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UAV's are our future

May 15 2004 at 7:36 AM
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an intresting article i found...

Future Unmanned Aerial Vehicles


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The following is a brief summary of some of the existing unmanned aerial recoinaissance and combat vehicles under development around the world. For the extensive listing of UAVs already in operation check out the Brief Guide to UAVs.

Recoinnaissance UAVs

conventional TO

vertical TO

assisted TO

micro UAVs

Combat UAVs

kamikaze UCAVs

weapons carriers

escorted UCAVs

Recoinnaissance UAVs



Dark Star (US)

Several countries around the world continue developing hi-tech, expensive recoinaissance UAVs. Majority of these aircraft are capable of conventional take-off and landing and are designed to operate over enemy territory for long periods of time and gather a wide variety of intelligence information. Some of the more known UAV designs in this class are the Dark Star and the Global Hawk conventional take-off UAVs developed in the US.



Global Hawk (US)

Recent experience of combat deployment of UAVs, such as during the NATO aggression against Yugoslavia, shows that UAVs can be effective if properly deployed within a supported environment. The war in Yugoslavia also showed that such an environment is exceptionally difficult to create in combat conditions within a limited time frame. As the result, NATO completely failed to established real-time battlefield surveillance in Yugoslavia, which resulted minimal damage to the Yugoslav ground forces.



Predator (US) at the Yugoslav Aeronautical Museum

The UAVs also proved to be extremely volnurable to even the most rudimentary air defenses. In the airspace, supposedly dominated by NATO fighters, NATO UAVs were regularly and successfully attacked by Mi-8 transport helicopters. Ground fire also proved deadly to UAVs operating at low speeds and altitudes well in range of all types of anti-aircraft artillery. Even the most advanced UAVs deployed by the US over Yugoslvia, such as the Predator, fell pray to machine-gun fire from the ground.



German CL-289 ate the Yugoslav Aeronautical Museum

The faster, jet-powered UAVs, such as the CL-289 deployed over Yugoslavia mainly by Germany, proved to be even more volnurable and less effective. The German military was even forced to temporarily halt all UAV operations over Yugoslavia after sustaining heavy losses from Serbian air defenses primarily targeting American cruise missiles.



Phoenix UAV of the British Army at the Belgrade Military Museum

One of the biggest losers of the UAV war in the skies over Yugoslavia was the British Phoenix. After a protracted development program and millions over budget, the British Army deployed Phoenix UAVs over Yugoslavia only to see most of them destroyed. The Phoenix UAV control bases also failed to establish real-time communication with their command centers due to the lack of satellite communication equipment.



Yugoslav MiG-29 mock-up

Yugoslavia's highly capable anti-aircraft defenses, which escaped massive NATO attacks practically unscathed, forced NATO to operate its recoinnaissance aircraft at higher altitudes, which resulted in NATO combat aircraft bombing mockup military hardware but more often just empty space.

Despite such significant shortfalls of existing UAV technology, the war in Yugoslavia proved the UAV concept and provided valuable information, now being used to develop a new generation of UAVs. However, the lessons of UAV operations over Yugoslavia seem to appear in a different light to the countries involved. Americans are going with huge, conventional take-off and landing UAVs that can operate at high altitudes for long periods of time and can carry a very substantial payload. Of course, these remarkable aircraft come at a price that, perhaps, only the US can afford. The large size of such UAVs and the extensive ground infrustructure required to operate them add to the problem.

Other countries are working on smaller tactical UAVs, most of which are capable of rocket-assisted take-off and parachute landing. Driven by the war in Chechnya, the Russian military is actively testing its UAVs in combat conditions. These include the small Pchela and Schmel UAVs by Yakovlev Design Bureau as well as larger and faster Tupolev Tu-243 Reis-D jet-powered UAV. Russian designers place emphasis on low cost, high survavibility, as well as ease of deployment and maintenance of their UAVs. This is the approach selected by most UAV designers around the world.

Israel and several other countries are working on the so-called kamikaze UAVs - the latest in the family of "flying bombs." Such UAVs would allow troops in the field to conduct basic aerial recoinaissance operations as well as to engage any valuable targets detected, such as enemy air defenses. This type of UAVs will be deployed prior to an aerial strike against enemy ground forces.

Both the US and Russia are working on UAV designs that will function as platforms for launching long-range air-to-air ad air-to-ground weapons. In the US an unmanned version of the F-16 fighter is under development, while the Russians are working on a large, high-speed unmanned weapons platform for attacking carrier battle groups. This UAV may be similar in size and performance to the Tupolev Tu-123 Yastreb, which entered service in 1964 and remained in mass-production until 1972. This UAV was capable of operating at speeds of up to 2700 km/h and altitude of between 1.8 and 22 km.


I condemn the Imperialist - Christian genocide of the Iraqis , NAtive Americans , Muslims , Chinese , Vietnamese , Somalians , Koreans , .... and others in the Double faced - Disgusting imperialist empire also known as the West .

If its against us Asians, it is treated as a small matter, if the same Incident happens against the west it is an ASTROCITY

 
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May 15 2004, 7:48 AM 

Some projects :



AVPRO's FOAS-1 concept could be produced in single-seat manned or unmanned versions, both of which would heavily rely on speed, maneuverability, stealth, advanced on-board systems, and new generation "smart" weapons.



AVPRO's FOAS-1 concept could be produced in single-seat manned or unmanned versions, both of which would heavily rely on speed, maneuverability, stealth, advanced on-board systems, and new generation "smart" weapons.



Bell's tilt-rotor UAV for the US Navy's VTOL UAV System (MAVUS) program





an unmanned version of the F-16 fighter for the FOAS requirement





Harpy SEAD kamikaze UCAV by Israel Aircraft Industries



a STOL UCAV proposal by Lockheed Martin to be operated from advance assault ships



Lockheed Martin's submarine - launched UCAV project



a new generation of weapons such as Proteus, a Modular Multi-Role (MMR) stand-off airframe fitted with changeable weapon modules, could be launched from manned and unmanned aircraft.



Archangel UCAVs may provide air cover for RAF ASTOR aircraft on station over enemy territory



LO supercruising UCAV project by Lockheed Martin



the VTOL UCAV - 1 AVPRO Avenger anti - ship weapons carrier



the VTOL UCAV - 1 AVPRO Avenger anti - ship weapons carrier



UCAV-2 conventional take-off from carrier deck, flying wing design, AA, AG and recoinaissance missions.



UCAV-2 conventional take-off from carrier deck, flying wing design, AA, AG and recoinaissance missions.



UCAV-3 AVPRO Archangel, AA, AG, air - to - ship weapons platform



6-meter-long, deep - penetration strike UCAV concept by Lockheed Martin



a future USAF or NATO air warfare package concept from Lockheed Martin that combines manned and unmanned air-refuelable strike aircraft. It is being considered for the FOAS system.

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What do you think?



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If its against us Asians, it is treated as a small matter, if the same Incident happens against the west it is an ASTROCITY

 
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May 15 2004, 9:55 AM 

a lot of groovy ideas up there - unfortunately thats all quite a lot of them are at the moment: ideas and concepts.

UAVs and UCAVs are amazing things to have on the battlefield, but there will always be a need to keep actual personel on the front line for eyes-on and hands-on work.

whats better for painting a room, a man with a paintbrush or a robot programmed to do the job?

 
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May 15 2004, 10:43 AM 

In China's case I think the PLA can turn a seemingly immense burden into a great advantage.  Given the fact China has vast numbers of really obsolete aircraft (i.e. MiG-19s and MiG-21s) these would be good UAVs, IMHO, because they are already paid for, they are supersonic and can carry a larger weapons load than current UAVs.

 
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May 15 2004, 10:13 PM 

I am not with this. you will always need a pilot. some people have said that the raptor was to be the last manned plane. they are wrong. exciting ideas but someone back with a computer wont be able to be as good.

China will Overcome the West, somehow, somday, It will.

 
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May 16 2004, 6:53 AM 

yes there will always be call for proper pilots, but not every job needs a manned plane. reconnaissance, for example, deep behind enemy lines is a job much better done from a seat 300 miles away.

 
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May 16 2004, 7:00 AM 

i agree with that. what will happen to air forves around the world though? will they replaced with 16 year old computer geeks? i certainly hope not..

China will Overcome the West, somehow, somday, It will.

 
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May 16 2004, 1:48 PM 

kamikaze UCAVs....The Japs inventing this one?

even Canada had invented in major developments of UAV


    
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May 17 2004, 4:11 AM 

No, it is just how they word it. if i said fanatical suicidal UCAV would you think it was middle-eastern? i think yes.

What achievements have canada made in this area?


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Youre lucky we cant afford the real planes...

 
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May 17 2004, 5:38 PM 

Sorry i had meant to type Canada has invested in UAVs as well. They are leasing them off the states and using them on trials to see how effective they really are.. mostly in Afganhistan

 
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May 18 2004, 9:31 AM 

how much are they per unti? what type? predator?


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May 18 2004, 4:03 PM 

They are Recoinnaissance...not sure just saw the artivle in one of the Canadian Military newspapers. Just a quick look at the mess hall.

 
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May 19 2004, 7:47 AM 

canada is taking steps forward then. i think it is better to use them for reconaissance. if they are shot down it is less to lose.

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May 19 2004, 5:40 PM 

This is new UAV

05/07/2004
Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI) has developed a new, long range unmanned aerial vehicle system called Eitan that will redefine UAVs in the Israeli Air Force. The UAV is much more like an advanced fighter than other UAVs in the Israeli inventory and boasts an advanced avionics package that allows the vehicle to conduct operations in adverse weather conditions and takeoff and land without assistance from ground operators. The vehicle spans over 80 feet and is powered by a turboprop engine. Due to the large quantity of internal fuel, the twin-tailed UAV will be the largest, highest flying, longest endurance UAV operated by the Israeli Air Force. Currently, two prototypes are in advanced stages of development. The vehicle is considered multi-purpose, able to accommodate a targeting and attack system that can locate and destroy mobile ground targets.




 
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May 20 2004, 4:14 AM 

like a bomber, israel do have lots of new stuff i guess though...

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