properganda rubbish about basra road 91
December 1 2003 at 10:52 AM
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Ben Britain (Login ben-britain)
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just to continue from my conversation in another thread with gyrene.
here is what i was talking about. when this happened there were no reporters there until many hours afterwards. they all say similar rubbish but can't verify what they say. here is an example and i am going to pull it to peices afterwards
This passage was taken from “The Opening Guns of World War III: Washington’s Assault on Iraq” by Jack Barnes, the national secretary of the Socialist Workers Party (US), on March 30, 1991.
The most concentrated single bloodletting was organized by the U.S. command in the final forty-eight hours of the invasion, as Iraqi soldiers fled Kuwait along the roads to Basra. While publicly denying that Iraqi forces were withdrawing from Kuwait, Washington ordered that tens of thousands of fleeing Iraqi soldiers be targeted for wave after wave of bombing, strafing, and shelling. These were people who were putting up no resistance, many with no weapons, others with rifles packed in bedrolls, leaving in cars, trucks, carts, and on foot. Many civilians from Iraq, Kuwait, and immigrant workers from other countries were killed at the same time as they tried to flee.
The U.S. armed forces bombed one end of the main highway from Kuwait city to Basra, sealing it off. They bombed the other end of the highway and sealed it off. They positioned mechanized artillery units on the hills overlooking it. And then, from the air and from the land they simply massacred every living thing on the road. Fighter bombers, helicopter gunships, and armored battalions poured merciless firepower on traffic jams backed up for as much as twenty miles. When the traffic became gridlocked, the B-52s were sent in for carpet bombing.
That was the killing zone. You couldn’t move down the road. You couldn’t move up the road. You couldn’t move off the road. You couldn’t surrender, wave a white flag, or give yourself up. The allied forces simply kept bombing and firing - at every person, jeep, truck, car, and bicycle. One allied air force officer called it a “turkey shoot.” …
This slaughter, along with similar unreported operations during Bush’s heroic hundred hours, ranks among the great atrocities of modern warfare. It was the Guernica, the Hiroshima, the Dresden, the My Lai of the U.S. war against Iraq.
Gen. Colin Powell, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, was asked by a reporter to provide an estimate of the number of Iraqis killed as a result of combined allied bombing and ground operations. …. Powell replied: “It’s really not a number I’m terribly interested in.”
http://www.synergynet.co.uk/sheffield-iraq/articles/roadtobasra.htm
let me make a few points about te facts of what happened. i'll tell you what is true and what is false
"While publicly denying that Iraqi forces were withdrawing from Kuwait, Washington ordered that tens of thousands of fleeing Iraqi soldiers be targeted for wave after wave of bombing"
TRUE. the order was given for air support but it was due to a distress call from ground forces on recce and supply sabotage
"and shelling"
FALSE. there was no artilery involvement, ground forces were too close
"These were people who were putting up no resistance"
FALSE. we took cover for as long as 10 mins in parts because of the amount of fire we came under
"many with no weapons"
FALSE.were they using cap guns??
"leaving in cars, trucks, carts, and on foot"
HALF TRUE.the only time they ventured onto foot was to flee across the desert once the airstrikes began
"Many civilians from Iraq, Kuwait, and immigrant workers from other countries were killed at the same time as they tried to flee."
FALSE.if they were civilians then why were 90% wearing iraqi uniforms? they were simply in civilan vehicles that they had already been seen stealing
"The U.S. armed forces bombed one end of the main highway from Kuwait city to Basra, sealing it off. They bombed the other end of the highway and sealed it off."
FALSE>it certainly was'nt end to end but rather straight through from north to south
"They positioned mechanized artillery units on the hills overlooking it."
FALSE.no they did'nt because that is where we were
"And then, from the air and from the land they simply massacred every living thing on the road. "
HALF TRUE.from there we won the battle which had its first shots fored by iraqis
"Fighter bombers,"
TRUE
"helicopter gunships, and armored battalions "
FALSE.these only arrived two days later, they were fighting further to the west with iraqi tank columns
"poured merciless firepower on traffic jams backed up for as much as twenty miles. "
TRUE, they were backed up because the column stopped moving and broke to the desert in panic
"When the traffic became gridlocked, the B-52s were sent in for carpet bombing. "
FALSE, absolute b*llocks. no B-52's were involved at all
"That was the killing zone."
TRUE, it was a vicious fire fight and bombing support campaign
"You couldn’t move down the road. You couldn’t move up the road. "
TRUE. there was no way north or south for vehilcles, but most that stayed were persuing a firefight with us for sometime before there zone was devastated
"You couldn’t move off the road."
FALSE. there was nothing to stop vehicles retreating into the desert, as many did.
"You couldn’t surrender, wave a white flag, or give yourself up. The allied forces simply kept bombing and firing - at every person, jeep, truck, car, and bicycle."
FALSE. the vehilcles that left the road and fled to the desert were left alone unless they continued to fire at groud troops then they would be destroyed by us
"One allied air force officer called it a “turkey shoot.” …"
it is always easy from where they see it. they should have tried swapping places with us LOL
Hope this sheds some light on what you read in reports to actual events. bit of a difference eh?
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