The Global Military Forum
 


  << Previous Topic | Next Topic >>Return to Index  

What's next after Taiwan?

April 11 2004 at 1:21 PM
No score for this post

  (Login moughoun)
Soldiers

 

I cant see your post

(GLAINE AR GCROI, NEART AR NGEAG AGUS BEART DE REIR ARM MBRIARTHAR)</P>

EDIT: I edited the title.</P>

Thank's

(GLAINE AR GCROI, NEART AR NGEAG AGUS BEART DE REIR ARM MBRIARTHAR)



    
This message has been edited by moughoun on Apr 11, 2004 1:34 PM
This message has been edited by Diunei on Apr 11, 2004 1:25 PM


 
Scoring disabled. You must be logged in to score posts.Respond to this message   
AuthorReply

(Login Diunei)

Re: Diunei where are you??

No score for this post
April 11 2004, 1:22 PM 

Many people have the erroneous (IMHO) assumption that China is an aggressive conqueror and point to Taiwan as its “proof” despite the fact Chinese history has shown otherwise.  Nevertheless, there are concerns about China’s policies and its territorial claims.

 

About Taiwan, it should be noted that the central government must first be successful in regaining control of the province.  If undisputed sovereignty is not re-established by Beijing then the entire country will meltdown and there will not be other moves for a long, long time.

 

After the Taiwan issue has been dealt with, two other substantial issues remain.  One is the Spratly islands dispute.  China has a very strong case here and is quite capable of getting a favourable diplomatic solution to the issue.  It is unlikely military force will be used.

 

Next is the Diaoyu islands dispute with Japan.  Here there is a greater chance of military conflict because Japan has used violence against Chinese activists there, its claim is dubious and there is extreme hatred between the two countries.  And Japan is adopting a more aggressive posture there as well.


 
Scoring disabled. You must be logged in to score posts.

(Login Diunei)

Re: Diunei where are you??

No score for this post
April 11 2004, 1:24 PM 

Sorry, I think this will be my last post because my computer is dying.  I am getting constant IE errors and the video display is poor.  But when I am on another computer I will further the debate, so don't be shy to reply.

Cheers!


 
Scoring disabled. You must be logged in to score posts.


(Login moughoun)
Soldiers

Re: What's next after Taiwan?

No score for this post
April 11 2004, 1:33 PM 

After the Taiwan issue has been dealt with, two other substantial issues remain. One is the Spratly islands dispute. China has a very strong case here and is quite capable of getting a favourable diplomatic solution to the issue. It is unlikely military force will be used.



Next is the Diaoyu islands dispute with Japan. Here there is a greater chance of military conflict because Japan has used violence against Chinese activists there, its claim is dubious and there is extreme hatred between the two countries. And Japan is adopting a more aggressive posture there as well.


About the Sptratly's what kind of political and diplomatic settlement could there be and do you see a wider Asian war brewing over all these territorial claim's by the different nation's in the region

(GLAINE AR GCROI, NEART AR NGEAG AGUS BEART DE REIR ARM MBRIARTHAR)

 
Scoring disabled. You must be logged in to score posts.


(Login HBN2025)

Re: What's next after Taiwan?

No score for this post
April 11 2004, 2:04 PM 

Next? Let's me set it one by one.

First:
=====
Taiwan, this babe beauty must be taken in, no matter what the cost is.

Next:
=====
Vietnam.
Beat the viets sothat they forget how to spell Chinese Southern Sea for 500 hundreds years.
Maybe we should militarily occupy this country and rule it for 500 years until they all speak Chinese (btw their viet language is so stupid urgly sounding).

While some other countries like Malysia, Philipines also claim Spratly Islands, no big deal, China will treat them well because they treat Chinese not bad in their countries. We can share the Oil Fields with these 2 countries.

Next:
=====
Japan.
We can do this together with Korea. Colonizing japan is easy, they have been slave nation of USA for 60 years, so be slave nation of Chinese and Koreans for 600 years more is no problem for the japanese.

Next:
=====
Look into India Ocean.

Above is already a Large Project enough.

To Be Continued.

lol

EDIT: No need for your profanity!







**********
« Russia lost the war yes. They defeated the Germans but they lost the war. »

Posted by Thorsten (Login Bolkenstein) on 2004-04-06! Ha!Ha!


    
This message has been edited by Diunei on Apr 11, 2004 7:45 PM


 
Scoring disabled. You must be logged in to score posts.

(Login Diunei)

Re: What's next after Taiwan?

No score for this post
April 11 2004, 7:52 PM 

About the Sptratly's what kind of political and diplomatic settlement could there be and do you see a wider Asian war brewing over all these territorial claim's by the different nation's in the region

Of the governments claiming the Spratleys, the ROC, PRC and Vietnam have identical claims that are based on history (Vietnam was a part of China until annexed by France.)  Malaysia and the Philippines allege the islands were uninhabited and hence their claim is weak.  With a combination of historical facts and China's growing economic and military power, Beijing is confident it can resolve the problem diplomatically.  I believe the compromise being proposed by Beijing is that, with the exception of a couple of reefs just off the Malaysian coast (which Beijing would cede to Malaysia), Beijing gets the sovereignty over the islands but it shares some of the oil & gas revenues with the other governments except the Philippines.   


 
Scoring disabled. You must be logged in to score posts.

Banner MAN
(Login moughoun)
Soldiers

Re: What's next after Taiwan?

No score for this post
April 12 2004, 6:26 AM 

Of the governments claiming the Spratleys, the ROC, PRC and Vietnam have identical claims that are based on history (Vietnam was a part of China until annexed by France.) Malaysia and the Philippines allege the islands were uninhabited and hence their claim is weak. With a combination of historical facts and China's growing economic and military power, Beijing is confident it can resolve the problem diplomatically. I believe the compromise being proposed by Beijing is that, with the exception of a couple of reefs just off the Malaysian coast (which Beijing would cede to Malaysia), Beijing gets the sovereignty over the islands but it shares some of the oil & gas revenues with the other governments except the Philippines.

Has there been any disscusion's with these Countrie's on the matter and what if any response has there been from them about China's claim to the area??

(GLAINE AR GCROI, NEART AR NGEAG AGUS BEART DE REIR ARM MBRIARTHAR)

 
Scoring disabled. You must be logged in to score posts.


(Login Mao_Zedong)

Re: What's next after Taiwan?

No score for this post
April 12 2004, 9:05 AM 

Has there been any disscusion's with these Countrie's on the matter and what if any response has there been from them about China's claim to the area??

*******************************************************

there have been several froums held on the issue but they have always ended at the same place. I recently read a book called Dragonstrike by Humpfrey Hawksley and Simon Holbertson. it said that if any military power was used by China, Malaysia, Singapore and Philipines would offer no resistance and hand over to the chinese immediatly. Taiwan would put up meagre resistance before being handed over to CHinese marines but Vietname would fight until they are all dead.
Fighters would deal a pearl harbor style attack on Vietnams main naval base (sor forgot da name of it ) achieving knocking out 40% of vietnams navy. 80% of vietnams airforce would be crippled and what remaining would be scrambled and destroyes by hordes of J-10s and Su-30/27. then china asserts control over vietnam and launches a full on assualt on the Vietnam border to avenge the 40 000+ chinese dead from before.
i think the response would be like that. USA has intrests but they are unwilling to use froc4e and will try co operate with china. France~~~ no idea, might help vietnam. that could spell trouble... but in the end, china will annihiliate any part of asia that wants to stand up against it...end of story. no resistance.


*China shall re-establish control over its long lost territories...*

 
Scoring disabled. You must be logged in to score posts.
Current Topic - What's next after Taiwan?  Respond to this message   
  << Previous Topic | Next Topic >>Return to Index  
Find more forums on Military, Law Enforcement and Emergency ServicesCreate your own forum at Network54
 Copyright © 1999-2009 Network54. All rights reserved.   Terms of Use   Privacy Statement