even if a theist doesn't understand God as much as he feels him, he does discuss the writings of those who have experienced him and come up with a language that tries to discuss another dimension besides the five senses;
its not so easy to discuss the cross with those who only understand reality from the five senses so a theist discusses the cross which he himself may not have experienced yet in a manner that makes no "sense" to the senses (of course not).
the cross for instance takes us outside the realm of the "senses" but it does take us to a HIGHER LEVEL than "the carnal mind, sensual mind" is able to perceive:
there is a scientific experiment called the 'Casimir affect" that describes the experience of the CROSS, at least it does for me and my own experience, and this truly will give a scientific mind a "concept' to look into:
but its not that easy to grasp conceptually because of the lack of sensual proof except through a lab experiment: HOW many people will be willing to do that?
here is Rabbi Leitman with the article on the Casimir affect:
I understood this immediately based on my experience of the cross which I wrote about somewhere below on this forum: