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October 2 2004 at 10:19 PM
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consider this hypothetical situation, suppose Georgia sent troops to retake the seperatist province of south Ossetia and Russia went to war with Gerogia.

How long would it take for Russia to destroy the Georgian Army ?

how would the EU and the US react to such move ? Would they confront Russia directly ? in that case, how do you think Russia would react ?


    
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October 2 2004, 10:38 PM 

1 day.

 
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October 3 2004, 7:50 AM 

2 days maximal. After that just some "terroristic attacks" left over.

USA can do nothing.



 
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October 3 2004, 9:00 AM 

Georgians are tough people, and Russia is not what it usd to be. Look at how much trouble they are having with little Checheniya. Georgia will be a thousand times worse, and of couse the U.S will give them allot of help, just like they did to the Mojahedin in Afghanistan. Russia just doesn't have the power to invade Georgia.



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October 3 2004, 9:16 AM 

It has nothing to do you are tough or not. It is about conquering of the main cities.

Georgia is too small, with a population of only 4 million, how can you hold your cities when you don't have any troops nor weapons.

2 days is well enough for russians to occupy the main cities, left is gurrelia war, that would last long, since usa will supply their RPG's etc, just like Iraq now, a mess for russians.

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October 3 2004, 4:48 PM 

Exactly. Georgia is not Chechnya, Chechens had plenty of weapons to fight off the Russians. There are 10 percent Armenians in Georgia, along with 15percent of other races. only 75percent are Georgians. Georgia has no armed forces, no tanks, no apcs, hardly enough rounds...it is easier than Chechnya, but there will be rebels and revolts...naturally..

 
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Hypothetical debate. Georgia and Russia will not fight.

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October 3 2004, 5:19 PM 

They're both Orthodox Christian nations. They have their political differences, but it won't come down to armed conflict. We're they Msslem, like the Chechens, it might be different.

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October 3 2004, 6:11 PM 

Religion has nothing to do with this. The fact is, if Russia has an imperial urge, it will satisfy itself by taking out Georgia.

 
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October 3 2004, 10:23 PM 

Georgia is in a strategic location and when it is run by US puppets it has to be taken seriously...If Russia doesnt do anything about its former provinces then we will witness Russia breaking down into an even smaller state.

Georgia must be under Russian influence otherwise it'll evolve into a much bigger disaster...Russia should refrain from attacking Georgia directly...the most suitable solution is to arm Ossetia rebels and exhaust their energy..

the US will back off...if not today she will in the future...this is the point where the US cant go any further..the United states will face horrible eventualities if she attempts to do so.

 
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October 4 2004, 1:34 AM 

Good point. Because the US is 16.000 miles away and russia just on the otherside of the border, influence is greater.

 
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October 4 2004, 5:55 AM 

Georgia's armed forces are actually not is such a bad mess, don't forget that Georgia used to produce the SU-25 close air support jets, and I know that it has a number of soviet origin helicopter gunships, that will be very useful in the right conditions.
You should also not forget that Turkey, Russia's historic enemy is just next door, and will help the Georgians out, as well as become a base for U.S supplies to the Georgians. Another very curtail point that shouldn't be over looked is the fact that the U.S has invested very heavily to transfer the Caspian Oil reserves through Georgia, (even though the Iran root was allot more cheaper, safer and logical)! The U.S will not like it one single bit if its strategic oil pipeline is threatened, and might eventually be forces to confront the Russians directly, as was the case in the Korean war.
Also, the Russians are in no position to fight another country, with their armed forces being reduced to nothing more than a sad joke.
Russia knows that it doesn't have the power to do any thing to Georgia and that any intervention will cost it dearly, and rightly so, the Russians should stop acting so savagely, and in an imperialistic manner that they have been acting in the past 250 years. A United and powerful Russian is much more of a danger to world peace and stability (specially a danger to its neighbours), and its own citizens, than any other country in the world, including the United States!




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October 4 2004, 7:51 AM 

Don't forget that Georgia is a matter of survival for Russia precisely because it is right next door.  The USA can afford to play around, Russia cannot.  And we all know how well Russia can mobilise when its survival is at stake.  (Hint: Stalingrad.)

 
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October 4 2004, 9:26 AM 

yeah...If Russia collapses today then the Balance of power will be in favor of the US..something Iran should worry about..The only reason the US is not messing around with Iran is that she is bogged down in Iraq and other locations on earth...the moment the security establishes in Iraq, The US will initiate its anti-Iran agenda...that is to say the arming and training of :

1.Azeris through northern Azerbaijan.(If Russia collapses Armenia will become a US puppet).
2.Arabs through Saudi arabia and Iraq...
3.Kurds through Iraqi kurds
4.Baluchis through Pakistan.

if not in this decade or the next couple of decades..the US will eventualy do so.

This is what happened to Iraq if you look back to Iraq's early 90s era.

then the US will establish a no-fly zone on these areas...then come the oil-sanctions...when there is enough supplies there is no excuse not to sanction Iran. when Iran is completely surrounded and weakened then come the bombings of military installations and trust me...there is nothing Iran can do...

Yes.right now Iran can inflict harm on the US and fight back..but not when its people are starving and the economy is in a bad shape.

you should put aside your feelings of bravery and heroism and face the realities in the world...the US can be dealt with only when Iran, Russia, India Pakistan and the islamic grouplets stick together..otherwise it is impossible..

The Islamic revoloution in Iran in reality was a socialist revoloution...If there were no Fedayee, Tudeh, Mujahed and nationalists then no revolt would have taken place.in fact, You should be thankful to Russia for giving you independence.

there is another possibility though...that is to say, Iran's clerics become an ally of the United states and ensure the security of the oil and other matters in the region. in that case yeah the US wont front Iran.

 
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Re: Georgia

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October 4 2004, 6:38 PM 

yup...Armenia is the russian puppet, Gerogia and Azeriland are US puppets.

 
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