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February 22 2011 at 10:33 PM
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1. WHO TOLD YOU THAT JESUS IS GOD?..YOUR POPE AND PRIEST? - VER on Mar 18, 6:03 AM
1. Ver, can you tell this forum the real issue - Albert on Jul 25, 8:31 PM
1. Re: Ver, can you tell this forum the real issue - ver on Sep 12, 8:44 AM
1. Jesus never corrected them. - Albert on Apr 2, 1:19 AM
1. stop destorting jesus true teaching about God - ver on May 30, 2:57 AM
2. IS CHRIST CO-CREATOR? - VER on Mar 18, 6:18 AM
1. All things were created through Him and for Him. (Col. 1:16,) - Albert on Jul 25, 8:38 PM
1. Re: All things were created through Him and for Him. (Col. 1:16,) - ver on Sep 12, 8:55 AM
3. IS JESUS ADRESS AS "HO THEOS"? - VER on Mar 18, 6:20 AM
1. You see, - Albert on Jul 25, 8:41 PM
1. Re: You see, - ver on Sep 12, 8:46 AM
2. The Pharisees were Roman Collaborators... - Pope Reverend I, BV on Jul 1, 1:29 PM
4. DOES THE TERM "IMAGE OF GOD" BE TAKEN AS LITERAL GOD? - VER on Mar 18, 6:21 AM
1. Excure me. The verse "All have sinned and - Albert on Jul 25, 8:48 PM
1. Re: Excure me. The verse "All have sinned and - ver on Sep 12, 8:38 AM
5. DOES THE TERM "SON OF GOD" IMPLY DEITY? - VER on Mar 18, 6:22 AM
1. John 10:36b - Albert on Jul 25, 9:34 PM


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8-DJ
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Sufi

The Illusive Jesus the Christ ... Who is His own Father: God

February 22 2011, 11:25 PM 

About some 2000 years ago, a Jewish carpenter who was his own father -a bearded, robed, invisible human male who lives in the sky and watches everything you do- became a zombie, and can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh, drink his blood and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master/saviour, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in all humans because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat some fruit from a magical tree...........


There is this supernatural man, Jesus; born of a virgin; traveling the country-side, who: performs miracles; starts a movement; is a nuisance to Romans and Jews alike; is killed; comes back to life again, and all the while other supernatural occurences directly related to this supernatural man's existence take place. A remarkable person like this doesn't go unnoticed, neither do directly related and even so remarkle, supernatural events. Yet, independent, contemporary commentators/historians - all of them - somehow decide to not note it down?

God

An invisible, perfect, omni-everything deity named "God" created the earth, nay, the solar system, nay, the galaxy, nay, the universe, well, just about everything really, in six days, out of nowhere, and for no apparent reason. After that, this invisible, perfect, omni-everything deity ceased creating out of nowhere and went on 'establishing' in complicated, roundabout and rather contrived ways - as any all-powerful entity would, naturally. 8^)

Jesus

Except for an introduction in "Luke" -in which it is stated what follows is hearsay- the gospels are not signed and are written in the third person perspective (as by an out of sight narrator). The authors, blatantly, never situate themselves within the unfolding narrative nor give any hint they themselves were involved in the events described. Several narratives even involve Jesus by himself, i.e., without any witnesses present. ~8^\

- hearsay - (s)he says that another said/did this or that; unverified, unofficial information gained or acquired from another; not part of one's direct knowledge; not straight from 'the horse's mouth'; second hand info (at best)

 

'Every time we read in ecclesial books a tale of which its reality seems impossible; a story defying reason and common sense, be assured the tale to be an allegory; containing a universal truth or two, and the greater the absurdity of the tale, the deeper the possible wisdom.' -- Paraphrase




-it is not what you (think you) know that matters, it is what you can show true that does
after all, truth is demonstrably fact and fact is demonstrably true - everything else ... mere opinion-


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QUITTNER
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Any stories - to maximize the money intake?

February 24 2011, 11:15 AM 

Many stories have been invented over the many centuries ever since writing was invented. Libraries are full of fiction books and lots of people buy them, and/or watch some of them on TV or elsewhere.
..... I think of Jesus (or whatever was his real name) as a Jewish social reformer who established artificial "families" (that all modern churches are supposed to be, but aren't) under the umbrella name "The Kingdom of God"; their members were only GOOD, specially selected/chosen, fully qualified for a communal lifestyle people, now called "Saints".
..... As I keep repeating, the only valid Christianity is the one by Jesus, but many other so-called "Christianities" with their supporting literature were invented after Jesus had been crucified.
In Jesus' group the emphasis was on maximizing the quality of members, never mind their quantity, while in the later so-called "Christianities" the emphasis was/is on maximizing the quantity of members (or rather their money donations to clergy?) - never mind their quality.

 
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The Illusive Jesus traveling up and down the Levant

February 24 2011, 11:42 AM 

"As I keep repeating, the only valid Christianity is the one by Jesus, but many other so-called "Christianities" with their supporting literature were invented after Jesus had been crucified."

Since there exist no independent, contemporary, during-the-events, corroborating accounts of a Jesus traveling up and down the Levant some 2000 years ago, what makes you think the Jesus you refer to existed?



-it is not what we (think we) know that matters, it is what we can show true that does
after all, truth is demonstrably fact and fact is demonstrably true - everything else ... mere conjecture-


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Yvonne/Zafana
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and once again

February 24 2011, 12:11 PM 

Quittner, I know you don't believe me, but its true nevertheless that Jesus is the "NAME" given to the SOUL that unites to, is baptized INTO CHRIST and the HOly Spirit:


this is called BAPTIZED INTO JESUS NAME

the reason none of you understand the BIBLE over here is because your 'carnal ears' can grasp that JESUS IS NOT A PERSON but the "MAN" God is becoming in his own image and likeness

that MAN BEGAN when the first person was baptized into Jesus name and continues till the LAST ADAM is baptized into that name

then you will see JESUS (THE WHOLE MAN), the ONLY MAN since all men are not men according to the definition of the Bible, but mere beasts

first a male has to become a WOMAN (in nature all begin female) and then this WOMAN must give birth to the LAST MAN, hence JESUS IS THE SEED OF THE WOMAN

and not of mere men or beasts


its spiritually discerned so all your historical reading and research won't bring you any closer to the truth than you are now

especially if all you want to do is DISPROVE a story


instead of SEEEKING for the truth within YOUR OWN experience, which is the ONLY PLACE you will EVER EVER EVER FIND JESUS


hence, EVERY EYE SHALL SEE HIM

mark my words, which is the WORD made FLESH in my heart of flesh.....


his flesh............not my physical flesh

the flesh of Jesus Christ begins in our flesh.............and transforms our flesh into HIS FLESH



transformation is seen in nature............observe a worm becoming a butterfly


Jacob is called the worm for that reason:

 
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Yvonne/Zafana
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people who want to see everything

February 24 2011, 12:20 PM 

these same people wouldn't have believed in anything till they see it, but then they wouldn't believe that a seed becomes a tree till they see a tree:


and if someone thinks that spiritual reality is so strange, explain that phenomina of a tiny seed becoming a tree?

explain an egg and sperm making a person:

what is so strange about the spiritual that you can't see when there are so many things in nature that you can't see till they appear


nature explains how the SPIRIT DEVELOPS



and guess what, the Bible says the first woman comes from the man


but the last Man comes from the woman

so how does God make the woman?



he takes her out of the old man, which is a beast, a sensual animal soul:


the woman begins with the first soul that is able to RECEIVE spiritual light

hence Jesus is the name of the MAN that is born to the woman (soul) that is able to receive spiritual light, God overshadows this woman with his spirit

till you exprience this within, you haven't experienced anything yet


trust me or not

it is the plan of the creator and his plan is working so far

he made the creature first and the creation is the image of God



MAN however will be in the image and LIKENESS of God, meaning LIKE HIM,


the LAST MAN will be JUST LIKE THE CREATOR in that he will be able to SPEAK the same WORD and make LIFE happen according to the LAW OF NATURE



 
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Re: people who want to see everything

February 25 2011, 1:51 AM 

the LAST MAN will be JUST LIKE THE CREATOR in that he will be able to SPEAK the same WORD and make LIFE happen according to the LAW OF NATURE
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Where do you find this in the Bible Yvonne?

Or who told you this?

Who do you think you will be in the future Yvonne?

Micah 4.3 And he shall judge among many people, and rebuke strong nations afar off; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up a sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

Isaiah 11.6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

Will you be a co-creator in the future Yvonne?

XO

 
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