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Israel develops cruise missile (funded by China.)

June 10 2004 at 12:25 PM
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Diunei Lingyen  (Login Diunei)

 

Janes: Israel acquires its first cruise missile
By DOUGLAS DAVIS

LONDON

Israel has achieved a major military breakthrough by acquiring its first surface-to-surface cruise missile, according to an exclusive report to be published by the London-based Jane's Defense Weekly.

Sources in London told The Jerusalem Post that Washington has twice refused to sell Israel its Tomahawk land-attack cruise missiles.

But the June 16 issue of Jane's Defense Weekly will reveal that Israel has overcome the obstacle by modifying its own air-launched Delilah missile to enable it to be launched from the ground.

The journal quoted defense sources as saying that the range of the ground-launched Delilah is "well beyond 300km," and that an additional boost engine has been the key to making the adaptation possible.

The missile is reported to be highly sophisticated. It is said to be able to "loiter" over a target area before engaging targets with a choice of 30kg warheads.

The missile, which can use a variety of infrared and electro-optic systems to pinpoint enemies up to 16km away, is capable of selecting its own targets. In addition, it can be used as an unmanned reconnaissance vehicle.

Originally developed as an aerial decoy, the Delilah evolved into a
modular air-strike weapon deployed since the 1990s with Israel's F-16D multi-role fighter aircraft and upgraded F-4E-2000 Kurnass attack aircraft.

The journal notes that in addition to converting the Delilah, other reports suggest that Israel is exploring the possibility of converting Rafael's AGM-142 Popeye III as well as the Gabriel 3 anti-ship weapon into land-attack missiles, each with a range of up to 300km.

It also quotes unconfirmed reports suggesting that Israel Aircraft Industries is developing a longer-range cruise missile that could be deployed from the Israel Navy's Dolphin-class submarines.

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In 1995, Flight International reported that China was providing funding to Israel for development of an air-launched cruise missile based on the Israeli Delilah anti-radiation attack drone. The report noted that China also would be a customer for the new cruise missile. The basic Delilah is a 230-mile range drone which has benefited from U.S. technology in airframe design and in its small U.S.-designed Williams J400-WR-401 engine. This missile has an accuracy of 300 feet.

The new missile (Delilah 2) reportedly will be larger than the Delilah but will retain its basic configuration. It is not clear whether the larger size will allow for both a longer range and a larger payload, or just the latter. This might be provided in the recently revealed Bet Shemesh Sorek 4, which produces 800 pounds of thrust. If and when acquired, this new version of the Delilah would give the PLA a much more useful and accurate cruise missile. It also would provide advanced cruise missile technology in the areas of design, engines, fuel, and guidance.

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/missile_systems/air_missiles/delilah/Delilah.html

http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/missile_systems/air_missiles/delilah2/Delilah2.html



    
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June 11 2004, 9:52 AM 

As this is a good development for Israel, this question arises: are China and Israel becoming much closer?  Furthermore, if indeed China becomes that much closer to Israel, will this invite more terrorism against China?

 
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June 11 2004, 10:46 AM 

Yes, they are becoming close friends. However, Israel still backs away from China when USA intervenes. Like the Phalcon radar system and the refuelling dreones, they were aproved and later compensated by Israel.

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June 12 2004, 9:27 AM 

More competition against Russia is good in order to keep Russia on its toes and force them to offer better terms.  Israel also produces high quality systems, so China gets its money's worth.

 
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June 12 2004, 11:35 AM 

Why buy crap from Israel, when your old buddy Iran is making better
land attack cruise missiles:



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June 12 2004, 1:08 PM 

Somehow, i think Iran developed those frm china so we will not be going anywhere. secondly, most our systems russian. you copy us, probably russian too. Russian hell for mainatenance and replacemtent, american (israeli made) can get spare aprts and more reliable.

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June 12 2004, 2:52 PM 

"As this is a good development for Israel, this question arises: are
China and Israel becoming much closer? "


Dont think it is really change something.
Israel have interest to sell and China have interest to buy.
Both side enjoy.

"Furthermore, if indeed China becomes that much closer to Israel, will
this invite more terrorism against China?"


Didnt know China suffering today from muslim terror,
And i dont think they will increase/start attacking China,
The muslim interpret the "democratic west" as weakness ,dont think they
think the same way about China.
Western moral restraints is one of the major reasons for the Islamic terror.

@Tom
Somehow, i think Iran developed those frm china so we will not be going
anywhere. secondly, most our systems russian. you copy us, probably russian
too. Russian hell for mainatenance and replacemtent, american (israeli
made) can get spare aprts and more reliable.


I disagree with U, Iran is more advanced country then lots of western
country.
For example, Iran is much more advanced then Britannia ,Germany and even
French.







 
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June 12 2004, 5:06 PM 

Didnt know China suffering today from muslim terror, And i dont think they will increase/start attacking China, The muslim interpret the "democratic west" as weakness ,dont think they think the same way about China. Western moral restraints is one of the major reasons for the Islamic terror.

China's northwest Xinjiang province has had problems with jihadists in the past; during the early 1990s they set of a few bus bombs in Beijing.  That was stopped when Chinese police soaked their bullets in pig oil and used those bullets to execute them. 

Uighurs, a Moslem minority from Xinjiang, have been caught by US forces in Afghanistan and Russian forces in Chechnya, which shows they have links with al-Qaeda.  There have also been rumours that radical Moslems were the ones responsable for the recent killing of Chinese engineers in Pakistan.  Pak jihadists oppose Musharraf and Chinese support of him.





    
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June 12 2004, 5:10 PM 

Why buy crap from Israel, when your old buddy Iran is making better land attack cruise missiles

China and Iran already have pretty extensive cooperation.  Iran is apparently interested in the FC-1 and China may transfer the necessary technologies.  And I am in favour of even more cooperation. 

As for the Iranian cruise missiles, I don't know about their performance but if they can perform as well or better than Tomahawks then I don't see any reason why China shouldn't buy Iranian.


 
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June 12 2004, 7:49 PM 

Why buy crap from Israel, when your old buddy Iran is making better land attack cruise missiles

Probably because of the expensive of Iranian attack cruise missiles.
If Iran will reduce the price I am sure China will buy those missiles.






 
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June 13 2004, 11:09 AM 

Do you have any other info on Delilah 2?  Can it be fired from ships and land as well?  Are there any Hebrew-language sources that discuss its range?

 
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June 13 2004, 6:03 PM 

There is no even one serious site in Hebrew about Israeli weapons.
The Israeli-weapons is the best site i know.

Basically the new in that missiles is that it can be fire from the ground.
I read in this site (the Israeli-weapons) that it can be fire from sea and helicopter.

I olso read that IMI is waiting for the permission of the US Gov ,for buying
painting method that will make those missiles stealth.






 
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June 14 2004, 5:36 AM 

"I disagree with U, Iran is more advanced country then lots of western
country.
For example, Iran is much more advanced then Britannia ,Germany and even
French."

Dan can you explain this, please.

Iran has maybe a younger population and a big size and maybe more minerals but I think their weapons are not as good as european ones.




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June 14 2004, 5:52 AM 

Dan can you explain this, please.

Iran has maybe a younger population and a big size and maybe more minerals but I think their weapons are not as good as european ones.


I dont really think Iran is more advanced then those countries.
I have Iranian "friend" who study laws in Britannia and he told, me more then once, that Iran produce more advanced weapons.
I only quoted him.

I personally think that Iran weapons is only better from the weapons Sudan produce.





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