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When Did Things Go and Get All Expensive?

May 18 2008 at 11:00 AM
Steven G. Patton  (Login stevengpatton)

I was in the new "Rolex" boutique in South Coast plaza (Southern California) yesterday and I was amazed by the prices. I haven't been collecting watches for all that long (maybe 15 years), but I can remember a day when a Rolex S/S Sub was $3000. Now they are over $6k! Just seems a bit out of whack that a base model is now $6000+

My first S/S Daytona was $6450. When I purchased it, that price seems like a fair price for the watch. The one I just bought last month (again, at sticker) was over $9000. Seems like a lot for a S/S watch.

I understand that one needs to take into consideration inflation and the current exchange rate when pricing these watches, but it is getting to a point (IMHO) that the watch isn't worth what the brands are asking us to pay for them. It just seemed like a more fair price "back in the day" then it does these days and these current prices don't make the process nearly as fun (for me anyway).

I'd enjoy hearing your thoughts. I trust everyone is having a great Sunday,

SGP
S/S Daytona (white & blk)
S/S Sub
S/S Kermit
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The became more expensive in carefully calculated steps and not<more>

May 18 2008, 12:16 PM 

...just one big jump.

If you have a price increase of 12% on a $5000 watch on 4/1/2006 you have $5600 MSRP....Then on 4/1/2007 another 12% brings the MSRP to $6272...then this year on April Fool's day it goes to $7025.....

So we have a $2000 jump in 731 days but 3 x April 1 price increase.

If you then take the fact that some areas of the world are growing faster than others, you see the supply go to those areas and, obviously, less supply then goes to the old formula 1/3 Americas, 1/3 Asia, 1/3 Europe.

This gives you less of a discounted price and less supply with increased demand.

Think of Oil...if we drilled for it in ANWR, Colorado, The Dakotas and the Great lakes and off the coast of Florida/California(where the Chinese are drilling)...then we would have more supply and the marketplace would decide where the cost should be.

Raising prices gives more return for the same inventory but you lose clients. Then the assimilation factor moves in when new clients come in at the higher price and the cycle starts again.

Oh, and one more thing.....when prices get so high...those who already own a $5000 Panerai, Rolex et. al....will buy a new strap rather than pay the price increase on a new watch....a new look for little cash and no inflation.

I hope this helps.

Elliot




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(Login UncleLew2)
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It is all of our fault's....the company puts the price on it>>>>

May 18 2008, 12:17 PM 

and we pay it. We have no one to blame but ourselves!!!!

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(Login fania123)

Dont forget the fact that some pay the flippers there prices that doesnt help either.

May 18 2008, 2:18 PM 

nt

 
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EXCELLENT point....those individuals who get the call from the AD<more>

May 18 2008, 4:57 PM 

and run down to pick up the watch at retail + Tax and then flip it keep the Corporate profits UP and the Churn creating the market for more distribution.

It is a high price to pay to stay on the "Good Boys" list at the AD.

Elliot





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(Login tevj)

do people really do that?....how pathetic! (nt)

May 18 2008, 7:49 PM 

nt

 
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Its one main reason in my opinion prices are what they are today.

May 18 2008, 7:52 PM 

nt

 
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