Do you think the forum's resident Jesus misquoters will watch these and see the irony?
I doubt it.
"The Christ of Theology is not alive for us today. He is wrapped in the grave cloths of dogma." -- Dr. Albert Schweitzer
"The church says the earth is flat, but I know that it is round, for I have seen the shadow on the moon, and I have more faith in a shadow than in the church." -- Ferdinand Magellan
the bible is written in a unique way and Ive been trying to tell you about that
February 2 2011, 12:11 PM
the whole BIBLE tells the same story over and over and over and over so even if someone misquoted something according to the carnal mind, which can't understand this book anyway, the spiritual mind grasps what is written from an experience of RISING ABOVE THE MIND;
yet this isn't done on our own through meditation as Tim thinks
but it is done by GOD when he himself LIFTS US UP unto himself, he takes our spirit that makes us feel alive
and takes it out of the body, but not all the way
this makes a person feel like they don't know if they are IN or OUT of the body, as we hear the apostle Paul explain it
I too had this experience of the rapture which takes our spirit up and this is a VISCERAL physical sensation since the SPIRIT is the life force
imagine (because thats as far as you can grasp this) that your spirit has hair and someone grabs your spiritual hair and PULLS you out of your body
this does two things besides scarrying you half to death
it lets you KNOW that your spirit is truly the life force because NOW you have a frame of reference for it besides the body
and two, it lets you know that there is SOMETHING else that pulls it, not you
now you look at reality below (ego understanding) from above, spiritual understanding
and you grasp how all good things come from above because NOW THERE IS AN ABOVE FOR YOU
I will go as far as to say the spiritual rapture is
February 2 2011, 12:22 PM
it goes against gravity and you suddenly realize that gravity is only a law that affects the body and the spirit when it is "locked" imprisoned in the body can not stay there once the body is dead
but it can also be taken out of the body by the FORCE that it comes from when that force reconnects to it....
hence the first resurrection which means the 'second death' has no power over you
if a person lives till he dies physically then he won't know that it is his spirit that gave him life because now it is no longer in the body:
a corpse may look like a living person but if you ever went to a funeral you see something missing and it is LIFE
this LIFE force is no longer there in the matter and it begins to deteriorate
but the matter breaks apart without the spirit
now, if the same person experiences the rapture before the body releases the whole spirit, then they will understand HOW GOD created everything because they will RISE ABOVE their own physical consciousness even while they are still in the body
so how can this happen? how can the spirit leave and still the body is here???
this is why it is written to the Philadelphia church that they had a "little strength"
God leaves a little bit of the spirit with the body but takes 2/3 of it out
hence it is written that 1/3 of the angels that were with Satan (the spirit of man) goes back to earth with him
this is why the apostle Paul now felt their torment and asked God to remove them....three times he asked
God says, my grace is sufficient
my strength is made perfect in YOUR WEAKNESS
that which is above.....his Christ consciousness
was ENOUGH to overcome the affects on his lower consciousness, his carnal consciousness
till the WHOLE THING was raised to be with the LORD in the air (above)
this is why it says, "the dead in Christ rise first", showing that the part that dies, leaves the body, goes up first to be with the LORD in the air
but then that which is alive (the soul that experiences this is now alive) will also be gathered together to be with him and so it will remain
why leave that part in the body?
to BE CORRECTED here....below as above
if God took it all, the body would die and the soul would not be able to be corrected
it can only be corrected while in the body
This message has been edited by Harpazo on Feb 2, 2011 12:54 PM