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May 20 2011 at 7:09 PM
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Ponder: Who put whom in their places!
John.7:16 Jesus answered them, and said,
7:19 Did not Moses give you the law,
and yet none of you keepeth the law?

{Law: (Stay in own place on sabbath)
Exod.16:28 And the LORD said unto Moses,
How long refuse ye
to keep my commandments
and my laws?
16:29 See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath,
therefore he giveth you on the sixth day
the bread of two days;
abide ye every man in his place,
let no man go out of his place
on the seventh day.

Law: (Stay in own place and do nothing on sabbath)
Exodus 20:1 And God spake all these words,
saying,20:2 I am the LORD thy God,

{20:4 Thou shalt not make
{Ezek 29:3 Thus saith the Lord GOD;
Pharaoh king of Egypt,
the great dragon

{Rev 12:9 And the great dragon
was cast out,
that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan,
which deceiveth the whole world:

{Ponder: the whole world v. the whole field:

Ponder: the Whole field:
Mattthew 13:36 Then Jesus
13:37 He answered and said
13:38 The field is the world;

Ponder: Whole world: (God so loved the world (field)

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said
15:19 If ye were of the world (field),
the world (field) would love his own world (field):

{Ponder: the world would love his own
John 3:16 For God so loved the world,

Ponder: Did God not so loved!
the world (God) would love his own (world)
the world field (God) would love his own (world)field (God)}

but because ye are not of the world (field),
but I have chosen you out of the world (field),
therefore the world (field) hateth you.

{Ponder: the world (field)Can not hate you:
John 7:6 Then Jesus said
7:7 The world (field) cannot hate you;

John 3:16 For God so loved the world,

John 13:1 Now before the feast of the passover,
when Jesus (God)(world-field) knew that his hour was come
that he should depart out of this world (field)(God)
unto the Father,
having loved his own (world (field)(God)
which were in the world (field) (God),

{Ponder: in world (field) (God):
John 14:9 Jesus saith
14:20 At that day ye shall know
that I am in my Father (in heaven) (God) (world) (field),

Ponder: {Father in heaven:
Matthew 23:1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude,
and to his disciples,
23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth:
for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

Ponder: God the Father (in heaven, whom Jesus is in):
John 6:26 Jesus answered them and said,
6:27 God the Father}

and ye in me (in heaven), and I in you (in the world (field). }

he loved (God so loved)them (world-field) unto the end.}

he was cast out into the earth,
and his angels were cast out with him.}

that lieth in the midst of his rivers,
which hath said,
My river is mine own,
and I have made it
for myself. }

unto thee,
"any likeness of any thing"

(Ponder: Does that include a child

Luke 2:23 (As it is written in the law of the Lord,
Every male
that openeth the womb

{Gen.30:22 And God remembered Rachel,
and God hearkened to her,
and opened her womb.}

shall be called holy to the Lord;)

{Luke 1:35 And the angel answered
and said unto her,
The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee,
and the power of the Highest
shall overshadow thee:
therefore also that holy thing
which shall be born of thee
shall be called the Son of God.} )

that is in heaven above,
or that is in the earth beneath,
or that is in the water under the earth:}

20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God:
in it thou shalt not do any work,
thou, (Adam-he-her-them-their-they)

{Gen.5:2 Male and female created he them;
and blessed them,
and called their name Adam,
in the day when they were created.}

nor thy son,
nor thy daughter,
thy manservant,
nor thy maidservant,
nor thy cattle,
nor thy stranger
that is within thy gates:

7:22 Moses therefore gave unto you circumcision;
(not because it is of Moses, but of the fathers;)
and ye on the sabbath day circumcise a man.

7:23 If a man on the sabbath day
receive circumcision,
that the law of Moses
should not be broken;

are ye angry at me,
because I have made a man
every whit whole
on the sabbath day?

7:24 Judge not
according to the appearance,
but judge righteous judgment.

Ponder: If they had been in their own placed,
who would they know waht the disciple did!
Matt.12
[2] But when the Pharisees saw it,
they said unto him,
Behold, thy disciples do that
which is not lawful
to do upon the sabbath day.

Luke.6
[2] And certain of the Pharisees
said unto them,
Why do ye that
which is not lawful to do
on the sabbath days?

John.5
[10] The Jews therefore said unto him
that was cured,
It is the sabbath day:
it is not lawful
for thee to carry thy bed.

More Later,

Love All ONE!
One!life

 
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May 20 2011, 11:34 PM 

Cutting foreskin off the penis has nothing to do with faith. Peoples of the southern islands use Tatoos - far more sanitary and less barbaric. Just a cultural thing.

None of the people you mention from the bible knew jesus. The passages just blow smoke.

Then again the entire bible is smoke.

 
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Re: Whacking

May 21 2011, 12:32 AM 

""""Then again the entire bible is smoke.""""
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Hay Iceman, if you were shown what wireless internet was 3000 years ago, would you describe it?

1 Then I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and
behold a flying roll (Zech. 5:1).

A A roll was an ancient book in the form of a rolled
manuscript, usually made of parchment.

1 Ancient parchments were commonly called scrolls.

2 When rolled up they were called rolls or volumes.

3 A rolled up scroll was cylindrical in shape and looked
like a modern roll of paper towels.

B The way this prophecy begins you could only conclude that
Zechariah was writing about a rolled up scroll that was
flying through the heavens.

C But notice the question the angel asked next.

2 And he said unto me, what seest thou? And I answered, I
see a flying roll; the length thereof is twenty cubits, and
the breadth thereof ten cubits (Zech. 5:2).

A In view of Zechariah's initial report of what he saw:
"behold a flying roll," why did the angel ask him "What
seest thou?"

- To draw attention to the fact that Zechariah was not
viewing an actual roll but some flying object that
was similar in appearance to a roll.

B At this point in the prophecy why would a communications
satellite be a possible candidate for what Zechariah saw?

1 First, Hebrew rolls did not fly through the heavens.

2 Second, satellites, like rolled up scrolls, are
cylindrical in shape.

3 Third, rolled up scrolls did not come in twenty by ten
cubic dimensions.



a A cubit was not a precise measurement in ancient
times but for centuries it has been considered to be
roughly 18 inches in length.

b Therefore, the flying roll Zechariah saw was about
30 feet long and 15 feet in diameter.

C Although Zechariah had no idea what he was viewing at
first glance, twentieth century people can make the
connection between a flying roll and a modern
communications satellite without difficulty.

D Commercial communications satellites were first deployed
in the heavens in the mid-1960s.

E At roughly 22,300 miles beyond the surface of the earth
they easily send and receive, simultaneously, thousands
of phone calls, TV broadcasts and computer-to-computer
data transmissions, from continent to continent, in mere
fractions of a second.

F America's 1980s Intelsat VI satellites were roughly 12
feet in diameter and 38 feet in length.

G In 1994, Brasilsat B, a widebody version of the popular
Hughes Galaxy HS 376 communications satellite, was placed
in orbit for EMBRATEL, Brazil's national telephone
company.

* Brasilsat's 27 feet 3 inch by 12 feet dimensions are not
30X15 feet, but it continues a trend to build larger,
more powerful satellites.

H Inspection of the functional capabilities of the shuttle
spaceships sheds more light on the significance of this
prophetic satellite's 30-by-15 foot dimensions.

1 One of the shuttle's main missions is to launch
communications satellites into higher orbit from
its cargo bay.

2 Later, if a satellite needs to be brought back to
earth for repairs, the shuttle's remote-controlled
arm stuffs it back into the shuttle's cargo bay for
the return trip.


3 Interestingly, the shuttle's cylindrical cargo bay
happens to be 60 feet long and 15 feet in diameter.

4 It is designed to carry two large disabled satellites
back to earth for repair that have a length of
approximately 30 feet and a breadth roughly equal
to 15 feet.

5 Note further that Russia's Buran shuttle also has a
15-by-60 foot cargo bay.


I Zechariah's continuing space-age prophecy spells out how
a future world government will use 30-by-15 foot
communications satellites to control a global monetary
system.

J Why did God provide the exact dimensions of tomorrow's
satellites in ancient times?

1 So people could not shrug off Zechariah's accurate
description of modern man's satellites.

2 Although the satellites that will be deployed by
tomorrow's world government are not yet available for
inspection, the similarity in size between today's
satellites and the one shown to Zechariah has to be
classified as nothing less than remarkable.

3 After all, how could Zechariah possibly have surmised
what size a satellite should be twenty-five centuries
before man invented one?

4 For even if Zechariah ingeniously conceptualized the
idea of a global communications system in his day,
there would have been no way for him to estimate the
correct size of the container required to house the
components needed to perform the actual communications
transmissions.

5 It turns out that it takes a 30-by-15 foot cylindrical
surface area to house the solar panels used to generate
the electricity required to run the satellite's
transponders.

II The angel then compared the flying roll's mission to a curse.

3 Then said he unto me, This is the curse that goeth forth
over the face of the whole earth: for every one that
stealeth shall be cut off as on this side according to it;
and every one that sweareth shall be cut off as on that
side according to it.
4 I will bring it forth, saith the Lord of hosts, and it
shall enter into the house of the thief, and into the house
of him that sweareth falsely by my name, and it shall
remain in the midst of his house, and shall consume it with
the timber thereof and the stones thereof (Zech. 5:3-4).

A How can it be determined from Zechariah's text that
the initial benefit of this future satellite-linked,
international financial system will be its ability to
eliminate thievery and cheating in business
transactions such as writing bad checks?

1 Zechariah specifically stated that everyone who
tries to steal will be "cut off," or banished, "as
on this side according to it."


2 Likewise, everyone who swears falsely in God's
name in the course of doing business "shall be cut
off on that side according to it."

3 If a person tries to beat the system, or is wanted
for another crime, central computer data banks
will alert the authorities when he attempts to use
the global computer network.

4 Punishment will consist of being "cut off," or
denied access into the world's computerized
economic system.

B Since this prophecy closes with a description of the
construction of a space base for tomorrow's world capital,
it is reasonable to conclude that the "world government
beast" will use computers and the satellites described in
this prophecy to gain control "over every tribe and people
and tongue and nation" (Rev. 13:7 IGENT).

C If computers with connecting satellite links will help
stop crime, why did God label this equipment and its use
as a "curse that goeth forth over the face of the whole
earth?"
1 God's forceful indictment warns of a coming day when
computers and connecting satellites will be used as a
weapon of oppression against innocent people.

2 Revelation 13's full explanation of how this
electronic equipment will be turned against
Christians (by controlling who can "buy and
sell") confirms this prophetic indictment.

D Zechariah inserted a Levitical analogy in verse 4 which
sharpens the form and substance of the matter.

1 "And it shall remain in the midst of his house, and
shall consume it with the timber thereof and the
stones thereof."

2 Zechariah employed the language used by Moses to
describe the early Hebrews' procedure for removing
the plague of leprosy, to show how Christians will
be treated at the end of the age.

44 Then the priest shall come and look, and, behold, if the
plague be spread in the house, it is a fretting leprosy in
the house: it is unclean.
45 And he shall break down the house, the stones of it, and
the timber thereof, and all the morter of the house; and he
shall carry them forth out of the city into an unclean
place (Lev. 14:44-45).

45 And the leper in whom the plague is, his clothes shall
be rent, and his head bare, and he shall put a covering
upon his upper lip, and shall cry, Unclean, unclean.
46 All the days wherein the plague shall be in him he shall
be defiled; he is unclean: he shall dwell alone; without
the camp shall his habitation be (Lev. 13:45-46).

A The Jews were very familiar with the dreaded disease of
leprosy and the procedure for utterly destroying a house
that had the plague within its structure.

1 In Zechariah's day they dug the foundation stones of a
leprous house right out of the ground.

2 Timbers, stones and mortar were carried outside the
city.

3 When the demolition was completed there was
absolutely nothing left.

B According to Zechariah's prophetic analogy, satellites
shall enter a person's house, shall remain in the midst
of his house, and shall consume it with the timber
thereof and the stones thereof.

1 Zechariah's greater prophecy warns that the world
government's satellites will enter the Christian's
house and dwell there day and night, when the central
computer system classifies a Christian as a "leper,"
for not receiving the "mark of the beast."

2 The "high priest satellite" will quarantine the
Christian's house by denying him access to the
world's computerized economic system.

3 Like the leper of old who lived "alone," outside the
camp, Christians will be forced to live outside of
the world's computerized economic system.

4 Therefore, in the last days, the satellite that will
come into a Christian's house and remain in the midst
of his house, will literally be "the curse that goeth
forth over the face of the whole earth."

III In view of the fact that man has built and launched
communications satellites into space, why does verse 4 say
"I will bring it forth, saith the Lord of hosts?"

A "Saith the Lord of hosts" is equivalent to saying: "for
the Lord has spoken this word" (Isa. 24:3).

B In other words these satellites will appear in the heavens
in the last days according to God's prophecy recorded by
Zechariah.

C The emphatic statement "I will bring it forth" declares
that even though the feasibility of sending satellites
through the heavens appeared to be an impossibility in
Zechariah's day, the fulfillment of the prophecy was as
certain as it would be if God himself built and launched
this man-made "curse."


 
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One!life > icemanlife: A Ponder few ponders 4 U!

May 21 2011, 11:49 AM 

icemanlife share'd > Author Reply Iceman(no login)
Whacking May 20 2011, 11:34 PM

Cutting foreskin off the penis has nothing to do with faith.

One!life > My respond to that is this:

Ponder: R U still carry'n (her-the story of the foreskin)!


TWO MONKS AND THE BEAUTIFUL WOMAN

An old monk and a young monk
were walking through a forest
when they came to a river bank
and saw a beautiful young woman
standing at the edge of the bank.

The woman told the monks
that she was afraid to cross the river
because she might slip
and be carried downstream.
She asked if one of the monks
might help her across.

Now it so happened that
these 2 monks were members of a sect
which practiced celibacy
and they had both taken vows
never to touch
a member of the opposite sex.
But the old monk,
sensing the extreme anxiety
of the young woman, lifted her
onto his back and carried her
to the other side of the river.

The young woman thanked him
and went on her way.
The 2 monks continued on their journey,
but the young monk was shocked
and disturbed at having seen
his older companion break his vow
so nonchalantly.

Finally, after 3 hours of walking
and thinking, he could contain himself
no longer and he burst out,
"Tell me, old man,
what did it feel like
to break your vow
of so many years?

What did it feel like
to allow sensuality to tempt you
from your spiritual path?

What did it feel like
to have her smooth
warm thighs wrapped around your waist,
her breasts brushing against your back,
her arms around your neck
and her soft cheek
almost one with your own?
Tell me, old man,
what is it like
to carry such a beautiful young woman?"

The older monk remained silent
for several steps and then said,
"It is you who should tell me
what it is like to carry
such a beautiful young woman.

You see I put her down
3 hours ago at the river,
but you are still carrying her."

One!life > icemanlife:
The share'n that I share'd (of the passage)
was to focus on the break'n, or not brake'n,
of the sabbath and or laws.

But you choose to focus, instead,
on what the forskin was all about.
Miss'n the point all together.

icemanlife share'd > Peoples of the southern islands
use Tatoos - far more sanitary and less barbaric.
Just a cultural thing.

One!life > Ponder: R not the laws,
in the bible a culture thing as well!
(as Jesus was try'n to point out, as well, Here:

{Matt.15:[1] Then came to Jesus
scribes and Pharisees,
which were of Jerusalem, saying,
[2] Why do thy disciples
transgress the tradition of the elders?
for they wash not their hands
when they eat bread.
3] But he answered and said unto them,
Why do ye also
transgress the commandment of God
by your tradition?
[6] And honour not his father
or his mother, he shall be free.
Thus have ye made
the commandment of God
of none effect by your tradition.
[10] And he called the multitude,
and said unto them,
Hear, and understand:
[11] Not that
which goeth into the mouth
defileth a man;
but that which cometh out
of the mouth, this defileth a man.
[12] Then came his disciples,
and said unto him, Knowest thou
that the Pharisees were offended,
after they heard this saying?
[13] But he answered and said, Every plant,
which my heavenly Father hath not planted,
shall be rooted up.
[14] Let them alone:
they be blind leaders of the blind.
And if the blind lead the blind,
both shall fall into the ditch.
[15] Then answered Peter
and said unto him,
Declare unto us this parable.
[16] And Jesus said, Are ye also yet
without understanding?
[17] Do not ye yet understand,
that whatsoever entereth in
at the mouth goeth into the belly,
and is cast out into the draught?
[18] But those things which proceed out
of the mouth come forth from the heart;
and they defile the man.
[19] For out of the heart
proceed evil thoughts,
murders, adulteries,
fornications, thefts,
false witness, blasphemies:
[20] These are the things
which defile a man:
but to eat with unwashen hands
defileth not a man.
[21] Then Jesus went thence,
and departed into the
coasts of Tyre and Sidon.}

You may not know this,
but U (and as)Jesus R on the same page,
here about the forskin.)

icemanlife share'd > None of the people
you mention from the bible
knew jesus.

One!life > Ponder: I'll become as U!

As paul said:
1Cor.9:8 Say I these things as a man?
or saith not the law the same also?
9:19 For though I be free from all men,
yet have I made myself servant unto all,
that I might gain the more.
9:20 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew,
that I might gain the Jews;
to them that are under the law,
as under the law,
that I might gain them
that are under the law;
9:21 To them that are without law,
as without law,
(being not without law to God,
but under the law to Christ,)
that I might gain them
that are without law.
9:22 To the weak became I as weak,
that I might gain the weak:
I am made all things to all men,
that I might by all means save some.

Your correct icemanlife, because there R no people
(there R only ONE! not many)!


icemanlife share'd > The passages just blow smoke.

One!life > That's an indian thing, right!
(to blow smoke - peace pipe, smoke'n!)

icemanlife share'd > Then again the entire bible is smoke.

One!life > Ponder: Isn't that what Jesus said,
so just whom R U icemanlife if not life!

John 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said,
17:19 Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law?
17:21 Jesus answered and said
17:22 Moses therefore gave unto you circumcision;
(not because it is of Moses, but of the fathers;)
and ye on the sabbath day circumcise a man.
17:23 If a man on the sabbath day receive circumcision,
that the law of Moses should not be broken;
are ye angry at me,
because I have made a man every whit whole on the sabbath day?
17:24 Judge not according to the appearance,
but judge righteous judgment.

Ponder: so just whom R U icemanlife if not life!
John 4:21 Jesus said 4:24 God is a "S"pirit
Romans 8:10 Spirit is life
John 14:6 Jesus said I am the life

Love Ya, icemanlife!

Love All as ONE!
One!life

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One!life > Ponder: Jesus put whom, in their places!
May 20 2011 at 7:09 PM One!life (no login)
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Ponder: Who put whom in their places!
John.7:16 Jesus answered them, and said,
7:19 Did not Moses give you the law,
and yet none of you keepeth the law?

{Law: (Stay in own place on sabbath)
Exod.16:28 And the LORD said unto Moses,
How long refuse ye
to keep my commandments
and my laws?
16:29 See, for that the LORD hath given you the sabbath,
therefore he giveth you on the sixth day
the bread of two days;
abide ye every man in his place,
let no man go out of his place
on the seventh day.

Law: (Stay in own place and do nothing on sabbath)
Exodus 20:1 And God spake all these words,
saying,20:2 I am the LORD thy God,

{20:4 Thou shalt not make
{Ezek 29:3 Thus saith the Lord GOD;
Pharaoh king of Egypt,
the great dragon

{Rev 12:9 And the great dragon
was cast out,
that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan,
which deceiveth the whole world:

{Ponder: the whole world v. the whole field:

Ponder: the Whole field:
Mattthew 13:36 Then Jesus
13:37 He answered and said
13:38 The field is the world;

Ponder: Whole world: (God so loved the world (field)

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said
15:19 If ye were of the world (field),
the world (field) would love his own world (field):

{Ponder: the world would love his own
John 3:16 For God so loved the world,

Ponder: Did God not so loved!
the world (God) would love his own (world)
the world field (God) would love his own (world)field (God)}

but because ye are not of the world (field),
but I have chosen you out of the world (field),
therefore the world (field) hateth you.

{Ponder: the world (field)Can not hate you:
John 7:6 Then Jesus said
7:7 The world (field) cannot hate you;

John 3:16 For God so loved the world,

John 13:1 Now before the feast of the passover,
when Jesus (God)(world-field) knew that his hour was come
that he should depart out of this world (field)(God)
unto the Father,
having loved his own (world (field)(God)
which were in the world (field) (God),

{Ponder: in world (field) (God):
John 14:9 Jesus saith
14:20 At that day ye shall know
that I am in my Father (in heaven) (God) (world) (field),

Ponder: {Father in heaven:
Matthew 23:1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude,
and to his disciples,
23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth:
for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

Ponder: God the Father (in heaven, whom Jesus is in):
John 6:26 Jesus answered them and said,
6:27 God the Father}

and ye in me (in heaven), and I in you (in the world (field). }

he loved (God so loved)them (world-field) unto the end.}

he was cast out into the earth,
and his angels were cast out with him.}

that lieth in the midst of his rivers,
which hath said,
My river is mine own,
and I have made it
for myself. }

unto thee,
"any likeness of any thing"

(Ponder: Does that include a child

Luke 2:23 (As it is written in the law of the Lord,
Every male
that openeth the womb

{Gen.30:22 And God remembered Rachel,
and God hearkened to her,
and opened her womb.}

shall be called holy to the Lord;)

{Luke 1:35 And the angel answered
and said unto her,
The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee,
and the power of the Highest
shall overshadow thee:
therefore also that holy thing
which shall be born of thee
shall be called the Son of God.} )

that is in heaven above,
or that is in the earth beneath,
or that is in the water under the earth:}

20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God:
in it thou shalt not do any work,
thou, (Adam-he-her-them-their-they)

{Gen.5:2 Male and female created he them;
and blessed them,
and called their name Adam,
in the day when they were created.}

nor thy son,
nor thy daughter,
thy manservant,
nor thy maidservant,
nor thy cattle,
nor thy stranger
that is within thy gates:

7:22 Moses therefore gave unto you circumcision;
(not because it is of Moses, but of the fathers;)
and ye on the sabbath day circumcise a man.

7:23 If a man on the sabbath day
receive circumcision,
that the law of Moses
should not be broken;

are ye angry at me,
because I have made a man
every whit whole
on the sabbath day?

7:24 Judge not
according to the appearance,
but judge righteous judgment.

Ponder: If they had been in their own placed,
who would they know waht the disciple did!
Matt.12
[2] But when the Pharisees saw it,
they said unto him,
Behold, thy disciples do that
which is not lawful
to do upon the sabbath day.

Luke.6
[2] And certain of the Pharisees
said unto them,
Why do ye that
which is not lawful to do
on the sabbath days?

John.5
[10] The Jews therefore said unto him
that was cured,
It is the sabbath day:
it is not lawful
for thee to carry thy bed.

More Later,

Love All ONE!
One!life


 
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