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NEED HELP WITH EXPRESS!!!

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My 81 express will go down the road wide open but when you let off the throttle to turn and then get back on it...it bogs down and usually quits. I cant figure this out...I dont know if it is a coil getting too hot, or a carb problem....anyone have any help for me?...I would definitely appreciate it. Thanks!

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Re: NEED HELP WITH EXPRESS!!!

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I would guess you need to lean out the idle mixture a little. My express did something much like that and it took me forever to figure out.
Whats happening is as you let up on the throttle, more gas then there should be is getting dumped into the engine. And while it still runs, as soon as you expect it to pull its on weight it dies.
See my little write-up if you need more information.
http://www.network54.com/Forum/message?forumid=26489&messageid=1081634216
Hope this helps!

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Hey Zippy ! Rat Fink Party in 3 weeks: june 12th by (Login themopedwhiz) Moped Gurus

Cinco De Finko

the 5th annual RF party

here's the web link

http://www.ratfink.org/rfparty2k4/

remember PIN-UP GIRLS

and this year they have a classfor custom minibikes

to be held at the elks club in canoga park


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Thanks for the Heads Up Whiz

by Zippy (no login)

Yep I remember I gave you heck last year for you getting to see all those pretty gals and I didn't even know about the event. So this year I know, if I can't make it I'll try to send my younger brother, he lives in the Simi valley now, he is just over the hill from you. I'll have him you look you up. His name is John.

Have fun and you behave yourself

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I look forward to meeting him by (Login themopedwhiz) Moped Gurus

I'll make sure i get my new phone number too you

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Damn Spree Mod

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Ok first i was lucky enough to find answer here to mod my spree so a year have past i finally decided to do the mod on my pulley well it didnt goes as easily as i taught it would first let me tell you this some people did it but seriously its impossible to put the old belt when you mill off the washer on the inner pulley i mill it all off (grinding wheel) well all the grey part the 1/8 inch lip ,, then i bought a new belt 1 inch longer dammit it was too long it would had slip im sure and it was rubbing on the side at the rear where the clutch is then i bought another one mdrrr too short dammit then again another one too short what i bought is a Dayco Top Cog first one was 15260 then 15250 then again 15255 i was sure it would had fit.. when i say its too short i mean i cannot put together the front pulley cuz the belt doesnt stretch what did i do wrong did i remove too much on the inner pulley i dont think so loll guess to fit it i will buy some other washer to put it between the pulley hope this work when people say buy one 1 inch longer guess they have mill of the inner pulley a lot its like removing it all loll my head is gonna explode after all this but if i put back some washer between the 2 i will have done all this for nothing what will i gain and also the belt i bought it doesnt have teeth on it cuz my honda dealer and all the place have been too dont have that kind of belt a 26 inch with teeth it doesnt exist like the one i got (25 inch) so please people who have done this mod give me some advice on how you done it and how much speed did you get from all this ???? im curious

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Re: Damn Spree Mod by (Login themopedwhiz) Moped Gurus

Here is some info to help you figure it out

goto an auto parts store not your Honda dealer

even better goto a dealer that services industrial equipment, like drill press, mills, or garden and construction equipment

all this stuff uses 'V' belts and they have bigger selections

the actual working length of the belt you buy is directly related to how wide the belt is

a new belt one inch longer that is the SAME with as the original belt is supposed to be

if you buy 2 belts 1 inch longer than the old belt

and 1 is thinner and one is thicker, the thin one will be too long and the thick one will be too short because the thickness determines where the belts will ride in the pulleys

take your old belt to the parts shop and ask them to measure it on there belt checker also have then check the thickness
they can look in the catalog to find belts the right thickness if the belt is one inch longer but a hair thicker use a thinner washer..

if it's one longer and a hair thinner use a slightly thicker washer..

by the way the best thing is to put he belt all the way down in the clutch at the rear wheel then put the front pulley togethere with the belt inside.. don't try to stretch the belt over the front pulley

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Elite 50, is it a moped in CA or what?

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In California, should I try to register my 1989 Elite 50 as a motorized bike or what? It's only 49cc technically. Will I have to argue with them?

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technically in Cailf your scooter is a 'motorbike' by (Login themopedwhiz) Moped Gurus

calif doesn't seperate scooters and motorcyles

those NOT freeway legal are 'motorbikes' unless it is a moped with pedals

anything with an engine big enough for the freeway gets motorcycle tags

some people have sucessfuly regestried older express models as mopeds

but my guess is that the DMV has too many elite's on their computer system as full motorbikes to let you get away with a moped tag

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Posted on May 26, 2004, 10:09 PM
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Elite50

by Zippy (no login)

If you go this site and download form REG 230 and can answer YES to the four questions the DMV asks on the form, then you have a moped, if not you have a scooter(motorcycle).

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/forms/reg/reg230.htm



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zippy your right about the form by (Login themopedwhiz) Moped Gurus

but WE know the elite doesn't have pedals and the HP is too large

And I think the DMV will catch it if he tries to say otherwise

the elite was just too popular a scooter


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I agree with you

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A Noped is one thing but if he gets pulled over, everyone knows what a scooter looks like so he couldn't cop a plea and say "Gee, I thought it was a moped" Busted!

Best to do the right thing, a lot cheaper in the long run.

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85 Spree Q's

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Im a dirtbike guy and just decided to bring out this 85 Spree and get it running again, well its running but I have a few questions...
1. Do the stock throttle cable's have a split? meaning 1 for the carb and 1 for the injector(my Spree is missing the throttle cable so I rigged 1 for now)

2. Is there any way to adjust the injector...mines runnin' to fat on the top-end, its smoking pretty good and I've already fowled a plug

3. Is there any other method other than running the stock fuel valve/pump? I have a pet-cock that works...just dont seem to like it w/ the stock needle and seat w/ gravity feed

I also notice it seems to idle kinda roughly, if I lean it over just a little...it will idle a tad higher and really seems to smooth out and sounds better(I think I getting too much gas), and it's a fixed float

I thank the Spree Gods for any info



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hp

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can anyone tell me what horsepower a 79' nc50 produces, and at what rpm?
thanks

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Honda didn't put that in the service manual by (Login themopedwhiz) Moped Gurus

maybe, they put it in the owner / operators book

but i don't have one, I used too but it vanished with some other stuff.

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Is there any way i can swap gas tanks ?

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I have a 1980 Honda express ... the gas tank is so rusted that even Kreeming it didnt help. Is there a way to use another kind of gas tank or does someone know where i can buy another one ?

Thanks

Andy

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tank -

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got a tank, already cleaned out and Kreemed, the tank had a hole in the baffle between the gas and oil which I tried to fix and don't know if I was sucessful as I never tested it (I pre-mix my gas) let me know if you're interested

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Re: tank -

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I am interested in purchasing your H-Express Gas Tank. How much do you want for it? Also, please explain about the repair?

Thanks,

Luis Salazar
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Express SR

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Does anyone have an idea of how fast a stock NX50 Express SR is supposed to be? Does 26mph sound right?

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25 mph is the legal speed for an Iowa model by (Login themopedwhiz) Moped Gurus

almost everyplace else is 30 mph legal top speed

honda listed the top speed of every non-Iowa express as 32 mph with a max load of 180 lbs



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Re: 25 mph is the legal speed for an Iowa model

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That is what I wanted to hear. I don't think this puppy was an Iowa model, so it should do 32 mph and it is a long way from that according to the speedo. It may be that the speedo is not accurate also, but I doubt it could be off that much.

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Re: 25 mph is the legal speed for an Iowa model

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mine seems to get up to 26 as well. ive gutted my muffler too. anything else to make it faster?

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NX50M

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The belt should be at least 14mm in width. If it wears to 13 mm the performance is falling off on the high end. My belt is 12 mm and it appears that at least 3 mph is lost for each mm in initial wear. Honda seems to not want to supply replacement drive belts any longer, which they can legally not do. My opinion of Honda has fallen several notches, however. I have heard that Malossi or Polini have a "high preformance" replacement, however, as yet no one can say for certain if they do or do not. One would think that if Honda cared, the one part they WOULD continue to supply is the drive belt. The suggestion about going through "lawn and garden" and looking for a similar belt is not too practical. First, the belt would have to be the same width and same degree of taper. Secondly, it would have to be EXACTLY the same diameter. Third, it would have to be kevlar or similar high performance which many "lawn and garden" belts are not because of cost. While there is a slim chance of locating some similar replacement, it could take a LONG time to locate.

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Another Problem..........

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I got the last problem fixed, and i tip my hat to you guys, your awsome. I just have another problem now. The last time, i hooked thge battery up, replaced all the hoses, (for like air and vaccumm and stuff)and that seemed to fix it (with my dad to my side). Now it has an ideling problem, and my lgihts wont work. I had a oil light short, and the light was always on, but i learned to ignore it. No turn signals, no brake lgihts, no idiot box lights (they say Oil; turn; Highbeam)
Any new ideas?
Thansk guys.
Bill

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Wiring diagram

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Can anyone give me a wiring diagram for a 1977 Honda Express? PLEASE!!

And guys..if I've overlooked this issue mentioned in earlier threads I'm sorry. There are so many and I just quickly browsed thru them. But in any case thanks in advance for your help!! This forum was highly recommended to me.

Thanks again!

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here are links to the wiring diagram and more by (Login themopedwhiz) Moped Gurus

http://mopedwizard.www1.50megs.com/expcharging.html

http://mopedwizard.www1.50megs.com/expresswiring.html

http://mopedwizard.www1.50megs.com/fault-finding-chart-gif.zip





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Wiring

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Thanks a lot for your help, this is exactly what I was looking for!

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Congratulations DON by (Login themopedwhiz) Moped Gurus

wish i had been there with you
to bad no other peder's joined you


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Thanks,Whiz! It was great anyway!

by (Login don-ohio)
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Yeah.....it's always nice to have fellow riders. But most mopeders aren't into long trips, so I kinda' understand.
Anyway, maybe next year I can do the whole lake in 2 days? I might try it.I dunno yet.
Wish you could have been there too,Whiz. I didn't try to break any speed records.......I just explored many streets and the beaches and had a good time in those 24 hrs. of riding. don-ohio (:^)


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Untitled

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I had to take a break from this problem to do some work around the house. I got back into it and I think I understand the problem. I bought an accurate tester and it appears that in fact I am not getting a charge from my magneto. I took off the flywheel cover. As I understand it there are two pickups on the magneto, one for the ignition and one for the charging system??? The one that is a red coiled wire appears to be fried and has that smell. Is this the source of my lack of power for my lights and horn? I thought that with a good battery and the key turned on that at least my horn would work??? What part is it I need and would a honda dealer be able to get it for me?

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1982 Urban express deluxe NU50M power problem

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Sorry, forgot to title my message.

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RED ? not according to my memory by (Login themopedwhiz) Moped Gurus

white goes from the magento charge winding to the rectifier, red goes from the rectifer to the battery, the horn button gets power from the key switch which connects this red with a black and a brown

yellow goest from the mag lighting winding to the light switch for the headlight

a black/red-stripe goes from another coil winding to power the cdi, it passes thru a jumper at the battery connector then connects to the cdi

a blue wire with stripe goes from the cdi-sense coil ( igniton fire signal ) to the cdi to make spark the plug.

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NU50M electrical problem

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When I say red wire I mean the wire that is wrapped up in a coil. I'm not sure what it is called, but the red coil is kind of crispy looking and smells burnt. Is this the cause of no power to lights? I still don't understand why my horn would not work with the switch on and a good battery. What is the red coil called and can a honda dealer get it for me? Thanks.

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can you send me a picture by (Login themopedwhiz) Moped Gurus

it sounds like your talking about one of the main winding coils, possibly the charge circuit coil.

the red must be the color of the varnish-enamel on the wire.

if it got fried, the circuit was shorted out somewhere in the harness connections, diode ? wires backward at batterry, or shorted at the headlight? or somewhere..

i need to see it , too be sure.

and you tell which wire it is hooked too going out of the motor case

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It is the charging mag that is fried

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No picture, but read your previous post and sorted out the wires. The charging mag is fried. Also, since all three wires(black/red, yellow, and white) pass under the charging mag, they are fused together. Do the two mags come as an assembly or are they replaced individually? If not then I have some monkeying around to do. I hate soldering. Is this still available from honda?

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Best look for someone parting out a NU50 or NX50 by (Login themopedwhiz) Moped Gurus

and buy the assembly from them
maybe 'thescooterguys' have it
they make posts on this board

if honda has it, it will be a complete assembly

for this to be fried, means that at sometime there was an overload on the charging circuit.

shorted wire or diode

shorted battery or connections

or somebody ran a 6volt battery on there which is bad news in a 12volt cicuit


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No soldering required

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You don't really need to solder the connections. Just buy some of those caps from radio shack that you can crimp to hold 2 twisted wires together. Good luck.

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electric start

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...you have to squeeze the brake levers when you push the start button or the electric start relay won't pull in

I didn't know you had to do this to use the electric start button. Should the horn work with a battery when it is not started? It appears that I am getting no service from my battery, or do I have to have it started before items such as lights and horn work?

Thanks

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is the fuse good ? is every thing connected by (Login themopedwhiz) Moped Gurus

there are a lot of connections in the headlight housing , the wires are all pushed behind or under the headlight

the horn , the tail light, the turn signals should all work when the key is on,

the headlight only works when the engine is running, it has it's own winding from the magneto.

if the oil light is on, the battery circuit is connected at least as far as the key switch and your problems are in the connections that are supposed to be on/hot when the key is on..

these are all in the headlight housing
all the switch wires and turn signal wires meet there


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Update

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Thanks for the additional information on wiring THW.

I previously only tested the horn when I replaced the battery the other day, not the turn signals or brake light.

Since then, I tested these items and they work fine, I may have a bad horn or horn connection.

However, I dismanteled the start button from the hand grip area and used a ground, (the loose start buton) to create a connection. I was then able to start the NU50!

It appears that I may have a poor contact with the starter button position. I may need to clan the contacts or adjust the spring.

Thaks again. ANd it is not great to have "almost" push button stating power.

Mike

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Ran the Lake Erie Southern Coast Sat. and Sun.!

by (Login don-ohio)
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Boy! I had a lot of good ridin'fun!
Feeling really apprehensive about my untested Sebring with the 70cc kit that I had just dremeled the squish band into, I took off after the rain subsided on Sat. evening. I decided since I felt really good and up to it, that I would put a true test of road-worthiness on the newer Sebring.
I rode all that evening and thru the night, stopping to look at parks and the lake, and of course, getting lost a few times.LOL!
I rode all next day, really seeing some beauty along the coast, and enjoying the way that MO2 Franco-Morini(ITALIAN Stallion) ran like the proverbial `scalded dog' ALL THE WAY !!
Tired but Happy, I returned to the campsite on Sunday evening
after a 24 hr. exploration of Lake Erie's southern coast, from Ruggles
(my last name)Beach to Erie,Pa.
The total trip was 417 miles on my Motobecane Sebring moped, and
it ran flawlessly.
I was impressed with the beauty of the beaches and the lake and
all the nice houses with beautiful flower gardens and stuff. Explored many a side road down to the lake.
Maybe next year I can do the North Canadian coast as well?
I'm on nightshift now, and they're messing with my pC at work, so replies may be sparse.
don-ohio (:^D
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need a starter-dealer can not get

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I have a 1988 SB50P Honda Elite with a shorted starter armature.I really would like to find a complete good starter,or the armature.If you have item/s to sell,please send price and any other info.Thank you Tom Kelley

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Starter for Honda SB50p

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Try www.partsfish.com or your local Honda MC dealer

http://www.powersportspro.com/partsfish/v2/displayfiche.asp



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piston

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i am going to replace the piston on my 86 spree and it has about 3,000 miles on, i chipped it while replacing the rings so i am getting a new one will there be any problems with using the old cylinder with a new piston??

Thank you

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No, but check some things

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Check the wall isn't scored and I'd put new rings in with it unless you have less than a under 100 miles on the old ones. Lightly honing the cylinder might be a good idea too.
RobD

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Re: No, but check some things

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how do i lightly hone the cylinder?


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piston

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no there will be no probem have your cylinder hone out frist

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piston

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you should probably horn the cylinder,and I did this with a horning tool that I bought at a parts store for 12 dollars. wish you luck!



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Gah!! Seized again

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I got my new metrakit in my 87 honda elite. I'm running premix at 50:1, according to recommendations of VTcycles. I had done 2 10 minute very easy rides without problems. Today I tried to go to the store to get some grease for my brake cables, and the damn thing seizes after a little over 10 minutes. I had not gone anymore than half-throttle, and 25 mph just about the whole time.

This is the exact same thing that happened with my previous metrakit. It seized on the first 'real' trip. The last kit never seized after that. But I'm so upset that I was being so careful in running premix and everything, and here it's seized up on me.

The only thing I can think that might vary from VTcycle's recommendations is my oil. It's "Maxima SuperM injector Hi-performance 2 cycle oil... Synthetic Formula... Smokeless formula... injector or premix."

For this first tank of gas, I've got 7 3/4 cups gas and about half-way between 1/4 and 1/8 cups of this oil. I measured the gas using a conservative number, and was sure to use more than the minimum of oil. So I figure my ratio must be a little more than 50:1.

Since what VTcycles told me to do resulted in a seize, I'm asking you guys for a second opinion. I know mopedwhiz said 25:1... but I went with VTcycles recommendation so that when they ask if I followed their directions, I can say yes. Now I'm somewhat pissed at them. I will be calling them today when the time in Hawaii is a little later.

Help please,
Nate

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i run

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i run 25:1 and i only have a biturbo
thats not a very rich mix....
but something else might be wrong too
~jesse

Posted on May 17, 2004, 1:35 PM
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A list of things that could be wrong:

by (Login natespaint)
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This is what I think could be wrong in order of my suspicions:
1. pre-mix ratio too low
2. carb not adjusted correctly... however it runs just fine
3. spark plug too hot? I'm running a NGK 6, stock is 4
4. wrong type of oil

I'm going to start with 1.

-Nate



    

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Posted on May 17, 2004, 1:56 PM
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OIL...OIL...OIL... by (Login themopedwhiz) Moped Gurus

i have said it before..
if you have too much oil,IT WILL SHOW UP
but you can't seize an engine because of too much oil, clog an exhaust maybe, excess smoke yeah..BUT those are cheap easy fixes

honda says 25:1 and they mean it..

I guess you didn't understand my post

ABOUT oil DISPERSION and engine temps

when i'm breaking in a new bore or piston i use 20:1 ,RICH is always SAFER

the metrakit for the express was designed for the PA50 which is a premix only no injection and less bodywork to obstruct the airflow to the engine..
50cc.nl told me to never go less than 40:1 with their euro-kit on that same moped which has better cooling than the express

I have never been unhappy using 25:1
which is the honda spec for that engine

your metrakit fits the elite engine but it was designed for a different but similar euro honda running in a cooler climate..with a different carb

use the 25:1 and be happy that the scoot will give you good service..

I use havoline 2 stroke injector oil, $2 a quart
i have used it for years and have been very satisfied.
you don't need to buy $6 quart oil and try to make it last twice as long

like i said different oils for different temps and engine speeds

if 25:1 ( 5 oz per gallon )leaves your exhaust full of oil then try 30:1

right now i would go with 20:1 for a least 300 miles that is 6.4 oz of oil to 1 gallon of gas

either round it to 6 / 6.5 or 7 which ever is the easist.. i think you will be happy

I think
steve VT will not be upset if you tell him you played safe with more oil and still have problems..
he will know it's NOT because of too much oil






    

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Posted on May 17, 2004, 8:35 PM
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low oil ratios

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Whiz,
I've always found that running to rich on oil makes engines run hotter. I do follow the manufacturers specs on all my peds.
RobD

Posted on May 18, 2004, 4:22 AM
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ME too.. by (Login themopedwhiz) Moped Gurus

honda says 25:1 and that's what i run, but i do go a little extra when breaking in new parts

oil has too do more than lube the cylinder

it has to lube the the crankshaft the bearings and the wrist pin in the piston, this also cools those same parts. oil is not just a lube it is a cooling agent..the ability to cool differs with the oil.. syntheic is supposed to offer better cooling and will when used at the same ratio as the original oil, but if you reduce the ratio you might get similar slickness but NOT the same amount of cooling and the temperature will go up

the oil that works in a 100cc 10,000 RPM derbi racing bike ( liquid cooled engine ) is not the same oil for a 4000 RPM street scooter with plastic shrouding over the motor and a pitiful little plastic fan blade to cool the engine

and of course 50:1 is 2.5 oz of oil in 1 gallon of gas. pretty lean lubrication

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Posted on May 18, 2004, 8:41 PM
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General 5-star Moped needs help

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I just bought a 1979 General 5-star for my son from eBay. Bike appears in excellent condition, but won't start. Bike's original owner says it hasn't been started in 10 years. We cleaned the carb, filter, lines, tank, etc., but it won't turn over. There is no battery in the compartment and there are several wires hanging from this area that don't go to each other (are mainly male connectors) - does it need a battery in place in order to complete a circuit? I can't tell if there is a spark - can't see one anyway when holding the plug to the metal at the front of the engine (manifold??). There is a new plug in the bike, gapped properly; the petcock does function and fuel flows nicely, and that's about all I can tell you.... any help would be truly appreciated. I have tried to join this group, but it says I need to be a part of network..... Thanks for any help you can give,
Karen Evans

Posted on May 16, 2004, 5:10 AM
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Re: General 5-star Moped needs help by (Login themopedwhiz) Moped Gurus

use this link to join network54

http://www.network54.com/Login

then join the forum group from the link on this page

check the tail light 'lamp/bulb ' and check the base connector where the lamp sets inside the socket

european MFG mopeds are wired so that if the lamp is not working , the engine doesn't run

if the socket is corroded or lamp burned out , the ingition circuit isn't grounded.

'zippy' or 'don-ohio' can give you info about who built it and who imported & sold it.



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Posted on May 16, 2004, 7:38 AM
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This bike is made inTaiwan, Karen.

by (Login don-ohio)
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But by all accounts,made WELL. Copied after the European style,like Whiz said.
I do not have a wiring diagram for it, but generally, the battery ran the turn signals. The bike should run without the battery,I would think.
Most times that bikes don't run, it is the points needing cleaned and reset, or corrosion on the magneto coils preventing a good spark.
But here's a sure-fire way to get some info. ....:
(1) www.mopedwarehouse.com will probably have a shop manual.
(2) Handy Bikes(talk to BJ)will also probably know a lot about it.1-614-299-0550
(3) Akron Moped may also know or have a shop manual 1-888-753-1700
(4) Or try www.mopedjunkyard.com
This is probably a 6 volt system,Karen. Therefore a tiny 6 volt battery is what will work. don-ohio (:^)

Posted on May 18, 2004, 7:17 AM
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Sticky rear brake

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Last semester my father brought my 87 honda elite 50 to me mid-way through the semester. The rear brake was sticking, probably because it hadn't been used regularly. I sprayed it down really well by the rear wheel where the actuator is with WD-40. That fixed it during the time I was still using it. It went 2 months without being used because the big bore kit was being replaced, until today. I go to take it off the stand, and the brake is grabbing pretty bad. So I wheel it outside and spray it again with WD-40. It seems to have less success this time. 2 things are sticking. First, the handle grip does not return all the time. Second, the lever that the cable is attached to by the brake does not return well either. Even pushing it does not work very well. What steps do I need to take to fix this? New brake pads were put in 500 miles ago, so those don't need replacing. I tried to do the brake job myself, but couldn't get either wheel off, even while jumping up and down on a breaker bar. I guess my mechanic used an air ratchet and got them off fine... He probably used that to put the bolts back on too... and I may have trouble removing them if I need to. I have never lubricated the brake cable itself. So that is 3500 miles, and I don't know if the previous owner did either. A different mechanic I talked to said there is a special too that you can use to force grease down the cable... I do not have that. Also, I'm pretty sure WD-40 is not suitable to use in the cable line, something about just collecting dirt and making things worse, or so I've heard...

Please help, I've got this scooter running again with good compression, I just need the brakes to work before I go cruising.

-Nate

PS. I've registered for this site, but where is the login?? I may have to re-register, although I can probably guess my password from the list that I regularly use

Posted on May 15, 2004, 6:43 PM
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cable needs lube by (Login themopedwhiz) Moped Gurus

http://www.network54.com/My_Account/

use the above link to login
then click your shortcut to this forum after you login

you can use an insulan syringe to put penetrating oil into each end of the cable

you can use the same trick to get oil down to the bottom of the rear lever at the hub

WD-40 drys, thecarrier will evaporate leaving residue.


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Posted on May 15, 2004, 7:41 PM
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elite - turn throttle ..boogs down then quits ?..help

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I have elite 50. we start it , slight rev, start to go
get rpms up a little , then it boogs down , then ...dies
just had carb cleaned .
any clues ( nettle settings ect)to the problem would be much appreciated
thanks jeff

Posted on May 14, 2004, 8:04 PM
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try this test by (Login themopedwhiz) Moped Gurus

immediately when it dies

open the drain screw on the bottom of the carb

see how much gas comes out

I think your scoot has the vaccum operated automatic fuel valve (NO petcock)

if the thing gets clogged with varnish or sediment you can't get any fuel

if the vaccum line is cogged or leaks, NO fuel

TheMopedWhiz

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Posted on May 14, 2004, 8:53 PM
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Well, I'm gonna go up to Lake Erie!

by (Login don-ohio)
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I'm not gonna try the whole North coast of Erie, because I'm worried about the Border reqs., but i plan on enjoying riding a LOT along the southern coast on Saturday and maybe even Sunday too!
I'm taking a pretty good chance by riding the 70cc Sebring that I just put back together(the other Sebring with nearly 40K on it was sitting there calling to me...`Take ME!,Take ME!LOL!).
The piston had been hitting the head, so i hadda get a new wrist pin and bearing and dremel(hope I figured the squish right!Ha!) the combustion chamber out to accomodate the problem,plus I doubled the head gasket. I took it for a ride late last night and it seemed okay. Idles now.....wouldn't before.
I'm hoping it won't overheat and fry it.LOL!
Wish me success,please, as it looks like its gonna only be `The Lake Erie Half-Loop' for me this year! don-ohio

Posted on May 14, 2004, 6:07 AM
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Good Luck

by (Login tedtuner)
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To bad you're not doing the whole loop. I would love to do it also but I don't think it's possible to go the whole distance on a 82 NC50 in the time frame specified. I would probaly blow the engine. Good excuse to travel a long distance on the ped.

Let everybody know how it went.

Posted on May 14, 2004, 12:32 PM
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Enjoy the ride, Wish i could be there by (Login themopedwhiz) Moped Gurus

NM

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Posted on May 14, 2004, 8:48 PM
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