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  • Do you recognize that God gains pleasure in creating evil?
    • JVH say (Login JVH)
      Posted Jun 13, 2012 2:25 AM

       

      Ah yes, the ol' evil paradox.

      "Either God wants to abolish evil, and cannot; or he can, but does not want to. . . . If he wants to, but cannot, he is impotent. If he can, but does not want to, he is wicked. . . . If, as they say, God can abolish evil, and God really wants to do it, why is there evil in the world?" -- Epicurus

      Schematic:

      If an all-powerful and perfectly good god exists, then evil does not.
      There is evil in the world.
      Therefore, an all-powerful and perfectly good god does not exist.
      See Epicurus

      Refinement:

      God exists.
      God is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent.
      An omnibenevolent being would want to prevent all evils.
      An omniscient being knows every way in which evils can come into existence.
      An omnipotent being has the power to prevent evils from coming into existence.
      A being that knows every way in which evil can come into existence; able to prevent evil from coming into existence; and wants to do so, would prevent the existence of evil.
      If there exists an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent being, then no evil exists.
      Evil exists.
      Therefore, an omnipotent and omnibenevolent god does not.
       

      As Epicurus put it:

      "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
      Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
      Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
      Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"

       

      - propositions which imply their own negation are necessarily false whereas propositions implied by their own negation are necessarily true -




      rejected and denied by many, accepted and embraced by few : falsifiability
      - it is not what we (think we) know that matters, it is what we can show true that does
      as the maxim demands; truth is demonstrably fact and fact is demonstrably true
      everything else ... mere BS -

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