fact or fantasy?June 4 2011 at 10:18 AM
Kate (Login kateothelamp)
Response to The reality is
The Holocaust was definitely real, and is well and thoroughly documented. There are accounts of eye-witnesses -- Gentiles as well as Jews -- tons of photographs, and the writings of the Nazis themselves. There are even some people alive today who still have the freaking tattoos on their arms.
Nobody really understood the horror of what was going on at places like Auschwitz and Belzec until Allies got there and saw it for themselves. The Nazis even hid much of it from their own people by making sure the extermination camps were in Poland, Ukraine, and Serbia. I don't believe that the vast majority of German citizens during the war truly knew how horribly evil their leaders were.
It amazes me when people try to re-write history because they don't like the facts.
Holocaust deniers are people and organisations who assert that the Holocaust did not occur, or that it did not occur in the historically recognized manner and extent.
In 1979, the French academic Robert Faurisson in his publications said that "Hitler's 'gas chambers' never existed" that the existence of gas chambers in the extermination camps was "essentially of Zionist origin"; that The Diary of Anne Frank is inauthentic; that Elie Wiesel lied about what he lived in under the Nazis; and that no more than 6 million people were killed in the camps.
In 2005, in Austria, where Holocaust denial is a crime, the Austrians, acting upon a 1989 arrest warrant, detained British Historian David Irving, publisher of Holocaust-denying history books, for an Austrian speech crime "trivialising the Holocaust"; his trial earned him thirteen months imprisonment in 2006, and subsequent perpetual banishment from Austria.
Holocaust denial is contradicted by the testimonies of camp survivors and Final Solution perpetrators, material evidence (the remaining camps, etc.), Nazi photographs and films of the killings, and camp administration records. Educational efforts, such as those of the Nizkor Project and the Simon Wiesenthal Center, and the books of Deborah Lipstadt and Simon Wiesenthal, and those at Holocaust resources, all track and explain Holocaust denial. The books of (Holocaust) historians, such as Raul Hilberg (The Destruction of the European Jews, 1961, 1985), Lucy Davidowicz (The War Against the Jews, 1975), Ian Kershaw, and others identify Holocaust denial as a minority historical belief.
- - fact or fantasy? - JVH say on Jun 4, 2011, 12:28 PM
- A heads up for you Kate - JB on Jun 4, 2011, 12:58 PM
- thanks JB... - Kate on Jun 4, 2011, 1:36 PM
- JVH is a european academic - JB on Jun 4, 2011, 2:07 PM
- The Horse's Mouth - JVH say on Jun 4, 2011, 3:00 PM
- Jens - JB on Jun 4, 2011, 3:19 PM
- I don't share - JVH say on Jun 4, 2011, 4:01 PM
- Because - JB on Jun 4, 2011, 4:08 PM
- C&S - JVH say on Jun 4, 2011, 4:17 PM
- Hmmm ... interesting - JVH say on Jun 4, 2011, 2:48 PM
- By your standards - Mondo on Jun 4, 2011, 3:18 PM
- A retort for you JB - JVH say on Jun 4, 2011, 2:41 PM