You must differentiate religions from relationship. Striver couldn't and then WOULDN'T. It is TRUE that while there are MANY TRUE Christian Bible based denominations that have disagreements, it is ALSO true that there are MANY sects or cults that CLAIM to be Christian BUT their usage of the Bible is very selective or iow they cherry pick verses that agree with their claims and sloth off verses that dispute their claims. The ones that are TRUE disagree on NON-ESSENTIAL DOCTRINES such as is it necessary to be baptized in water in order to be saved or not. Holding to different views on such matters to NOT MAKE one a Christian or not. The fact is that differing views on NON-ESSENTIAL ISSUES imv, is matter of maturity. There is the TRUTH it's just one church may have yet received the REVELATION OF A CERTAIN TRUTH because of using an improper Biblical interpretation method.
While it true there IS NO BIBLE CODE it is ALSO true that the WHOLE FOCUS of the Bible circles around the Godman Jesus Christ BOTH BEFORE CHRIST CAME and AFTER CHRIST ASCENDED, and that is evident FROM Genesis 3:15. There is NOTHING in the Scriptures about Israel until Abraham Gen 12, but is there IS SALVATION by God BEFORE Israel from Noah's Ark, and SALVATION then as it is NOW is applied THROUGH FAITH.
15 And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, and you shall bruise him on the heel." (NAS)
TS> As far as Adam(man) is concerned, yes man dies, but nothing has happened to change that, not even Jesus. Jesus' followers still die.
N> Very much has happened though TS. Jesus WHO IS THE TRUTH that you are seeking stated clearly...
25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me shall live even if he dies,
Yes very much has changed.......The followers of Christ will die physically but Christ showed by His resurrection that even though man WILL DIE PHYSICALLY, he WILL BE RESURRECTED in the place of his FINAL ABODE. Now as an agnostic you can claim that no one knows for sure BUT Jesus Himself SHOWED that one CAN KNOW FOR SURE because He resurrected Himself. It's a matter of being willing to accept the truth by FAITH, it is not a matter of you claiming TRUTH CAN'T BE KNOWN.
The New Testament writers ALL agreed Christ was resurrected with EYEWITNESSES to the fact. You accepting or rejecting the historical fact is a matter of YOU exercising your free will choice to do either.
The Apostles Creed has nothing to do with the Abrahamic Covenant God made with the nation of Israel as I've informed you,
THE APOSTLE'S CREED (as it usually recited today)
I BELIEVE in God the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth: And in Jesus Christ his only Son, our Lord; who was conceived by the Holy Ghost, born of the virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, dead, and buried; he descended into hell; the third day he rose again from the dead; he ascended into heaven, and sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almighty; from thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Ghost; the holy catholic church; the communion of saints; the forgiveness of sins; the resurrection of the body; and the life everlasting. Amen
True believers (HIS PEOPLE) whether they be Jews or Gentiles recite this Creed today as members of ONE BODY.
TS> If I am wrong, I will not have the option of blaming someone else for leading me astray.
I will be happy to address the scriptures you presented, in a separate post.
N> We ALL are responsible for what we believe TS. What I'd like you to do is to establish Israel for ME BEFORE Gen 3:15, the prophecy of the Messiah. I will listen to your address to my verses if you wish though. Unless we LOVE the truth, we cannot know it ~~ Pascal