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Saudi Arabia Stability

May 31 2004 at 10:50 AM
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I think terror attacks like we saw this week will be much more common in the
future.

What will be the impact on the regime?
What will be the impact on the oil price and on the export of oil?
(remember that although the west need the oil , SA need the mony)

How the fallen of the SA kingdom will impact on the small countries
in the persian gulf (Kuwait, Bahrain ...)?

How it will impact on the life of the Saudi people(most of them live
in very good condition)?




 
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May 31 2004, 12:32 PM 

Well here in Germany we also hear about the threat of a taleban style regime in Saudi Arabia.


What will be the impact on the regime?
current royal regime will get under pressure by US more strongly- stop funding islamistic "welfare" organizations spreading wahabi islam

in the former german capital Bonn there is a King Fahd academy

http://www.kingfahdbinabdulaziz.com/main/m104.htm

they are also teaching hate against western culture here in Germany!! but now a discussion is beginning whether this academy must be closed- I expect it not to happen in near future but maybe in 10 or 15 years when more terrorism has hit the world

What will be the impact on the oil price and on the export of oil?
(remember that although the west need the oil , SA need the mony)

oil price will rise of course but Europe is more and more relying on Russia, Algeria- now with Lybia the relations have been normalized as well after Gdaffi pays for the lockerbie victims

I think US is more relying on Saudi Arabia than EU

The money in S.A. is only bringing benefit to a relatively small group of people- the royal family and those who support it.

I heard there are also many poor people in SA- those can be easily recruited as terrorists


How the fallen of the SA kingdom will impact on the small countries
in the persian gulf (Kuwait, Bahrain ...)?

I think these countries will face struggle as well

but somehow I think that Saudi Arabia kingdom still will exist- I mean I really don´t expect a fall in next one year
but making predictions is always very very difficut
many facts may influence especially whether the US will defend and keep on supporting the Kingdom or whether the US is looking for new partners- we will see


How it will impact on the life of the Saudi people(most of them live
in very good condition)?

As I say not all live in those good condition we always are being made to believe

Did you hear Saudi Arabia is paying journalists money if they write positive about the country_ if this happens systematically over years you might begin to believe that everything is shining in the kingdom


but in terms of more draconic punishment they don´t have to fear much- right now they have introduced the Sharia

anyway the wealth of the people is much related to the oil. If they don´t sell their oil they economy will be hurt- the people will face serious problems

If the US says " if you don´t sell your oil to us we will destroy your oil producing industry" with some air strikes the country is really in a very bad situation

I wonder whether a famine could break out- most of the country is desert now there live 23 million people in the desert- how many can really live from the food being grown in the country?




"Es wird niemals so viel gelogen wie vor der Wahl, während des Krieges und nach der Jagd." Otto von Bismarck


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May 31 2004, 7:03 PM 

SA is the origin of the wahabi islam, it export it to all muslim communities
all over the world(with the exception of Shiites muslim).
The wahabi is extreme interpretation of the Islam, SA spread it by special schools(dont remember thier name),where students learn only religious studies.
Muslims from the communities are send to SA , they learn Islamic studies(the wahabi version of Islam) and go back to thier communities.
In that way is spread all over the world.

The situation U describe in Germany is not unique, it is true also in Israel,
i am not talking about the palestinians, i am talking about muslim citizens in Israel, it is ture even for thier representative in the Knesset.

I think that the continuation of the attack in SA will bring to the end of
the current regime.
The SA regime is not liked (in fact lots of people are hate it).
In the future, it is only matter of time, the attacks will hit the oil infrastructures and then U can said Good Bye to the regime.

I also think that the oil price will raise, even dramatically.
In the long term it will be positive- the world will develop clean ways to produce electricity.

It will also make SA very poor country , the birth rate in SA is huge and
after the collapse of the current regime it is hard to see how the next regime will face the problems.

I think the gulf state will suffer as well , witout the help of the Americans
thier regimes will collapse as well.















    
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May 31 2004, 7:06 PM 

I don't care what happens in S.Arabia.

They have about 200 billion barrels oil or more. That's important. No matter what kind of regime they have, they want to sell oil, to anyone who pays, that's all.

At most it will be a regime change, but this does not affect Normal People's Life, that's all.






 
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May 31 2004, 7:16 PM 

I dont think so,
i have doubt if they will continue to sell oil to the americans.
And no doubt the SA people will suffer from this.
Such scenario could be very dangerous since SA has the holiest place of Islam.




 
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May 31 2004, 7:20 PM 

I dont think so, i have doubt if they will continue to sell oil to the americans.

If they don't sell to amecians, my best, Chinese will buy for sure.

And no doubt the SA people will suffer from this. Such scenario could be very dangerous since SA has the holiest place of Islam.

suffer, of course, but not in the way you may think, like they are going to kill every saudi citizen.


OIL, we need oil, desperately, we are going to import 200 million tons oil this year.







 
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May 31 2004, 7:37 PM 

But Dan, do you have good Oil Drilling Tech in Israel, if well, maybe we can do some big bussiness, China found about 50 billion Ton OilGas reserves in Chinese offshore waters, if we can drill them up with efficiency, that means big bucks of money, for hundred years.








 
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June 2 2004, 12:23 AM 

and When Oil Runs out... Where is everyone going to run to then?

 
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June 2 2004, 3:47 AM 

hydrogen based fuels of course.

 
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June 2 2004, 5:49 AM 

And nuclear. when that runs out, population will die off ntil we can substain ourselves and then ~~

.....My View.....

 
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June 2 2004, 12:25 PM 

I also think that China will buy much more oil in the future.

This may be the deeper reason for the trouble in the Middle East.

USA and China want to have regimes there which sell them as much oil as possible for the cheapest price.


But as USA is in control today, China can always present itself as "fair" and "friendly" partner to the arabs.

Really a difficult situation for the US.



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