God, Mr. Ash is going to hurt me...

the Zolge are about as visual as Buck-Tick or X Japan were. They were marketed in a very similar way in Japan at the same time.

EoD are about as visual as Blam Honey or Velvet Eden are.

You can't separate goth from visual yet, no matter how much Mr. Ash (or KENZO, or Ko-zi, or any of them want to). Maybe in a few more years that will change, as it seems to be heading that way.

And PLC themselves say they're not a visual band. So you can't quite say the US has got a great visual band coming, either.

(which I think is shit. PLC are obviously smeared into visual-kei).

And Machine did play a live in LA, and were slated to play more, but canceled due to 9-11. X and Penicillin have both done gigs here for tape as well, but Penicillin apparently had to pay punks to see it....

ah well.