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is arafat a terrorist or statesmen?

June 6 2004 at 1:41 PM
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is yasser arafat a terrorist or is he accepted by the World community as a leader?

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June 6 2004, 2:15 PM 

I would say he was a terrorist but now has support by his people and they have created him as a leader....still needs to be killed.

 
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June 6 2004, 3:25 PM 

He is a terrorist, and a stetesman, just as Ariel Sharone, both should be shot, I wonder how many innocent people have died for both of these pricks.







 
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June 6 2004, 3:41 PM 

entirely agree Polizei.

United We Stand.



"Now, while still pursuing the method of realising our overall strategic concept, I come to the crux of what I have travelled here to say. Neither the sure prevention of war, nor the continuous rise of world organisation will be gained without what I have called the fraternal association of the English-speaking peoples. This means a special relationship between the British Commonwealth and Empire and the United States. Thus, whatever happens, and thus only, shall we be secure ourselves and able to work together for the high and simple causes that are dear to us and bode no ill to any. Eventually there may come—I feel eventually there will come—the principle of common citizenship, but that we may be content to leave to destiny, whose outstretched arm many of us can already clearly see.

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June 6 2004, 3:42 PM 

I consider him a leader,

many have fought for their coutries and have been considered heroes...he has been done for Palestine .....



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June 6 2004, 3:49 PM 

Nine terrorist nine statesmen;only a old stupid followed by olds and news retards more stupids.

 
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June 6 2004, 4:31 PM 

he is a terrorist.

but on the other hand many big leaders in history were considered terrorists by their enemies.

For me he will always be a terrorist.
But for his followers he is a big statesman.

It is simply on which side you are.



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June 6 2004, 5:59 PM 

He is a Freedom fighter and a Stateman.






 
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June 6 2004, 6:25 PM 

""He is a Freedom fighter and a Stateman.""


If he only fought those that were responsible for their suffering, then he could be considered a freedom fighter, but he is also responsible for dead children, that makes him an official terrorist, in my books, he is a piece of garbage.







 
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June 6 2004, 7:40 PM 

I don't have any time for Arafat, but he must be seen in the
context of the Israeli oppression. there are times that you have to
sink to low depth to be able to achieve a noble aim, and Arafat
has had to sink to low depths many times, but only because he
had no other options in fighting the invaders. One the other hand,
Sharan has sunk to much lower depths and has much more blood on his hands
than Arafat, and Sharon has had allot more options open to him, yet
he has always chosen the option that has led to the maximum bloodshed and
loos of civilians.In comparison, Sharon is a far bigger terrorist than
Arafat will ever be!


THE WORLD IS A BRIDGE, CROSS IT, BUT BUILD NO HOUSE UPON IT!

“IS THERE LIFE AFTER DEATH? ... TRESSPASS HERE AND FIND OUT”






CIA agent Geoffrey Kemp talking about Saddam Hussein:

“WE KNEW HE WAS A SON OF A BITCH, BUT HE WAS OUR SON OF A BITCH”

My most favoured Anti terror Model is the one
deployed by my most revered anti terrorist group... the Hezbollah!
I most admire their methods in getting rid of the terrorist Jews
in Lebanon, this task was successful carried out, even though the
terrorist Jews had superiority in numbers and weapons, but the good
people of Hezbollah were more intelligent, were brave, and had god
on their side, and thus were able to smite the Jewish terrorist murderers
against all odds!

 
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June 6 2004, 8:58 PM 

@ Hadi
Totally agree with you, Sharon has allot more options at his disposal, and that is why he is a even bigger piece of garbage, not by much, but he is scum, and deserves the same treatment he dishes out.







 
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June 6 2004, 10:03 PM 

"One the other hand,
Sharan has sunk to much lower depths and has much more blood on his hands
than Arafat,"

Yes... but the blood on Arafat's hands is that of school children, pregnant mothers, diners at cafes, guests of hotels, and riders on buses.

If the Palestinians didn't target civilians, I would have more sympathy for them.

The Israelis are brutal, and their occupation is wrong... but at least they make some kind of effort not to target innocents.

United We Stand.



"Now, while still pursuing the method of realising our overall strategic concept, I come to the crux of what I have travelled here to say. Neither the sure prevention of war, nor the continuous rise of world organisation will be gained without what I have called the fraternal association of the English-speaking peoples. This means a special relationship between the British Commonwealth and Empire and the United States. Thus, whatever happens, and thus only, shall we be secure ourselves and able to work together for the high and simple causes that are dear to us and bode no ill to any. Eventually there may come—I feel eventually there will come—the principle of common citizenship, but that we may be content to leave to destiny, whose outstretched arm many of us can already clearly see.

Winston Churchill

 
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June 6 2004, 11:59 PM 

""The Israelis are brutal, and their occupation is wrong... but at least they make some kind of effort not to target innocents.""



Well, I would say the reason they don't deliberately target civilians is because of the cameras, but when no camera is around, well I'm sure you have heard of all those head shots by snipers on children.
I see no difference between the Israelis and the Palestinians, none what so ever.








 
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June 7 2004, 6:51 PM 

"Yes... but the blood on Arafat's hands is that of school children, pregnant mothers, diners at cafes, guests of hotels, and riders on buses.

If the Palestinians didn't target civilians, I would have more sympathy for them.

The Israelis are brutal, and their occupation is wrong... but at least they make some kind of effort not to target innocents."


Well, if you drop a 2000 lb bomb in a populated area, just to try to kill
one "terrorist", knowing full well that 20 innocent civilians are going to die, isn't that targeting civilians?
We can just look at the numbers and see for our selves, for every one Israelis civilian killed, there has bee four Palestinian civilians killed.

Also, Polizi is right, the Israelis generally do their massacring away from the cameras, and only very rarely do the news of their massacres ever come out, one of the few times that this news was shown to the world was when 3,000 civilians were killed by Sharon in Lebanon in the Sabra and Chatila massacres.


THE WORLD IS A BRIDGE, CROSS IT, BUT BUILD NO HOUSE UPON IT!

“IS THERE LIFE AFTER DEATH? ... TRESSPASS HERE AND FIND OUT”






CIA agent Geoffrey Kemp talking about Saddam Hussein:

“WE KNEW HE WAS A SON OF A BITCH, BUT HE WAS OUR SON OF A BITCH”

My most favoured Anti terror Model is the one
deployed by my most revered anti terrorist group... the Hezbollah!
I most admire their methods in getting rid of the terrorist Jews
in Lebanon, this task was successful carried out, even though the
terrorist Jews had superiority in numbers and weapons, but the good
people of Hezbollah were more intelligent, were brave, and had god
on their side, and thus were able to smite the Jewish terrorist murderers
against all odds!

 
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June 8 2004, 9:55 AM 

It is only matter of time!!!






 
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I agree with Polizei.

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June 10 2004, 11:33 AM 

Arafat is a prick, but Sharon is a bigger prick. Arafat can only do so much damage because he is weak. Sharon can wreak havoc because he has the US (brainless Bush) standing behind him.

E Tan, E Epi Tas!

 
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June 10 2004, 3:03 PM 

""It is only matter of time!!!""



Your right Dan, it will only a matter of time before the entire world will be fed up with people like you, and your country's bull-****.
In order for your country to defend it self, or conquer other land, you need money to buy hardware, and since your country is nothing but a begging, underhanded, lying, cheating welfare state, it ain't going to happen.
You are greedy, selfish, and most of all, stupid if you think for one moment that the rest of us don't know your lies.
Now run, and cry about how anti-semetic I am.







 
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June 10 2004, 3:43 PM 

hollyshiiit, POLIZEI has been always what he has been.

This is well a compliment to POLIZEI, this guys believe in what he believes.






 
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June 11 2004, 3:00 AM 

a matter of time.....

i just dont see Israel in few decades as being part of the middle east's maps.



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June 11 2004, 10:22 AM 

What would happen if some Israeli leader attempts to merge with Palestine through peaceful means and accept being a multi-cultural state?  In theory at least, this could satisfy both Zionist dreams of gaining control of what they see as traditional terrirories, and Palestinian demands to have control over its territory.  If any Israeli or Palestinian leaders proposed this, would he/she be killed?

 
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June 11 2004, 11:56 AM 

@ Diunei Lingyen
Well, if they did manage to merge, the world would be alot more peaceful, but it won't, the problem is that the Israel is a racist society.
Yes there are good Israelis, but they are outnumberd by the not so good natured ones.







 
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What's really scarey is

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June 13 2004, 9:59 PM 

you read about all these right-wing Rabbi's telling Israelis that killing non-Jews is acceptable if it serve's Israel's policies because a "Goyim's" life is not worth as much as a Jew. Man, thats just NAZI stuff! Haven't they learned ANYTHING with their own history?!

Thats why I tell our Israeli friends that NOBODY is entitled to special exemptions from world standards of behavior. We all behave according to the same rules-or we should. State sponsored assasination squads, bombing of civilian areas, blowing up the houses of suspected terrorists families and group punishment for incidents is totally against the rules of civilized behavior. I'm sorry to say the the USA has broken some of those rules on occasion over the last couple of decades-to our eternal shame as a nation.

E Tan, E Epi Tas!

 
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