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na and nc50

by Ryan (no login)

what was the difference between the NA and NC? Is the NC a twist throttle like the NA? Are the throttle cables interchangable? I need a 79 NA throttle cable and dealers say honda stopped making it, can someone help?

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call 513-662-7759 before you give up..........

by (Login don-ohio)
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.......on dealers. Let me know how you get along. don-ohio

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Western Hills Honda

by (Login don-ohio)
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That number in previous post is for Western Hills Honda of Cincy. don-ohio

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1978 honda express 50

by mark (no login)

anybody know how much a running 1978 honda express 50 is worth

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Varies a lot with................

by (Login don-ohio)
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..........the condition of it. 175-700 depending upon condition is my guess. don-ohio

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What other hondas use an NC50 engine?

by Aussie1 (no login)

Hi All,

Just wondering what other hondas share the NC50e engine. I think the Camino is the same judging by the compatability of the engine parts - can someone please confirm.

Thanks, Chris in Australia

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i need a float.....

by (Login pastorbuddy)

looking for a carb float for a 1980 honda express nc50. can anyone help?

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did you try.......

by (Login don-ohio)
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....western hills honda in Cincy? don-ohio

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I need a float

by sam ny (no login)

did you try
www.bikebandit.com they list 1 for about 31 dollars.


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found one.....

by (Login pastorbuddy)

at my local dealer.

thanks



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Tire source for express?

by (no login)

Where do i get new tires for my express?

thnaks in advance.

Cheers

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Re: Tire source for express?

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$48.99 will get a new pair of 2.25/14 tires to your door in the 48 states.

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Express 1980 for sale

by (no login)

I have a 80 Honda express for sale. needs air filter assembly and the fuel tank has been etched to seal, no oil automatic mix, must mix oil with gas.

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Moped

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How much you want, and where are you located. I am in fort scott, KS 66701. I have a 1980 with a stuck motor and would like to buy this one for parts if the price is right, and we can arrange shipping...Let me know...Shawn


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1980 Express for sale

by (no login)

Shawn i am in central Wisconsin in a town called Gresham about 1 hour west of Green Bay. I have $175 in it.

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motor question...............

by (Login pastorbuddy)

........will a motor off a 1981 with the kick start fit on a 1980 with the crankup start? if are there any motifications that need to be made? your opinon of the to motors and this prossess.

thans buddy

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tomos A5 in distress

by (Login stutomosA5)

ok, so i got a tomos A5, not sure of the year, maybe a 96, i have also have a 78 and the 2 are pretty much identicle, anyways they both have the same problem, them engine will fire up and as long as its on the kick stand, the wheel will rev up and spin, but once i drop it down it will die, my father thinks it has to do with the magneto and the timing, and the points but i dont ,know what to do about this i have taken it apart and rebuilt the carburator a couple of times but the same problem so somebody please help me! oh yeah, send your response to stu_man_15@yahoo.com or just post it, i dont care haha

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`96 wouldn't be same engine-no points.

by (Login don-ohio)
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The transmission has a centrifugal clutch,and you need to make sure that the clutch isn't grabbing as it is idling.
Then too,the idle has to be set high enough to keep it from dying when the tire stops and the tranny has a little drag.Replace the spark plug.
Make sure the airbox is in place.For more info. on these bikes, I'd go to the www.mopedriders.com and post there.This forum is running pretty slow right now. don-ohio


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here we go again.......

by (Login pastorbuddy)

I was riding the other day and all of a sudden gas was pouring out of the overflow. Every time I stopped it poured out. The moped was running real bad. When I got home I pulled of the carb and cleaned it. After cleaning I started to put it back together and noticed gas inside the float (about half full). This was very puzzling to me I look at it but did not see a hole in it. After using a magnifying glass I saw gas evaporating out of the float a small place that looks like it might have been part of the molding when the carb float was made. Of course the float was now a sinker and allowing gas to flow freely through the carb. I am wondering if this can be repaired with model airplane glue or super glue.

I have also notice lastly that there is a vibration when taking off. What might cause the moped to vibrate? By the way I enjoy riding this Honda express I ride it every day that I can. Before this I was getting about 25-27 mph.

On another note I had an extra muffler and had a friend cut it in half and clean it out for faster speed. As soon as I replaced it with the old on the ped ran real bad missing spitting and sputtering. What might be the problem?

Thanks for your help
Buddy


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Maybe epoxy after you get the gas out.

by (Login don-ohio)
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A good epoxy might last quite a while on the float, but I'd be looking for another one.Search westerh hills honda of Cincinnati,OH for the float or maybe partsfish.com or www.vtcycles.com in Hawaii.
Now....the vibration.....is the wheel loose? Motor loose? Magneto loose? i dunno.....but I'd have a friend watch me take off and then I'd watch him/her take off on it.
The exhaust you are putting back on isn't clogged? don-ohio


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Check THIS out!

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TheMopedGuys Adventure

Take a ride with TheMopedGuys and watch the 2:45 minute video of TheMopedGuys crossing the USA on mopeds.

If you have a friend or family member serving in the military overseas and can get an email off to them, send them this link after you watch it. A little taste of home, the USA



About TheMopedGuys
We set the first unofficial world record for time and distance on mopeds. We rode mopeds from New Haven, CT, to the Santa Monica, CA, Pier in 21 days 6 1/2 hours at an average speed of 25 mph all on back roads with no support vehicle or cellular communication. We are not selling anything on our website if you would like to check us out themopedguys.com . Also we have a 2 minute video on YouTube of USA crossing the country on mopeds.


Our next ride will be to break our first record. On our next record attempt, we will have hands free cellular communication and will talk to anyone who calls, along with daily updates and video to the website. What State do you live in? Even when setting a record, our Friends will come first. Our route will be posted before the ride, and we will stop along the way for a quick second to meet our Friends and take pictures with you. Your picture will then be posted on the website on the Story Behind the Picture Page. Stay Tuned....More to come.

This is a short clip of the ride across the country..Enjoy the ride...
Filming was done with one hand on the camera, one hand on the throttle.

TheMopedGuys Adventure video on YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIoycSKPwys>


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In case I missed something......

by (Login don-ohio)
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....here's a message from `The Moped Guys'

TheMopedGuys Adventure


Take a ride with TheMopedGuys and watch the 2:45 minute video of TheMopedGuys crossing the USA on mopeds.

If you have a friend or family member serving in the military overseas and can get an email off to them, send them this link after you watch it. A little taste of home, the USA

About TheMopedGuys

We set the first unofficial world record for time and distance on mopeds. We rode mopeds from New Haven, CT, to the Santa Monica, CA, Pier in 21 days 6 1/2 hours at an average speed of 25 mph all on back roads with no support vehicle or cellular communication. We are not selling anything on our website if you would like to check us out themopedguys.com . Also we have a 2 minute video on YouTube of USA crossing the country on mopeds.


Our next ride will be to break our first record. On our next record attempt, we will have hands free cellular communication and will talk to anyone who calls, along with daily updates and video to the website. What State do you live in? Even when setting a record, our Friends will come first. Our route will be posted before the ride, and we will stop along the way for a quick second to meet our Friends and take pictures with you. Your picture will then be posted on the website on the Story Behind the Picture Page. Stay Tuned....More to come.

This is a short clip of the ride across the country..Enjoy the ride...

Filming was done with one hand on the camera, one hand on the throttle.

TheMopedGuys Adventure video on YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIoycSKPwys



Visit our website at themopedguys.com


Dedicated to our Troops


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honda for sale in Houston

by michael (no login)

i thought someone might be interested in this...

I just saw the posting today. I'm not the guy selling the bike.

http://houston.craigslist.org/mcy/266122715.html



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Clicked and got nothing...posting removed?

by (Login don-ohio)
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But THANKS for trying to help,anyway.
don-ohio

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Anyone know about Honda pistons?

by (no login)

Hiya

I have a '84 Honda Gyro 'Up' and just discovered the piston is cracked - can anyone tell me if I need a specific piston for this bike/engine or did Honda use the same one for other bikes in the range? I'm having a hard time finding a replacement.

Many thanks
Grahame

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I'm sure someone here DOES know.... WHIZ?

by (Login don-ohio)
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Have you done a search on this site and others? Here's a place to go to ask......: www.mopedriders.com

Go to the forum and ask. They might tell you to ask it on the scooter part of the site(a part of the organization I don't frequent), so that would be the forum to ask on,if they do.
But wherever you ask, you will get an answer on that site. don-ohio

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LIGHTING PROBLEM

by (no login)

HAVE A 1978 NC50 EXPRESS. GOT IT RUNNING GOOD BUT WHEN IT'S REVED UP THE LIGHTING COIL IS PUTTING OUT MORE THAN 12V AND IT BLOWS THE HEADLIGHT BULB. ANY IDEAS?

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Sorry for the delay,Christine.

by (Login don-ohio)
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It sounds like you might not have a battery installed? The battery is the acceptor of extra voltage during spikes at higher rpms and will keep the headlight from blowing.
If you have a battery installed,make sure the connections are clean and tight. don-ohio

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my 80 express

by (Login pastorbuddy)


hey this is buddy again.

well all was doing good until i changed the air filter. trying to keep it all origanal i put on a new origanal air filter. and now it will only run about 20mph and my plug keeps fouling out and the ped backfires after it warms up and is ran about 5 miles. before it ran very well at 25-27 mph but the filter was an cut foam ac filter. that i had to shime oprn the air box to allow more air flow. this ped has only 1000 miles on it. i tryed ajusting the carb with no luck. it seems like air restriction but im not sure if it is what am i to do?

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it was running good............

by (Login don-ohio)
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........with an opened airbox,right? Then open this one up some and do a plug chop. You might have to go with less dense foam.......mainly make sure that whatever you do,you check it by looking at the plug to make sure you're not running too lean(too much air). don-ohio

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honda nc50b - dx trouble ... help please ?

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hello there i have a 1983 registered honda nc50b - dx bike and ive got some trouble with it ..

thing is its been sat since 2003 and i brought it off a friend .

this is the trouble i have ..

it starts and runs with no problem ....

when you rev the bike ( open the throttle) the bike doesnt pick up speed nor does the engine revs increase and the wheel maintains its same slow speed ??

what can i do ? anyhelp would be great ...

do i need to put gearbox oil in it? or do something?

ive cleaned the carb out, and replaced the plug .. but still the same .. any help would be great

reguards

richard

from the uk



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Hi! Is this a scooter?

by (Login don-ohio)
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If it is,you might get better results searching or asking on a twist n' go scooter forum. don-ohio

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1978 Honda Express

by Matt (no login)

Merry Christmas all, I'm looking for the cover to an airbox for my 1978 Honda Express. It's listed as part number 1 on this site in the carburetor diagram.It's on the left side of the bike. Can anyone help? I'll pay top dollar for a clean example.

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Try www.westernhillshonda.com

by (Login don-ohio)
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NM

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airbox

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I'm just finishing up a rebuild on a 1978 express and am also looking for an air box & the cover that goes over the oilpump/fuel line area, colour yellow top choice followed by whatever. the Honda store listed on this site has been very helpful.

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Starting Problems

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I've read everything I can find on the web about how to get an old express running. I have a 1980 Express in excellent condition. It appears to have always been stored indoors so it doesn't have much corrosion or weathering. I've tried everything I can find to get it running: cleaned carb, checked compression, checked spark, checked points, checked fuel flow. Everything seems to be in good working order, but I can't get it to start. Any suggestions. Also, would I have any luck finding a shop that knows anything about these?

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Can't just look at points.

by (Login don-ohio)
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Shouldn't be too hard to get it going.
Usually non-starting is 2 things:The points aren't contacting WELL, or the magneto is rusty,needing cleaned up.
But if you have a spark, it should fire.
So number 2 would be fuel supply into the combustion chamber. The engine has to suck it in there,so a blown crankseal or vacuum leak would be suspected if fuel is getting into the carb.
Is the spark plug getting wet? It will if you choke it and try to start it and it doesn't start.
Does it fire if you dribble a little gas into the spark plug hole? If it does, you have a fuel delivery problem. don-ohio (:^)


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Re: Can't just look at points.

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I pulled the plug. It is getting wet. I put some gas in the plug hole, and it still didn't start. At times, it acts like it wants to but never does. I am getting a pretty good fuel leak at the carb. It's coming out the tube at the bottom of the frame but is also leaking at the carb itself. I haven't determined the source of the leak at the carb. When I first started working on this, I pulled the carb completely apart, cleaned it, blew all the passages out with an air hose so I assume that it is clean.

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Okay,shouldn't be leaking........

by (Login don-ohio)
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........out of the carb. If it is,the float is probably sticking in the down position,or the needle valve isn't good or needle seat is corroded or dirty.
Inspect float to make sure it DOES float and isn't full of gas. don-ohio (:^D

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Re: Okay,shouldn't be leaking........

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I just inspected the float. The float is not gas logged. The needle and seat are in good condition and clean and move freely. I've since dried the plug, cleaned and rechecked the points. Still no luck. I've tried throttle open, closed, halfway. I've tried 2 different recommended settings on the air mixture.


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Boy! This is a stumper!

by (Login don-ohio)
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Did you put in FRESH fuel? I have seen people try to start a `ped with old fuel with no results,but I am assuming you completely flushed and refilled the fuel?
If the spark arrives at the proper time,and there is an air/fuel mix, it should at LEAST fire.
If it's sucking fuel into the engine, it is not a crank seal.
I forgot whether you said you had cleaned out the muffler and exhaust port or not?
Keep trying, and be gentle with the wind-up starter on it as you do. Let us know how you get along? I hope you get her going.
If possible, since you have spark,check the timing of the spark, and make sure it's ocurring about 20 degrees or so BEFORE piston is at top-dead center. don-ohio (:^D

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a few things?

by (Login pastorbuddy)

something i have noticed the last few weeks...

the moped is slow at take off. why? i have to get on the throdle and hold the bike to raise the rpms before i take off or it is slow. it speeds up ok after take off.

also, what do you think about drilling holes at the backside of the muffler?

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one more question?

by Buddy (no login)

how can i get more power at take off?

it is slow at the start but quickly catches up any suggestion?

and as for my premix it is 4oz to 1 gal.

and what do you think about drilling holes in the back end of the muffler?

ok more than one thing sorry.

thanks

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You can kit it.

by (Login don-ohio)
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www.vtcycles use to have bore kits that fit.
Don't drill the muffler,just make sure it and the exhaust port where it bolts up are clean of deposits. don-ohio

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oil/fuel mix ratio

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I have a 2004 MZ mosquito RX 50 and run per-mix at 50 to 1 and I have a lot of smoke out of the exhaust is this the right ratio

Thank You!
Michel

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If it requires pre-mixing.

by (Login don-ohio)
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Yeah,50:1 is a little lean but will work.40:1 is a lot safer.
I have heard of these,but don't know what they are exactly. They don't have oil-injection?
If it smokes a lot and is getting the proper amount of oil, it might be a flooding carb,but it would run rough.
Make sure to use good quality oil meant for mopeds or motorcycles. don-ohio (:^D

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