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30 Qs Rs X 2 A - 05

October 12 2011 at 12:57 AM

JVH say  (Login JVH)

 

The nature of an answer is such that it directly addresses the intrinsic value of what the question entails. When a purported answer does not, then it's a response - not an answer. The inability or unwillingness to answer a question however, is - by implication - an answer too.


30 Questions Religionists Fail To Answer

 

"On the fourth day there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night." (1:14)

But didn't God create light and separated it from darkness and name them day and night on the first day already? (1:3-5)

 

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rejected and denied by many, accepted and embraced by few : incontrovertibility
- it is not what we (think we) know that matters, it is what we can show true that does
as the maxim demands; truth is demonstrably fact and fact is demonstrably true
everything else ... mere BS -


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Tim
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Your stupid JVH

October 12 2011, 1:25 AM 

You DEVOTE your life to stupidity.

Jesus in LIFE.

Do I know? What you will never know?

Bro Tim


 
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Jackie
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JVH and Doc are questioning, Tim

October 12 2011, 3:16 AM 

Never knock a person for that. If we believe we know it all, we stagnate. There is always going to be things to learn and to question. That keeps us ALIVE and FRESH!

Of course, no one need answer any questions. That is the choice. But let them ask.

Hey, you can ask as well!

Tim, I hope this night (for you - 8:00am here) brings you peace and calm and Love.

Pumpkin
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A little gift for you, a poem by John of the Cross.
(A gift for myself as well, cos it makes me feel so warm. wink.gif)


Love's Living Flame

O Love's living flame,
Tenderly you wound
My soul's deepest center!
Since you no longer evade me,
Will you, please, at last conclude:
Rend the veil of this sweet encounter!

O cautery so tender!
O pampered wound!
O soft hand! O touch so delicately strange,
Tasting of eternal life
And canceling all debts!
Killing, death into life you change!

O lamps of fiery lure,
In whose shining transparence
The deep cavern of the senses,
Blind and obscure,
Warmth and light, with strange flares,
Gives with the lover's caresses!

How tame and loving
Your memory rises in my breast,
Where secretly only you live,
And in your fragrant breathing,
Full of goodness and grace,
How delicately in love you make me feel!


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Not too many Moments like this, but one does not forget them.

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JVH say
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JVH and Doc are questioning

October 12 2011, 3:42 AM 

 

http://www.network54.com/Forum/272761/message/1317118108/Yeah




rejected and denied by many, accepted and embraced by few : incontrovertibility
- it is not what we (think we) know that matters, it is what we can show true that does
as the maxim demands; truth is demonstrably fact and fact is demonstrably true
everything else ... mere BS -


New!! Improved!! Now With CD-Formula!!
[linked image]

CD: short for inevitability

 
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Tim
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Its about time YOUR MASTER shows up

October 12 2011, 1:30 AM 

or one of his little ones like you JVH.

Tim


 
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Tim
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Lets ROCK DOC and JVH

October 12 2011, 1:40 AM 

Your both a couple of stupid idiots.

Your fucked happy.gif

Time will tell.

Don't make it now, because you will not win.

Bro Tim.

FUCKING PISS ME OFF!!!!!!!!!!!


 
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Doc Strange
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Oh the drama...

October 12 2011, 8:34 AM 

Tim said: Your both a couple of stupid idiots.

I don't think that about you, Tim. I don't think you're stupid. Just misinformed.

Your fucked

If "not being fucked" means having to live my life glorifying myths and legends and believing in childish, immature things like imaginary friends, then I'm quite happy to be "fucked".

Time will tell.

Yes it will. And when you reach the end of your life, and you realize that there's nothing after that, and that you've wasted your life believing in fairy tales and nonsense....

But then again, you won't even be aware of it. You'll simply cease to exist.

You may be right, and there could be an afterlife that entry into would require groveling before a cosmic, supernatural dictator. But I haven't seen any evidence of this, and I just gotta go by the evidence at hand.

Don't make it now, because you will not win.

Win what?

FUCKING PISS ME OFF!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm sorry to hear that, but that is not my intention. I'm simply telling it as I see it. Would you prefer I lie to you as you are lying to yourself?

If my being honest pisses you off, then... well... that's unfortunate.


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"We are each free to believe what we want, and it's my view that the simplest explanation is: There is no god. No one created the Universe, and no one directs our fate. This leads me to a profound realization; there is probably no heaven and no afterlife, either. We have this one life to appreciate the grand design of the Universe. And for that, I am extremely grateful." -- Professor Stephen Hawking, cosmologist

 
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Doc....

October 13 2011, 10:44 PM 

you are very cool....wink.gif

a little 'strange'...but very cool....wink.gif

have a great weekend.

g

 
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Doc Strange
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Thank you, Sir

October 14 2011, 9:40 AM 

... and back atcha. happy.gif

Have a great weekend, and enjoy this beautiful Autumn! happy.gif

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"We are each free to believe what we want, and it's my view that the simplest explanation is: There is no god. No one created the Universe, and no one directs our fate. This leads me to a profound realization; there is probably no heaven and no afterlife, either. We have this one life to appreciate the grand design of the Universe. And for that, I am extremely grateful." -- Professor Stephen Hawking, cosmologist

 
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Doc Strange
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A relevant quote

October 12 2011, 8:18 AM 

"No gods, no masters." -- Margaret Sanger

Sorry Tim, your imaginary friend is the master of no one, not even you. Your superstitious dogma is the only thing that is master over you.

And that is self-inflicted.

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"We are each free to believe what we want, and it's my view that the simplest explanation is: There is no god. No one created the Universe, and no one directs our fate. This leads me to a profound realization; there is probably no heaven and no afterlife, either. We have this one life to appreciate the grand design of the Universe. And for that, I am extremely grateful." -- Professor Stephen Hawking, cosmologist

 
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it would be nice

October 12 2011, 10:51 AM 

if you atheists didn't always QUOTE somebody else as being more relevant than a quote from Jesus:

I mean, what? they are your god? your master?

you can't think for yourselves ????

if you really don't believe in other gods

try coming up with all originol ideas and thoughts........ignore all but your own

see how far you get:

 
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Iceman
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Re:it would be nice

October 12 2011, 12:05 PM 

I understand your thoughts on this, however, you might ask yourself how original is Jesus, or God for that matter.

Certainly NOTHING original there.

 
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:)

October 12 2011, 1:24 PM 

so who else do you know of that speaks things the Bible says?

I mean I showed it all comes from ancient SUMER and EGYPT yesterday, but the Bible says "in the last days' God speaks directly to us through his Son.......because now its more than just the WRITINGS about these things that were from the beginning

but these writings are made FLESH in our heart and mind:

that means religion is overcome by the reality of what is written:


if in fact people claim this to be so for them

a lot of Christians are still in the believing stage and the problem with believing only

is that you MIX your own ideas with the GOSPEL (what is written) and that makes for a HUGE MESS

as we see with all the battles between the religious with one another:

 
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Doc Strange
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Re: it would be nice

October 13 2011, 10:07 AM 

Yvonne said: if you atheists didn't always QUOTE somebody else as being more relevant than a quote from Jesus

The people I quote ARE more relevant than Jesus. They actually exist.

I mean, what? they are your god? your master?

No, but that's a nice strawman argument.

It is not wrong to learn something from others who have had more experience in life's journey.

you can't think for yourselves ????

I'm an atheist because I thought for myself. Give it a try. You'll find it enlightening.

if you really don't believe in other gods

try coming up with all originol ideas and thoughts........ignore all but your own


I speak for myself on a daily basis.

Besides, what does not believing in imaginary gods have to do with me gleaning knowledge from other people?

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"We are each free to believe what we want, and it's my view that the simplest explanation is: There is no god. No one created the Universe, and no one directs our fate. This leads me to a profound realization; there is probably no heaven and no afterlife, either. We have this one life to appreciate the grand design of the Universe. And for that, I am extremely grateful." -- Professor Stephen Hawking, cosmologist

 
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