Come on now brother, don't get your shorts bunched up over the issue!
(no login) Posted Jun 8, 2004 9:46 PM
You are correct in your research and I appreciate you bringing it to light. This is a very informative page I found on the subject written by Catholics.
Not that because it was written by Catholics it's any less of a truth, just a different perspective, sort of a check and balance for us crazy bible believers :) To take a more common sense approach to the bible controversy please research the bible doctrine of preservation and inerrancy. I think the main point to the brothers post was that he believers (whether copyright or no copyright) that God has PRESERVED His book through the ages. If you believe that (maybe you don't) then you must take the next logical step. How did He preserve it? Based on bible doctrine (any bible) he did it by the methodology of copies, written copies and TRANSLATION. The next question might be, is it perfect? Again, bible doctrine says overwhelmingly YES, it's perfect, it's HOLY SCRIPTURE. If it's preserved, if it's supposed to be preserved infallibly, then where is it at for me? Well, I and the brother would agree that it's found in the KJV. Every word in it is true. It's an ACCURATE translation. Could you translate it differently, or phrase verses in varying manner? Yes, you could. The point is...it's ACCURATE! That's the main point, accuracy; other bibles just aren't as accurate as the KJV. You can be what you want; nobody (I hope) wants to rule over your faith. Do you think God is going to say on judgment day..."You idiot, you thought I had a perfectly preserved translation for you, you are so dumb. How could you think such a thing of me"? It's better to believe you have a book that you can stand on, that can be confused with subjectivism, THAT IS A STANDARD for all faith and practice. Something you are held accountable to. That's the main difference between KJVo people and other folks, Catholics, other Evangelicals, Protestants, etc. They believe they have a STANDARD for faith and practice! They all have a place they can come to objectively that will be right, and they will be wrong. I think by the way, calling people liars isn't correct, but when you called them (and myself) ignorant, you were right. I was ignorant. I used to use that argument, not as the foundation for the KJV, but as a sub point among many points. I will no longer use that point thanks to your light, I appreciate your point of view. I still believe the KJV to be the source for all matters of faith and practice. It's where we get our truth from. If that truth isn't rooted in truth but falseness, then it's no longer truth and my foundation has crumbled. All I'm left with is my own opinion, translation, or how I think it should be. How can anyone come to conclusions with that? Scholars all argue among themselves on what the bible should say in any given translation. When they don't want the verse to say what it says, they say..."a better translation would be...". It's ridiculousness! If you don't want to use a KJV, then don't, but when we discuss doctrine, PICK ONE (version), or make your own up from Gen to Rev! The point is, have a STANDARD, and if you don't have a standard...GET ONE! Do you have a standard or not? If so, what is it? I'd like to know.
I hope you reply back as I'm interested in your reply.