on this roster at how much a player? $$$$$$ Not bad!

Somebody mentioned $7000. 28 players per team. 13 teams. Let's see...carry the 6 etc. etc.: $2,548,000

Anybody else wish they'd thought of this first? Just find 364 daddies who want to be able to say "Junior plays junior" Who said anything about good hockey?

good hockey?? who cares!

Its a great option for players. First year in operation, the GMHL placed 13 players to NCAA commitments. This year the number is estimated to be between 25-30. How many commitments have been given to 2nd year Midget players? The league doesn't hide what it is...a development Jr. league. It provides opportunities to play with guaranteed playing times, no cut policies, and with some teams, not trade policies. That is what the league was founded upon.

My son played this past season (not with the Moose). As a 16 year old, OPJHL opporunties were limited even for a OHL draft pick who chose not to play in the "O". Contrary to comments, we paid $3,000 for the season, plus bought family season home game passes for $105.00 (for a family of 5). That was the entire cost and we received 42 regular season games, had 4 practices per week, a annual membership and personal trainer at a fitness centre, school tutors were included (we used them extensively), travelled by luxury coach to all away games, weekend overnight trips were covered (hotel & meals), played a full 60 minutes with floods after each period plus received 20 minutes of warm-up (we didn't have to rush on or off for a bunch of 8 year olds), had their own team dressing room at a "set" rink, respectfully played the National Anthem each game, averaged 350 fans per game, toured throughout the USA for showcase tournaments, played against a Russian select team, we had 2 americans and 2 swedes on the team, 10 players in total were billeted, pants, gloves, cage, socks, game jearseys, leather team jackets and two sticks were included...so was it worth, you are fukking right it was. My son was treated with respect and dignity, matured beyond his years and experienced the best year in hockey. For us the GMHL league performed as it was intented.

OK Then,

This all sounds great, and we can agree it is not Junior A, but more like a Prep School setup?

what team? i find it hard to believe they averaged 350 fans per game....

The team was in the north and teams located in smaller towns away from the larger centres all had great attendance. The Quebec based team probably had an average attendance that was 2 - 3 times ours.

Caliber wise, this is Jr. level hockey. From listening to NCAA scouts, hockey people "in the know", etc. they rate this league as being tucked in between Jr. C and OPJHL Jr. A and I would agree. Look at any NCAA recruiting site and on their drop down menus, GMHL teams are already listed. The top GMHL teams would be competitive with any OPJHL team and the bottom would compete with any Jr. C team. A lot of players are in the GMHL by choice and leave the BS and just enjoy playing in a better environment.

Again I am only speaking from my own personal experience and given the choice, if I had to pay to play anyway, this was the right choice for my son and our family.

Its good to have more places to play,its just a bit of an insult to call it Jr A.

It is just as much of an insult to call some of the OPJHL teams Jr. A as well.

hearing all the commments and I hope the organizers of this league read these threads, I think if they called it a Junior Development League, prospect league what ever, sounds better than Junior A. I think that its great that you offer a paying alterative to Midget programs that allow players the freedom to play without boundries and allow players that are not or have difficulty being able to make AAA teams a venue to play and develop their skills and hopfully follow their dreams in hockey.

BUT PLEASE STOP CALLING IT JUNIOR A. As it only devalues what I am reading on this thread......

Do yourselves a favour. Playoff hockey is going on right now. Go catch a OPJHL, Jr. C, GMHL and Midget playoff game. An "investment" of about $80 bucks between passes and gas. Then decide what level the hockey is at each league. You may be pleasantly surprised. On our team, all our players played AAA in their Minor Midget year.

It's should be rated Junior "C" I got an idea why don't you have an exibition game against Alliston or Penetang of the "C" loop.We'll see who would win.

What team has all AAA players on it?

That this fellow comes on here and harps about his outlaw team looking for player's.Do you see any other one coming on here and soliciting for player's.

MY son has played in the gthl "AAA" and played his first year in the gmhl JR"A" or JR"Z" does not matter, the game is by far better then midget "AAA".as for the MOOSE at $7000K WOW!!! I"II say put.

Interesting exchange going on here. Let me take a moment to point out a couple of things.

First of all, when you have the entire sanctioned hockey community discriminating against one particular organization, you have to do things a little differently, and that's why I come on here and let people know we're out there to consider as an alternative to sanctioned junior organizations that openly claim winning comes first before development.

Second, our registration fee is $6,200. for new players this year. 6 hours plus practice time each week, 42 games plus playoffs with full 20 minute warm-ups, coach buses for all out of town games, etc., etc. Compare against any gthl AAA program where the fee is generally $5K and up, not to mention the Jr. Canadiens at $7,200!!! And that 'ain't' for a dressing room, buses, and doesn't even included additional practices, tournament costs, etc. Oh, and players still have to pay to get into their own games! lol Sanctioned jr doesn't cost money, but hey, if you're a younger player and you don't mind a year or two with limited ice time, or taking stats in the stands most games, be my guest. I'm in the business of hockey because I love it, I love helping kids, and I don't see anything wrong with making my living out of it. Any problem with capitalism? Just because it's 'outside the box' of your typical sanctioned programs, so be it! I've mentioned before - wanna train to be a tennis player, golfer, ballet dancer, gymnast, figure skater, etc. - $15K a year my friends, conservatively!!!

Third, you want realism?! How 'bout this? Tell the provincial league to change their title to the Ontario Provincial Junior Hockey League and place their teams in divisions according to their calibre. You'd end up with 12 in the Jr. 'A' division, maybe 16 in the Jr. 'B' division, and the rest in the Jr. 'C' division. Then we can talk about changing our name, maybe calling ourselves Greater Metro Jr. A Development Hockey League. Fact is, our system, our commitment to training, our commitment to providing the ice time to all our players including our younger players, in second to none - it's 'A' level!

Fourth, for all you Midget promoters, I'm not sure what league you're watching, but I had the opportunity to scout the Titan's Midget AAA tourney in December. No disrespect to the kids that are still battling away in the game and trying to get somewhere, but there was not a single team in the whole tournament with more than 4 or 5 AAA calibre kids in their lineup! Even the M. Midget Marlie tournament was far from impressive apart from a handful of clubs.

Lastly, all of you folks who choose to blindly detract from our league or our teams are certainly entitled to your opinions. We're not that concerned! Despite your best efforts, our program has succeeded and earned the respect of real hockey insiders at the highest levels of the game who have been aware of our company for many years, and continue to scout our league, including NCAA, Major Junior, and the NHL. There the people that matter!

Wanna form a informed opinion, or you just wanna come on here and blindly criticize? Get off your butt and check out a game this weekend!

Semi-Final #1: Elliot Lake (#5) @ Bradford (#1): Game 4 - Sunday, March 23, 7:30pm, Bob Fallis Arena, Sideroad 10, just North off Hwy 88, a couple of miles East of the 400.

Semi-Finals #2: Temiscaming Royals (#2) @ Innisfil Lakers (#3): Game 3 - Friday night, 7:30pm; Game 4 - 1:30pm; both games at the brand new Innisfil Community Centre, on the East side of Yonge Street, just south of Innisfil Beach Road.

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Oh and the reason I came back on in the first place. A reminder, tomorrow night, 7-8pm, Thornhill CC, Bayview and John St., Have room for more F and D, but I have all my goalies for the skate.

Cost is $20, and we run some good training and skills work before finishing with a short scrimmage.

You make some good points.

However - I would put any of the top 5 midget AAA teams against any of your teams and you would find out that you are .... (Drum roll please).

FULL OF *&%$!!!!!!!!

After watching hundreds upon hundreds of Midget games over a number of years I'm afraid I agree with the GMHL guy. With the introduction of the CDM the 2005-06 season was okay, kind of a continuation of previous years. Then for the 2006-07 season I thought, wow maybe the CDM was working. I was very impressed with the calibre of the Midget league for that season. So with some faith in the CDM I thought it should be even better this year. Wow, what the hell happened, it was like watching a "AA" league. If it wasn't for the familiar jerseys I would have thought I was in the wrong rink.

Okay, 5:30, whatever you say.

Fact of the matter, as an example, our best team, Bradford, would compete quite well amongst Provincial's top clubs. Once again, an NHL opinion, not just ours. So you really wanna bring a Midget team up against them? Bring your top Midget club! They wouldn't stay within 15 goals of the Rattlers, my friend, FIFTEEN!

We have some kids in our league who wouldn't make Provincial, and we're quite open about things like that. However, isn't it funny how so many are so unaware of what our training accomplishes, and just sit there and criticize. I have a D from Midget A who is now a legitimate junior calibre defensman! A kid last year that got booted around the OP for 3 or 4 years was a top 3 scorer on his NCAA Div III team last season - as a freshman!

Like I said, your opinion, as uninformed as it is, doesn't matter in the least. The real hockey insiders at the Major Junior, NCAA, and NHL level are the ones we care about, and I hate to tell you this, but they're all over our league.

Thanks for playing!

Look at the rosters,full of kids that could not make their AAA teams! Please no more BS

Marshall let these sleeping dogs lie don't waste your energy. They don't want to see options that are available. It's unfortunate but it is their sons that will suffer for their fathers closed mindedness.

Thanks and you're right. Keep in mind I enjoy these little arguments! lol

I'm laughing as I type, especially considering that most of these detractors must have steam coming out of their ears in anger and frustration! lol Most don't have the guts to put their name on what they say, and yet I've never hidden who I am.

However, on the flip side, these forums have been invaluable to increase awareness of our league for over 2 years now, and I've been the one to lead the charge in that regard.

For as many of the naysayers there still are, most have been thoroughly silenced by our success to this point, and there are many folks who take the time to ask legitimate questions about the finer points of our league and team and I do my best to answer them.

Thanks for the support.

I JUST LIKE TO SAY THE KIDS WHO PLAYED AAA IN THE GTHL ARE PRETTY DAME GOOD KIDS THAT ARE PLAYING IN THE GMHL AS FOR THE BS. STAY IN THE GTHL BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH OF IT THAT THEY WOULDN'T KNOW WHERE TO PUT IT.
THANK YOU

haaha, u think the rattlers could beat a provincial team? who are u kidding u dumb ****k, innisfil is in 3rd and they are garbo!! a good AA team could beat them aha u guys in this GMHL leauge are such jokes! ur all parents who have paid there kids way all through minor hockey and have now put them in a **** leauge called "jr A" so u can go around telling all ur work buddys that ur son plays jr A. And dont give me that development league bull**** cuz u no im right

BUDDY, WHEN YOU KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT HOCKEY, LET ME KNOW OTHERWISE TURN ON THE TV PUT YOUR FEET UP AND WATCH THE FLINTSTONE'S.

bud, why r u getting so upset? oooo u must be one of those parents!!

I would just like to post my two..or four cents worth.

I am neither for nor against the GMHL..it is what it is.

This is the problem as I see it.....

The OPJHL is just to damn big! When I played in the old Metro Junior League, we had 12 teams and I would put those up against anyone and anytime..and that includes the last place Muskoka Bears..maybe!!!

If the Mission Statement of the GMHL is one of "development" than increasing the number of teams each year will not serve that purpose. What you are doing in effect, is supplying to the demand which might not be the best case scenario. Expand if the talent level is there and not just for the purpose of expanding. That will only play into the hands of people who come on here and say negatives about the league.

In saying that, I have seen many Tier II games this season and have trouble seeing how any teams in the GMHL could compete with these teams...and that includes the bottom tier. It would be interesting to see the bottom 12 of the OPJHL and how they did with placing players to the next level. A post secondary education is great but to little known colleges who play in the ACHA while a first good step, shouldn't give you instant credibility.