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Here is how I figure it...

March 7 2010 at 11:01 PM

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Sufi


Response to Hmmm how do you figure that?

Hello Nucc:
I repeat my question; Since the prophets began warning the people of the northern and southern kingdoms that they were away from God and that they had to get back to God, can you show me anywhere that the prophets told the people that they could only get back to God individually, if a God/man is sacrificed, and individuals accept that God/man as their saviour? Or that this unmentioned sacrifice would reverse the Adamic curse so that men would stop dying?
To me it is obvious that since the prophets started showing up after the fall of Israel, it was the division and fall of Israel for which the people needed to get back to God. The two warring enemy kingdoms ignored the warnings of the prophets, and both went down to their respective destructions.
Since the fall of Israel took the Abrahamic covenant back to square one, re-creating the need for a great nation to take everlasting possession of the specified land, the promise of the blessing of all the nations also returned to square one(fall of man). The sin for which redemption is required, was the national sin of division which caused the fall of Isrel. Redemption for that sin can only come by Israel's resurrection from the dead, to repentance for it's sin of division. God turned His face away when Israel became divided during Solomon's reign, and will only turn His face back when covemamt Israel is resurrected from the dead, to repentance. The goal of post Solomonic believers in the Abrahamic covenant, has always been the resurrection of the kingdom, and since that is the goal of True Jews, resurrection of the kingdom will be salvation to the True Jew first.
When the resurrected kingdom blesses all the nations with peace on earth, that will be salvation also to the Greek.
What was the goal of Jesus? To seek and to save that which was lost. What was that which was lost? The lost sheep of the house of Israel to whom Jesus came exclusively. Why were they lost? because they had backslidden from True Judaism. How did Jesus heal their backslidng? By telling them that the kingdom is coming. What kingdom? The kingdom of the messiah's father David. What is the purpose of the messiah taking the throne of his father David? To bring peace on earth, good will to men.
Consider how easy it must have been for Rome to change the doctrine of the "resurrection of the dead kingdom to everlasting life", to the "resurrection of dead individuals to everlasting life". Consider how important that doctrinal change must have been to the Empire which possessed the very land which God promised would become the everlasting possession of Abraham's children.
Can you not see that there has been a radical departure from the everlasting Abrahamic covenant, in the doctrines of today's Christianity?

"I don't speak for God. All I have is personal opinion based on the story of continuity which runs through the bible!"

 
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