Perhaps we should start over

 

..... since we didn't achieve a consensus in the first place, which, of course, is imperative for any discussion when it is meant to be constructive.

The thread

Here's where you entered

Here's where the thread split

 If you could point out what you mean with outside the square & outside the sphere, respectively, it might be easier to asses what is being meant with what was said in reference to those connotations.

 

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rejected and denied by many, accepted and embraced by few : incontrovertibility
- it is not what we (think we) know that matters, it is what we can show true that does
as the maxim demands; truth is demonstrably fact and fact is demonstrably true
everything else ... mere BS -

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CD: short for incontrovertible