Doc Strange (Login edstrange13) Sufi Posted Nov 2, 2010 10:34 AM
Jackie said: As never having been a one for 'miracles', always believing there is an explanation somewhere, miracles is as miracle does....
In this case, the explanation is very simple. Apple trees grow from apple seeds. They're supposed to. No miracle necessary. No magic required.
Giving credit for the normal growth cycle of apple trees to magic seems a bit disingenuous to me. Sorry to rain on the parade, but I gotta call them as I see them. It would be dishonest of me to do otherwise.
Jackie said: A miracle if just a word for that which still evedes us, such as the creation of life itself, little things like that!
Well, that which evades us, to me, isn't a miracle. I think it more of a lack of understanding or knowledge. However, in this case, there is no lack of understanding. The life cycle of apple trees is not a mystery to us, and is well documented. Now, if Tim could get his apple trees to grow in the Sahara Desert, or the Arctic Tundra, or on the surface of Mars... that would qualify as a miracle.
And therein lies my point. There are no such things as miracles. There is only what we know, and what we don't know.
As Einstein once said, the real miracle is that there are no miracles in the real world.
"The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church." -- Ferdinand Magellan