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Not a disconnect at all Vince

April 22 2010 at 12:57 PM
Nucc  (Login Forerunner)

Response to Two disconnected passages of scripture

The only disconnection is your unwillingness to properly view Scripture in context.


The adjective aionios translated "eternal" ORIGINALLY MEANT BELONGINGING "TO" the AGE. So the word ETERNAL "IS OFTEN" used to refer to the QUALITY of the age RATHER THAN THE DURATION.

NOW READ CAREFULLY ......HOWEVER, notice I put "IS OFTEN" in quotes, and did so for a reason because while the word "IS OFTEN" used in the sense of quality rather than duration >>>>>THIS IS "NOT ALWAYS" THE CASE
I will mention a rendering then for Hebrews 13:8 ...

8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and to the end of the age.(aion)


From the same as G104; properly an age; by extension perpetuity (also past); by implication the world; specifically (Jewish) a Messianic period (present or future): - age, course, eternal, (for) ever (-more), [n-]ever, (beginning of the, while the) world (began, without end). Compare G5550.

If you observe CONTEXT you should get the PROPER RENDERING. So since the Bible teaches the Word (Jesus Christ is God Jn1:1) then you SHOULD know that God has NO BEGINNING and NO END

Matt 25:46
46 "Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life." (NIV)

The word for ETERNAL in the above verse is..


From G165; perpetual (also used of past time, or past and future as well): - eternal, for ever, everlasting, world (began).

In both cases the word refers to a NON ENDING ...

A. of Jesus being God, and
B. a non ending of punishment

Now on to Daniel 12:1,2.

Dan 12:1-2
1 "Now at that time Michael, the great prince who stands {guard} over the sons of your people, will arise. And there will be a time of distress such as never occurred since there was a nation until that time; and at that time your people, everyone who is found written in the book, will be rescued.
2 "And many of those who sleep in the dust of the ground will awake, these to everlasting life, but the others to disgrace {and} everlasting contempt. (NAS)

everlasting - owlam


olam olam
o-lawm', o-lawm'
From H5956; properly concealed, that is, the vanishing point; generally time out of mind (past or future), that is, (practically) eternity; frequentative adverbially (especially with prepositional prefix) always: - always (-s), ancient (time), any more, continuance, eternal, (for, [n-]) ever (-lasting, -more, of old), lasting, long (time), (of) old (time), perpetual, at any time, (beginning of the) world (+ without end). Compare H5331, H5703.

The context again gives you the PROPER RENDERING because it is speaking of ALL rising from the dead, but assigned to DIFFERENT PLACES. If the place of punishment is not forever then so is heaven not forever.

CONTEMPT- deraon

dera'on dera'on
der-aw-one', day-raw-one'
From an unused root (meaning to repulse); an object of aversion: - abhorring, contempt.


Unless we LOVE the truth, we cannot know it ~~ Pascal

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