That paradigmJune 10 2012 at 3:44 AM
Vince (Login MoxiFox)
Response to Re: If you accept this as universal morality, you will reject God.
... where a perfect all-knowing, benevolent, omnipotent God created something that turned against him but he loved them so much that he first killed all of them except for "8 souls" ... and then again ... had to have his own son sacrificed in order to "reach" the off-spring of those chosen 8 -- again, because of "love" ... is patently illogical and absurdly ridiculous. No arguments attempting to support this paradigm can make any sense. If God is all-knowing and all powerful he couldn't make such a mistake in the first place and in the second place ... he might as well have killed the surviving 8 and started over again.
What modern Christianity consistently omits from its teaching is that the "ancients" were under no "illusion" that "God" was a single entity. As I've pointed out many times ... "God" in the English OTestament was "Elohim" and "God" in the NTestament was "Theos". Different languages originally but the same concept of God as a large corporate entity.
The evidence for the multi-entitied God is shown all THROUGHOUT the Bible ... if people would just stop and look (or even ... KNOW their Bibles a little bit).
The Hebrew god Jahveh was CONSTANTLY ranting about jealousy over his chosen people worshiping OTHER gods. How could he be jealous of his own creation?
It's true that for the Hebrews there was but ONE god (and only for their new Jahveistic religion introduced at the time of king Josiah) ... but that was a CHOICE of gods and not a listing of gods. For them there was only Jahveh whom they would pledge to obey and worship (which gave the priests consolidated power over the people).
But otherwise, there was ALWAYS the perception of a multitude of gods (also called "the host of heaven in the OTestament).
This is totally evident in the OTestament everywhere you look ... but also in the NTestament ... where Paul -on Mars Hill- tells the people that he is introducing to them ... the "unknown god." (Acts 17:23)
OK then ...
When you put the Bible into the context of MULTI-gods ... it all makes logical sense and there's no more of the ridiculousness being promulgated by modern Christianity.
If there are many gods ... no ONE god has absolute control of anything ... and it becomes a competition.
Then the ONE chosen god enlists or needs the help of people (whom ALL the gods contributed to creating).
Then ... sending a son to die for the sins of the people ... makes sense ... as Paul described in 1 Cor. 2:6-8
[Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:
7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.]
"World" is translated from the Greek "aion" ... which meant "age" or era.
"Princes" is translated from the Greek "archons" which meant rulers.
Paul is speaking of a cosmic occurrence where the gods were fooled by killing the cosmic son of the gods -Jesus- because they didn't know that he would then manage to become alive again ... with even greater power than before.
You see, when you look at it in the myth setting ... that story is very common: a god was killed and then came to life again miraculously with even greater power than before.