Just heard. Its a sad day, he was a great leader, and a great man. RIP
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"Now, while still pursuing the method of realising our overall strategic concept, I come to the crux of what I have travelled here to say. Neither the sure prevention of war, nor the continuous rise of world organisation will be gained without what I have called the fraternal association of the English-speaking peoples. This means a special relationship between the British Commonwealth and Empire and the United States. Thus, whatever happens, and thus only, shall we be secure ourselves and able to work together for the high and simple causes that are dear to us and bode no ill to any. Eventually there may come—I feel eventually there will come—the principle of common citizenship, but that we may be content to leave to destiny, whose outstretched arm many of us can already clearly see.
Winston Churchill
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considered by many to be one of the greatest president's in American history and the man who won the cold war. Extremely sad day for so many Americans. A beloved and strong leader who gained credibility and respect again for America after the embarrassing administration of carter. Upon his inaguration, iran immediately released 52 hostages . He outspent the strongest military in the World (ussr) and forced them to abandon the arms race and later their empire. A beloved man indeed and America will be in mourning for many days to come with an outpouring of affection for this great man. he often was fond of saying, 'it's morning in America.' due to his death, it's mourning in America. ___________________________________________ visit the awesome website that promotes my forum! http://www.global-military.com/phpx/index.php
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Yes,very well said,great man,great leader I agree and The Oscar for the win of the cold war like first and principal actor go to him and AMERICA.Thanks Mr.Ronald Reagan and thanks AMERICA!Condolences to all.
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Indeed great man and great president.
He is the reason for the end of the cold war, his tough policy toward SSR enfoce the Soviet Union the end the arm race.
He olso was one of the great friend Israel have in the White House.
R.I.P.
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He was a great president. Of course, some bastard had to shoot him, and then he had to get Alzheimers. I'm not saying anything against him, but I'm sort of glad he's dead. He doesn't have to suffer anymore.
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Reagan was a good friend of Israel. And not because he rolled over for them like the last couple of occupants of the White House did (do). He was a friend who wasn't afraid to tell Israel when they were in the wrong. Which he did on occasion. Nevertheless, he tried hard to understand Begin and why he was the unwavering Israeli leader that he was. Those are the kind of friends you want to have, not yes-men.
I don't think anyone except an American can appreciate what Ronald Reagan did for this nation. I know in europe he is demonized, but they haven't got a clue what he accomplished for this country.
When Reagan came to office, America was in a nation totally lacking in confidence. The Vietnam war, the resignation of Nixon and the Carter malaise had sapped American resolve. The long Iran hostage crisis made us wonder if America had lost it's respect. In many ways, it had.
Almost overnight Reagan turned things around. No, he didn't solve all our financial ills-he couldn't with an overwhelming Democrat congress spending with no discipline. But he had American's believing in themselves again. The 1980's demonstrated a new found confidence in our economic system and in America's vision for a world without constant tension between east and west.
Only Reagan could make peace with the Russians-Carter was totally disrespected by the Russian leaders, but a strong President like Reagan was someone they could understand-and work with. Gorbachev and Reagan were in many ways alike-and they liked each other. I don't think it's an exagerration saying Reagan caused the iron curtain to fall.
Reagan was no mere facade. When he came back from Rekyavik, having failed to secure a SALT treaty with the Russians the American people knew that he'd tried as best he could-without putting America (and the west) at risk. His fortitude in walking away from an unacceptable agreement ended up turning the tide in the east/west dispute.
I could go on, but I think you understand what I'm getting at. It's up to history to judge our leaders, but I think Reagan will go down as one of our great ones.
America has lost a titan tonight. Ronald Reagan, rest in peace.
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"Now, while still pursuing the method of realising our overall strategic concept, I come to the crux of what I have travelled here to say. Neither the sure prevention of war, nor the continuous rise of world organisation will be gained without what I have called the fraternal association of the English-speaking peoples. This means a special relationship between the British Commonwealth and Empire and the United States. Thus, whatever happens, and thus only, shall we be secure ourselves and able to work together for the high and simple causes that are dear to us and bode no ill to any. Eventually there may come—I feel eventually there will come—the principle of common citizenship, but that we may be content to leave to destiny, whose outstretched arm many of us can already clearly see.
Winston Churchill
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Indeed Reagon was a great President. He was also one of my personel favourites among US Presidents.
But I think his dead has also a good side. Now he has not to suffer anymore from this terrible Alzheimer disease. Just imagine you don´t regonize your family members anymore and you become very strange.
Better we keep him as a vivid president in memory than as a ill old man.
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From the Chinese perspective Reagan was also a great president. The USA was, believe it or not, an ally of China during his presidency and he did a lot to help China pick up the ashes from the "Cultural Revolution" and "Gang of Four" years. Not only did Reagan allow weapon sales (e.g. AIM-7 Sparrow, Mk48 torpedoes, jet engines, etc.) and technology transfers to help modernise the PLA, he also greatly expanded trade which helped China modernise its economy. By working with, and treating Deng Xiaoping with respect, Reagan was able to win back much of the credibility in Asia that was lost during Vietnam.
While he did do some bad things in the Americas (e.g. invading Grenada,) all in all he was a great president. May he RIP.
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very nice remarks by all and I never knew the chinese felt positively about reagan. landos after I conveyed my thoughts in this thread I thought of you and wondered what you might say had you chose to post. I remember you posting about reagan in luny's forum and as always I was impressed with how articulate you were (and are). I consider you to be very independent politically and I admire that. Do you remeber reagan (this fact came out after his presidency) chewing menachem begin a new azz over the shelling of beruit during the 82 israeli invasion? bud mcfarland said it was a rare moment of reagan anger and he told him, "if you don't suspend operations in beruit immediately and stop this sensless killing we will re-evaluate the relations our nations share." the only other leader reagan ever displayed anger toward was pierrre trudeau of canada. very nice post landos thank you. I know some members probably don't share positive feelings toward reagan and as always all views are by all means welcomed here.
Yea Reagan olso criticize Israel, so what?
He condemn Israel attack on Iraq (the reactor) and delay the f-16 deal in 1981 .
I assume most of U will admit he was wrong.
Still he got 40% of the Jewish vote, unprecedented number for Republican candidate (usually 80% from the Jewish vote for the Democrate and only 20% to the Republican).
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I didn't mean for my post to sound anti-israel. I was responding to landos' post where he mentioned menachem begin and I remembered hearing about the exchange between the two leaders. The World is a better place imo because of the raid on the iraqi reactor. the iranians, as well as everyone else is grateful for the destruction of saddams reactor and looking back, criticism of that raid by America was out of line.
I also admire Putin for many of the same reasons I admire Reagan. But we'll save that discussion for another time. I have to get ready for a business trip down to ole Mexico and that means getting up at 4:00 am tomorrow to catch my flight. Everyone have a great week and we'll "talk" to you again next Friday.
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