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When will it end?

October 29 2004 at 8:51 AM
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When do you think the Arab Israeli conflict will end?


    
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Re: When will it end?

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October 29 2004, 9:37 AM 

never



 
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Landos
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When Israelis start treating

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October 29 2004, 10:39 AM 

Palestinians as fellow human beings, instead of targets. When they remove themselves from land expropriated from the Palestinian people.

Frankly, given the leadership on the Israeli side, I'm not optimistic.

E Tan, E Epi Tas!

 
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dan
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October 30 2004, 12:26 PM 

It will end, i have no doubt about it.
In the short term (few years) , we and the palestinians will sign
"peace agreement"- the land will divided it that way or other.

Of course this "peace agreement" will not end hostility, terror attacks will
continue.

In the long term, after Israel PPL will growth and after the war on terror
wiil be more intensive, Israel will have to remove the palestinians to Jordan.

There is an important point that people have to take in to account- both PPL,
Israelis and palestinians will be more and more radical in the future.

While Israel PPL and territory will be big enough it also will be the end of
the conflict.

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Turtle
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October 30 2004, 1:20 PM 

oh yes, signing agreements does a lot of good, hey! Wasnt an agreement signed btwn Soviet Union and Nazi Germany? Yes, how did that end? a long brutal war that ended up kiling 30-40mln people i believe.

Peace agreements are pieces of paper, and when you sign contracts with non europeans, that is as good as toilet paper.

As long as there are Jews and Arabs living side by side, it will never end.

 
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Landos
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Israel move Pali people to Jordan?

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October 30 2004, 9:46 PM 

As in ethnic cleansing? That will never happen. Israel has a lot of leeway with the United States, because American Jews are active supporters for that nation. But if you lose their support, you can forget any US support. And you will lose their support if you act like Nazi's. Israel has already lost a lot of American Jewish support with it's appalling behavior towards the Palestinians.

Israel is winning the battle, but losing the war. Your image in the world has taken a massive nosedive the last 2 decades. You don't think that matters? It does. Trust me. The heat Israel takes in this forum is just a microcosm of the hostility many folks around the world feel for you. You're regarded as beligerant, unethical and self-serving. Traits you've earned with your policies, I might add.

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Manthor
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October 31 2004, 12:09 AM 

It will continue even after I am dead.

Does the path choose the walker or the walker the path?

 
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Anonymous
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October 31 2004, 2:12 AM 

glad to see a greek (landos) showing his anti-zionist policies. Something another forum's members lack.


    
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shocktrooper
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October 31 2004, 7:03 AM 

landos, what do you greeks know about modern conflict?
Nothing!
and what do you know about whats really going on in Israel?
Nothing!
You greeks are pro-arabs, thats why your so anti-Israel.
And before you call other people nazis, take a good look at your self.
There are so many neo-nazis in greece and europe.

Hayq, how can you say that you have jews if you never met them personally, if you never got to speak to them?
I also used to think that all muslims are bad, but now I don't think so, one of my friends is a muslim.
So before you say that all jews are bad, try to get your self a jewish friend.
I am sure that there are jews living in Armenia (or where ever your from).
I am not anti-muslims, but I am anti-arabs.

 
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Anonymous
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October 31 2004, 7:26 AM 

Ha Ha Ha Ha.

I am not anti muslim just anti arabs.

The Jew swiming in the blood of its victims looks up to the sky and asks Lord why do they persecute me so?


FACTS ABOUT THE ISRAELI/ARAB CONFLICT


There is no Ancient hatred between the two.

From Time Immorial on Jews Have Lived alongside Arabs..

Al-Andalusia (Moorish spain) was conqured with Jewish Aid.
5,000 Muslim soldiers united with the Iberian Jewish Population.

The Jewish Torah records
That Dedan (the sons of Ismail)
and Temah who Brings water to those who are thirsty.

The golden age of jewish writting took place under muslim rule.

The Talmud was written in baghdad.
The Kaballah was written in al-andalus

Inquistion,Pogrom,Crusade,Holocaust are products of a Western Christian world.

It was Infact Sallah al din ayoobi (a Muslim leader of Kurd Extraction)
who upon seeing the desolation that the crusaders haddone to jerusalem , Invited the jews to return.

It was a Roman who started the wandering jew. by laying waste to jerusalem and infact buring it .

I have yet to meet a jew who will actualy shout

Hip Hip Hurray.

deriving from the first letters of the Latin phrase "Hierosylma Est Perdita (Jerusalem is destroyed/burnt)


How very Ironic it is that the Roots of Modern israel is derived from Arabs fighting for their freedom and for a united arab kingdom.

There would be no israel today if it had not been for the Arab revolt against the Turks.


there would be few jews today if it had not been for Islam.






 
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dan
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October 31 2004, 11:04 AM 

I agree there is no ancient hatred between Muslim and Jewish.
I agree that Jewish got much better treatment from the Muslim then the Christians.

Comparing Muslim treatment to Christians treatment towards Jewish will make
the Muslim to an angels.

After saying that, i will add that Muslim were good to the Jewish only while
we compare them to Christians.
Progroms occure in Iraq, Libya, Syria...
Jewish were second degree citizens in arab states.

In fact, Libya has the worse record in persecution of Jewish in the last 60 years.

From all north africans state, Libyans Jewish were the only one who was in
concentration camps during WW2.
Libya also ban all Jewish assets in the 50.



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dan
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October 31 2004, 11:20 AM 

Landos
As in ethnic cleansing? That will never happen. Israel has a lot of leeway with the United States, because American Jews are active supporters for that nation. But if you lose their support, you can forget any US support. And you will lose their support if you act like Nazi's. Israel has already lost a lot of American Jewish support with it's appalling behavior towards the Palestinians.


1. In wars people are running form one place ot other.
2. The EU will face similar dilemma in the near future.
3. There waw always Jewish who support the arabs- nothing change- most of
the Jewish ,especially the Orthodox which R conservative will always support
Israel.
4. One thing is to stop support Israel (i agree it can happen sometime in the future) another thing is to support the Arabs(I dont see it happen).
5. More and more Christians support Israel because of religious reasons(both
Americans and Europeans).


Israel is winning the battle, but losing the war. Your image in the world has taken a massive nosedive the last 2 decades. You don't think that matters? It does. Trust me. The heat Israel takes in this forum is just a microcosm of the hostility many folks around the world feel for you. You're regarded as beligerant, unethical and self-serving. Traits you've earned with your policies, I might add.

But who care what people like U think about us?
In the end of the day our PPL is rising ~100K Jewish R bornd each year in
Isreal. We will return to our territory (the rest of the Land Of Israel) and who care what others think or say.


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Diunei Lingyen
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October 31 2004, 11:40 AM 

Barring some unforseen miracle (i.e. enlightened leaders on BOTH sides actually live to implement the peace agreements, or an alien invasion of Earth,) this conflict will only end when:

  • Israel kills everybody in its neighbours AND occupies their land, or
  • Arab world unites and presents a firm, united front against the Israeli government

 
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Anonymous
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October 31 2004, 11:44 AM 

That is because there were soldiers from the jewish agency who, burnt bedouin libyan farms, and there were only a handfull of arabs in libya!


During ww2 and pre ww2 My countrymen were in concentration camps inside Libya.

The Jewish population was favored by the Italian Fascists.

The Jewish population in Libya was not subject to being put in the camps.

The Italians had 4 levels in their addministration of Libya.

Colonists
Jews
Tripoltanians (Libyans from the City of Tripoli)
Bedouin (Eastern Libyans who were in Armed rebellion)

I will not hear for Dan to say that the Libyan people went along with sending little women and children to camps, It was we who were in the camps.

The so called Tripoltanian Jewish Population worked together with the Italian fascist regime arm in arm , That being said there were some jews who did not take the same posistion as the majority of his coreligionists.


in 1950 after the establishment of the state of israel and some near 4 years of Armed Soldiers belonging to the World Jewish Agency/Israeli Army (1948)
The Libyan Govt Cracked down alongside the masses.

in 1945 the libyan jewish population made up some significant numbers of the total population of Libya.

in 1993 or 4 The Last jew in Libya died.
Her name was Esmeralda Meghnagi.

The zionists got their wishes they sent armed men into libya to do attacks on bedouin villages near israeli settlements, Hoping for these attacks to lead to reprisals against their own people, and these reprisals by arabs against their jewish countrymen led to an exodus of the jews into Israel and into recently "abbandoned" homes.

 
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Anonymous
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October 31 2004, 1:52 PM 

I have me Jews, some are nice, others are picks. They are normal people. However, when they get together, they are this one big racist machine who is always trying to bash on the other one.

 
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dan
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October 31 2004, 9:49 PM 

They are normal people.

LOL thanks, now after U said we R normal i can relax.
I dont think U R normal.
I think U need EDITED to come back to normality.

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Anonymous
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October 31 2004, 10:13 PM 

thats not cool dan. just because i hate jews and zionism doesnt mean you and i cant be friends. we can be good friends!!! just discuss other topics besides israel.

 
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Bharat
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October 31 2004, 10:15 PM 

I just thought of great solution.

Well, reason for creation of Israel, was because the Europeans persecuted their own people--the Jews. The Jews sought refuge in the Arab land, the Arabs weren't so hospitable.

Well, the right decision would be to make an Israel on the mother of all Zionism, GERMAN soil. However, that is impossible today. Even if it is possible, it will simply change it from Israel vs. Arabia to Israel vs. Germany. And we are looking for peace.


So, I guess, have all Jews come to India. Of the 125 countries the Jewish diaspora reached, India is the only place where Jews have no record of persecution.
And anyway, we get so many refugees. Tibetans, Zoroastrians, Afghans, Syrian Christians, Assyrians, Babylonians, Jews, emancipated African slaves, have all made their way towards India.

So, come to India, add to our humongous chanachur (trail mix) of a nation, we can accomodate all.

And that ends the religious violence in the Middle East.

 
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dan
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October 31 2004, 10:16 PM 

BrotherAbdullah
The so called Tripoltanian Jewish Population worked together with the Italian fascist regime arm in arm , That being said there were some jews who did not take the same posistion as the majority of his coreligionists.


This is what they teach U in school or did U made it by yourself?

The Jewish in Italy were murdered by those Fascists.
The Jewish in Libya sent to concentration camps(in Libya).

Dont understand your post , full of rubbish.
Mussolini was ally of Germans leader, Hitler.
He is the reason why the Italian jewish was murdered.

The zionists got their wishes they sent armed men into libya to do attacks on bedouin villages near israeli settlements, Hoping for these attacks to lead to reprisals against their own people, and these reprisals by arabs against their jewish countrymen led to an exodus of the jews into Israel and into recently "abbandoned" homes.

This is what i call "Arabian Nights stories"- i always said U have great imagination.

My father told me that while there were clashes between Israelis and arabs,
and the arabs suffered from casualties , they have to lock themselve in home.
While the Israelis suffered from casualties they(the Tunisians)were celebrate (i am talking abut early 50).

This is one of the main reason why the Jewish left the arab states.
The arabs shot themselve in the legs- like always.

Now Gaddafi want the Jewish back. .

LOL we also calling the Jewihs from Libya Tripoltanians.






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Anonymous
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October 31 2004, 10:20 PM 

yes go to india, go to the country where the world Hygene has been lost for the past 3000 years.

 
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