most people, even Christians don't understand what "only begotten" Son means:
Jesus explains in John 16 when he explains about the TRAVAIL OF THE WOMAN
Jhn 16:19 Now Jesus knew that they were desirous to ask him, and said unto them, Do ye enquire among yourselves of that I said, A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me?
Jhn 16:20 Verily, verily, I say unto you, That ye shall weep and lament, but the world shall rejoice: and ye shall be sorrowful, but your sorrow shall be turned into joy.
Jhn 16:21 A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come: but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world.
Jhn 16:22 And ye now therefore have sorrow: but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no man taketh from you.
here is what you should pay attention to..........ask the HOLY SPIRIT to give you a witness of it if you don't believe me:
ME: the reason they shall have JOY no man can take from them is because the Lord whom they walked with now IS BORN (begotten) through them: Here is the mystery of godliness; here is the Lord become FLESH, here is Emmanuel, God with us: The one outside is born inside and here this child shall lead them into all truth:
Jhn 16:23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give [it] you.
Jhn 16:24 Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.
so Jesus is BEGOTTEN THROUGH his people............hence Jesus Christ the SAME YESTERDAY
he always comes the same way
saves the same way
overcomes the same way
transforms the same way
if you understand this spiritual concept as a 'reality' then you know what the whole Bible is about:
God is born through the heart which turns it from stone to flesh:
the stony heart is a heart ruled by the law instead of the spirit:
since no heart could keep the law it didn't give life to the heart, but the spirit does give life to the heart
in order for the spirit to get to the heart it has to be BORN within it, begotten through it and when this happens, it is called SPIRITUAL LIFE or Christ within the heart........
and this roles the STONE away and Man resurrects from the sepluchre he is buried in:
in this case the MAN is Jesus Christ who comes forth from our heart when the stone of our heart is rolled away:
this is why you won't find Jesus Christ in history unless it is YOUR OWN history and then it is "HIS STORY" in you
there is no other way to be saved........
no other way to MOVE to the next level of existence which is another dimension, anothe level of life that is not felt or heard or experienced while the heart is stony:
what does it say about the stony heart? I will bring Mark 4 for a witness:
here is the teaching to the 'great multitude' (which is when the whole world called the "kingdoms of this world" hears him):
this is a parable about the Word sown in the heart which has four levels of reception: Only the deep and good ground receives the Seed and is able to bring forth the "new Man" and Kingdom (30, 60, 100 fold) :
the 30 fold is the new and good will that comes forth first and this is the "Christ" born in us: From here this 'good will" grows into a new heart (60 fold) and then a new mind or the whole Kingdom (100 fold):
read why the seed needs to fall deep to bring forth the Christ:
Mar 4:1 ¶ And he began again to teach by the sea side: and there was gathered unto him a great multitude, so that he entered into a ship, and sat in the sea; and the whole multitude was by the sea on the land.
Mar 4:2 And he taught them many things by parables, and said unto them in his doctrine,
Mar 4:3 Hearken; Behold, there went out a sower to sow:
Mar 4:4 And it came to pass, as he sowed, some fell by the way side, and the fowls of the air came and devoured it up.
Mar 4:5 And some fell on stony ground, where it had not much earth; and immediately it sprang up, because it had no depth of earth:
Mar 4:6 But when the sun was up, it was scorched; and because it had no root, it withered away.
Mar 4:7 And some fell among thorns, and the thorns grew up, and choked it, and it yielded no fruit.
Mar 4:8 And other fell on good ground, and did yield fruit that sprang up and increased; and brought forth, some thirty, and some sixty, and some an hundred.
Mar 4:9 And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
NOTICE when Jesus explains the truth of the parable??
when he is alone with his disciples: When they are not part of the great big multitude:
Mar 4:10 ¶ And when he was alone, they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable.
Mar 4:11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all [these] things are done in parables:
Mar 4:12 That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and [their] sins should be forgiven them.
Mar 4:13 ¶ And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables?
Me: Jesus is saying if you DO NOT understand this parable, you will NOT understand any of them:
on the other hand if you understand this one, you will UNDERSTAND all of them: SO Im telling you but will you hear? do you have ears/spiritual ones to hear??
Jesus explains it to those who are alone with him:
Mar 4:14 The sower soweth the word.
Mar 4:15 And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.
ME; those who are outside of the 'way' and they don't get to even receive it much less have it grow in them: Satan (the spirit of this world) will immediately take it away.......
Mar 4:16 And these are they likewise which are sown on stony ground; who, when they have heard the word, immediately receive it with gladness;
Me; the stony ground of the heart hear and receive it with gladness but something happens............
Mar 4:17 And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended.
ME: the lack of the revealed root (Christ is the holy root that has to grow from the dry ground to become a tree of life within them) but these don't have this root revealed yet: So even when their heart hears and they endure for a time, ultimately affliction and persecution for the WORDS SAKE arises and they are immediately offended, stumbled:
Mar 4:18 And these are they which are sown among thorns; such as hear the word,
ME; the thorns are the carnal mind (which is what Jesus took on himself as a crown around his head to bear the sins of this mind) ;
when the carnal mind hears the word........
Mar 4:19 And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.
Me; the world just is too much competition for the carnal mind:
Mar 4:20 And these are they which are sown on good ground; such as hear the word, and receive [it], and bring forth fruit, some thirtyfold, some sixty, and some an hundred.
ME; the depth of the heart is where the 'good ground' is found which is why the virgin is that good ground within our heart that NEVER knew a man or the carnal mind or the evil part of the heart: HERE if the word enters, it will grow into the tree of life, into the Savior within us:
and he will save his people from their sins because he becomes the "KING" (new will, good will) born in us to bring PEACE on earth:
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So how do you explain this as a historical fact about how God the Father created Jesus as HIS begotten Son?
4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee?
And before it was revealed in the NT Jesus was declared to be revealed in the future. (I will declare the decree)
7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
And now Jesus has been revealed to us.
What do you make of this Sis Yvonne?
Or do you think its talking about us?
And are we supposed to become Jesus the Christ?
5 So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.
Jesus told Matthew and Mark....
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
Marks version of what Jesus warned about....
21 And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not:
22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
23 But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.
If you address what I've asked and shown in this post Yvonne I'll be amazed.
when the first person experienced the birth of Christ it was the beginning of the new revealtion of JESUS (the salvation of Yahweh) within Man's heart:
since this came through a virgin from the house of David (beloved) from the house of Judah, who was intersected with Joseph (Jacobs son), the EXPERIENCE of the NEW life began:
while it doesn't matter who this is in the flesh.........we know it was called "DAVID" after the flesh; hence the heart after Gods own heart is what this name represents:
this is why we see him as the "Son of David" as well as the Son of God:
and David too is not a person but a code name in persons who have this experience hence to the Philadelphia church (love of the brothers) they are given the KEY of David" that which opens what none can open and shut what none can shut
what it opens is the HEART...........which is why it is written JUDAH SHALL PLOW
meaning the code name Judah (Praise of Yah) is the plower.....to the depth of the heart and it is written 'the LORD inhabits the praises of his people"
then everytime from there that someone gave birth to Christ from that deep part of the HEART, the WORD was added unto .......till now...............in these last days when ISRAEL and JUDAH will be revealed in the world
but the MEANING of these things kept hidden from the foundation of the world:
as for believing that Christ is found anywhere but within ones heart is impossible:
when Christ is born in us the Kingdom comes to us, hence Jesus said if he comes casting out devils then you know the Kingdom is come upon you
and we know that Kingdom is within and not out there
when th 70 were sent out with this message because they had this experience, Jesus said HE SAW SATAN fall as lightening from heaven
he sees it within those who have the experience of Jesus
the Son of Man comes like lightening from the east (revelation) to west (the sea or subconscious) and falls to the earth.........our earthly consciousness
no longer in the inner heavens where he sits as the antichrist in our heart
till Christ comes to cast him out, every person is ruled by the spirit of the world which is the antichrist:
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he who has wisdom can interpret that number but what is wisdom?
the fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom
wisdom comes through the judgment seat of Christ, which happens when a person has experienced the birth of Christ..............he goes into judgment within two years
this is the meaning of Herod killing Rachels children under two: Rachel means 'sheep" and these are the desires for God in us:
the desires for God endure judgement in other words, hence judgment must come first to the house of God and Israel is that house and that house is OUR HEART
hence the heart goes into judgment once Christ is born within the GOOD PART OF IT, the virgin part which is called David
the heart is like a beast till the time is made NEW and it is made NEW when the Messiah is born here in the good part........the part that is "favored by God" for this event since he KEPT IT FROM the part that is man, hence Mary never knew a man (the word know means union):
it is literally true that there is a part of us that remained innocent till the fullness of time but we don't know about this part and this part has nothing to do with the rest of us, like our carnal mind:
the mark of the beast is for the carnal mind; it goes into judgment at the coming of Jesus Christ through the heart because as the parable in Mark 4 showed, most of the heart is all about the 'world, the carnal mind and the law' so it is judged
this mark is the judgment on Cains forehead that God put there for that time when he would be judged; Only God gets to kill the carnal mind, no other person is allowed to kill the ego or carnal mind......same thing:
Proverbs 74 the writer explains when he entered the sancturay of God (the inner court or heart he knew he was but a beast before God):
the person is not yet MAN till he gets the mark of the beast.....which is the NUMBER of a MAN which is 666...........
in Greek this is called the chi xi stigma (and these three letters represnt the "CROSS") the beast (serpent) is crucified with Christ so he can become "MAN" with Jesus Christ, hence Satans house is divided here at the cross (the two thieves)
and half of him goes with JESUS to Paradise because this part repents
and the other part goes back down to the earth to be judged.............
and we see this with Paul who was apprehended by Jesus and taken to Paradise to KNOW THIS MAN
and yet he was also cast from the heavens like a falling star that fell like figs from a fig tree (Israel goes into judgment which is the heart that goes into Judgment)
the part that goes down to earth buffets Paul and he asks God three times, please take these messengers of Satan away from him but God says MY GRACE IS SUFFICIENT and my strength is made perfect in YOUR weakness: The joy of the Lord is our strength:
so it goes for the heart..........it is pierced and separated unto the gospel and it is judged till it becomes the house of God completely............till the race is run and the Heart can become the LIGHT for the nations hence we see Paul sent to the nations to bring the light he receives from Christ in him to them
the hidden part is that Paul is also the nations because he is a Roman citizen as well, showing that Israel is revealed in the END TIME within the gentile natures
this is one of the mysteries of the gospel revealed in the end times
the other is the mystery of iniquity (the ego rule for six days or 6000 years and then is destroyed by God at the coming of Christ)
and the mystery of godliness is that GOD HIMSELF is born in our heart to FIX it and to become the light within it to enlighten our mind, give us a NEW MIND as well
in Hebrew 666 is LIFE because the number 18 is life........and they add these numbers
interpreted in Hebrew letters it is the 600 or the closed MEM which happens at the coming of Messiah in the deep part of us:
the 60 or Samech which is Ezekiels wheel withing the wheel or our soul within Gods Spirit, the wedding ring
and 6 or VOV is the middle letter of YHVH's name which is the LETTER for "MAN" part of his name.........the VOV being the part that holds the YH (Godhead) and the final "H" (Kingdom) together...........as ONE
hope that helps a little:
the number 666 then is judgment on the ego and LIFE FOR THE SOUL in Christ JESUS:
these are separated unto the gospel...........one dies the other finds ETERNAL LIFE
the buying and selling has to do with the separation at judgment
Jesus tells the rich man to sell all he has (all the riches "ego" he has) and take up his cross (his tree of knowledge of good and evil) and FOLLOW Jesus Christ to the place of the skull(Adam's dead bone) where the transformation happens between the death (ego makes us dead) and life (the soul finds life here in the resurrection)
and to Laodecia he explains BUY OF HIM gold tried by fire, eyesalve to see, and white garment to cover her nakedness:
this is the final candlestick/church and the star (Israel are the stars/angels in the first resurrection) who have to bring this light to the churches.......and here the Laodecians (people in judgment) are the nations......
they think they already have everything.........but it comes through Israel (the heart) being MADE NEW and the heart is made new by Jesus Christ in the midst of it helping the angles to fix the heart........and mind (Laodecia represents the part of the heart that connects to the mind of the nations that need to LINE UP with the heart (the first six candlesticks):
the MIND needs to see what the corrected heart "knows" and gold (LOVE) is tried by fire and the white robe (righteousness) must be PUT ON, hence PUT ON the Lord Jesus Christ as the COVER.......over the nature, hence love covers a multitude of sins:
so buying and selling is the soul who has to sell its EGO (its life) to receive the LIFE of Jesus Christ......buy of him):
I don't eat meat or DAIRY so I won't need a mark to buy milk:
I wasn't taught by any Rabbi but Jesus Christ who was born in me in 1990 and two years later I received the mark of beast, I was crucified with Christ and separated unto the gospel like Paul was so my soul could be saved and the body of sin could be destroyed:
I experienced the mark of the beast 20 years ago and it killed me and gave me life at the same time: There is no more fear about what the world can do to me or its spirit the antichrist: My body is here but my soul (heart and mind) is seated with Christ in heavenly places....so when I put off this mortal body I will have fully put on my IMORTAL body and live in my new form that was reserved for me in heaven where it already exists as me: I saw myself in my new body 20 years ago:
heaven and earth are ONE in the next level of existence:
the Bible is not for people but for the 'sons of God' who are begotten of God through Jesus Christ born in them making them ONE with himself:
Jesus said "I AM the resurrection and life and whosoever believes in me though he is dead shall live........Martha said we know that you will raise them the last day"
Jesus brings the last day........he is the end of the ego and the beginning of a NEW LIFE, in which the consciousness moves from carnal or sensual to a higher level of BEING that has spiritual senses.
Jesus added if one is alive in that day they shall never die...........and I am alive on that day..............my last generation of being a purely sensual being:
one who is RAISED to life (lives in a higher state of consciousness) doesn't depend on the worldly consciousness any longer: So no matter what happens here, it has nothing to do with them anymore:
I was led to Rabbi Laitman 6 years "AFTER" my experience to give me a witness of its imminant reality all over the earth: I heard him because I had the EXPERIENCE he is trying so hard to encourage his people to have, which is to RISE ABOVE the sensual level:
If I had run accross him prior to my OWN experience of what he is working day and night to bring to others, I would never have stopped to take note of him at all since a Christian doesn't listen to teachings that have nothing SEEMINGLY to do without considering Jesus Christ:
but because I had the experience the Rabbi is constantly talking about bringing his people into, I can vouch that it is real and that he is working for the RIGHT thing in trying to get them to RISE above their ego,their carnal sensual mind: HERE they will find a NEW LIFE while still in the body, but no longer feel it is anything but a 'clothing' for the carnal mind while the new body is the clothing for the SPIRITUAL MIND: Hence Jesus Christs garments were torn into four pieces at the cross:
the four pieces are the NAME OF YHVH (everything I speak of is through experience of my own and not ANY OTHER PERSON): The outer garment of Jesus Christ is "MAN" while the INNER garment is Christ and this is NOT DIVIDED since it is the "MEDIUM" for making the NEW and LAST ADAM, our new consciousness:
Christians spent too much time trying to have both worlds the last 2000 years and the LIGHT has shifted from Christianity back to Judaism now to gather Israel from the FOUR corners of the earth to RAPTURE THEM to heavenly places.......READ the book of Revelation ........and compare it to Romans 11.......its all there:
the time of the nations is over.............the door to them is closed for the PERSONAL RAPTURE which I experienced in 1992.......when I was lifted up with Christ to heavenly places to be seated there with him till their enemies are made their footstool:
when this happens, it means the Philadelphia Church is getting its light which happened by 1995 ........receiving the "KEY OF DAVID" (the birth of Messiah) through the soul of David:
now it is the time of Laodecia, the judgment of the nations:
while God opened the windows of heaven to Israel (read Malachai) and sent the spirit of Elijah to bring ISRAEL to repentance...........returning to the root of their soul which is Christ........Jesus said he was the ROOT OF DAVID
the nations will receive the light that comes from this VISITATION of Israel from Jesus Christ born in the heart....of David/Mary: Then the whole house of Israel scattered to the four corners of the earth is gathered to Judah (Read Genesis 49, Israel in the last days)
and the nations will receive LIGHT through them:
in other words Jesus Christ visists Israel first...........before the nations will see him...........THROUGH them............his people, his saints, read Deuteronomy 32 and 33
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you will not hear me.........no matter how many more times I explain it clearly from my own experience PROVEN by the Bible (which nobody has been able to disprove for me in 20 years):
you will continue to say things to me about what I do and believe and who I follow and how I INTERNALIZE reality (as though science hasn't proven it is all perception) and you will ignore what you do NOT understand through YOUR OWN experience of the Bible;
it is a hidden code to help people seek for a higher reality but for the most part, the EGO OF MAN has EXTERNALIZED this as history and destroyed many many people in the process making religion one of the 'meanest' things in the world today:
it is also a way for many people to live better lives but even here, Christians are dividing reality into 'here' and 'there' meaning heaven is somewhere else for another time
while Jesus clearly explains the "kingdom of heaven is within you"
hows that for internalizing?///
findind and entering the INNER Kingdom is not possible without becoming a child (meaning you go back in CONSCIOUSNESS to a TIME before the ego was developed around 2 years of age, when the WORLD became your reality instead of your OWN experience of LIFE in the body, of the earth......
this is the life you find when you enter the KINGDOM............your body begins to teach you about the EARTH that has NOTHING to do with the "world" and all its crap:
believe it or not
the body is NATURE........and it is connected to the earth, to nature,while the ego is connected to the world' its systems and ways of experiencing reality that pretty much can IGNORE NATURE (body and the earth):
the world is passing away Tim, the world is ruled by antichrist, by the egoistic spirit of mankind that is not meant to last more than six days......6000 years, the exile from Eden:
once the exile is over, the "mystery of iniquity" which is the ego, will be revealed along with the "mystery of godliness" which is the birth of Messiah in the heart and the mystery of the gospel which is that Israel is the heart of the nations scattered till all nations are part of the heart.........at which TIME the Messiah VISITS Israel and brings LIGHT to the nations through their being engrafted into the NATURAL branches of the TREE of LIFE:
we are here.............don't miss this time like the Jews first did 2000 years ago when it all began:
because now it is all ENDING hence after TWO DAYS (2000 years) I will LIFT THEM UP (here is being taken out of Egypt, being crucified with Christ) which the book of Revelation tells us is a spiritual place called Egypt and Sodom:
and the THIRD DAY (7000th year) they will STAND in my SIGHT:
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going to leave you with this and then leave you alone lolol
July 26 2012, 10:49 AM
I just wrote this today for my forum but it seems to apply if you hear it....if not then understand that it is not for you.........its that simple:
here is what I wrote in response to someone else::
truly the old falls away when we focus on the New........and focus is the work of the 'mind'.........to renew the mind:
the heart is a different matter........here the experience is reality, hence the experience of God through Jesus Christ gives the 'mind' the truth to focus on:
if you don't have the personal experience in the heart, then the 'authored faith' of Jesus Christ in us is sufficient to bring us a new heart.......from faith to faith...........
only God however can make a new heart and God is only interested in this hence it is written God looks to the heart.........(desire)......to perfect this in his people;
not all are the heart of the body but all will benefit from it hence Israel (heart) is the light for the nations (mind):
the nations only need faith since this too is from above, from the Lord to them...........and their faith is sufficient to save
but the heart is the 'breach' between heaven and earth (God and mind) and this breach is corrected, fixed, and closed by Israel, the repairers of the breach
while ultimately they are also saved by faith it is the "faith of the Son of God" in the heart............saved "BY" faith........while the nations are saved "through" faith:
both are important and Israel gains the faith of the nations and the nations gain the faith of Israel which is above reason, while the nations have faith below reason:
this means the nations are given faith before they see
but Israel is given faith "BECAUSE THEY SEE"..............who is more blessed?
Jesus said the nations were more blessed............because they don't have to WORK to enter their rest.............but Israel must work to enter their rest
their work is to correct the heart of the body so the blood can flow from God to Man...........
its like mankind is an image a vain shew, but not "like" God in that man has no heart like Gods heart................no compassion for the suffering of other
this is the point of this whole journey............for God to make a heart...........so his body can be below as above..........
like Frank said ........about the Holiday Inn (funny:) ) believing by faith is great........and it is.........it is the saving grace we receive to continue the journey no matter how difficult
but what the nations believe and receive through faith, has to be CREATED through the WORK of Israel ............which is why Jesus is the "King of Israel" and the King of the Jews and why salvation is of the Jew........because these represent the heart, hence David wants a heart like God...........this is Gods beloved, his choice as King.....
receiving the "Key of David" means one has gotten to the place where faith in God isn't enough.........they want to "KNOW" him as they are known
and knowing is the work of the heart...........hence the 'HEART that understands KNOWLEDGE" is the work of Israel...........
now granted, they too will NEED faith in the end that their work is finished.............and only God seems to know when this work is finished in Israel even as it was finished by God from the foundation of the world:
what was Gods part?
to make a WAY for the TRUTH to LIVE in LOVE in Mankind..........and that is finished
but for mankind to receive that love and truth and live in it, walk in it...........requires a new heart.........(Israel) and a new mind (Nations) from the light (blood) flowing from God through the heart to the mind:
this is why Israel has to go through three temples............the first two are destroyed............and only the third one lasts forever since it is the temple of God (the heart) his house of prayer for the nations and the whole world
Israel have to take on seven times more sin than the nations, hence they inherit the sins of the nations to help Christ in his work for the world:
Paul explains God is severe on Israel and merciful to the nations because they don't know better........they don't know the work of the heart that is built by the law of God (stony heart)
the stony heart has to be rolled away at the resurrection of Jesus Christ within that point in the heart (manchild) that rises with Christ to heaven to sit with him till he makes his enemies his footstool
maybe roy and John and others who are working out their salvation with diligence and scrutiny and discernments of spirits are Israel
while those who see by faith everything completed (they see themselves as always blessed no matter what they do or have done) are the nations who receive the light flowing from the heart to them
but if Israel didn't do the work, the nations wouldn't get that light to be blessed by, hence Abraham the father of many nations is blessed and he is a blessing
there are two tribes of Israel that do a particular work, Joseph and Judah, hence we see these represented as the heart that brings the Messiah............who is of Judah and also Joseph (this is why Joseph becomes the husband of Mary but he doesn't KNOW her till after Christ is born:
this means God brings the house of Judah and Joseph together through the Messiah at which time they will know each other............but that is also when all Israel becomes revealed within that heart:
and this heart then endures the correction from the Messiah, from Jesus Christ for the whole world.............
its all about fixing the heart..............
so if one is Israel they will seem to be concerned about things the nations just don't talk about or think about and they look it all as the PAST.........but that is just their perception of reality
there is no past in the spiritual world, ONLY NOW..........its all happening NOW..............even though the works were finished from the foundation of the world
the foundation of the world is CHRIST in the heart...........the heart is the world that begins as wicked above all things, as the desire of antichrist, the spirit of the world in every soul who is excersised by the cross and Israel is that soul:
so Paul explains, don't boast yourself above Israel because they bear the root of the tree of life
if they don't fix their part, the nations won't get what they are WAITING FOR through faith.............meaning they will wait and wait and wait for the Lord to come in their experience and die waiting
only the heart brings the blood to the nations and Christ is the blood that comes out with water when it is pierced.............
it says his side was pierced but it was his pleura and that is the lungs behind which is the heart hence both the water and blood come through that part.......its like getting two organs from one pierce:
water and blood
water is the word and blood is the Holy Spirit
so faith that is authored in the nations is finished in Israel, in the heart so that the glory of God revealed to Israel also becomes revealed in the nations through that light flowing through them:
the heart is both the priesthood and the place for the King hence a ROYAL and HOLY priesthood:
Aaron (John the Baptist) receives the witness of Jesus hence he is the spirit of prophecy that builds the house of God, the heart as an oracle of God:
as he builds, he decreases and Christ in the house Increases since it is given to the priest to receive Christ to give to the world:
Elizabeth (daughter of seven/oath) is visited by Mary for that reason first since she represents the seven candlesticks/churches that are lit by the coming of Christ in her house:
read and ask for discernment of how these things work in Israel (heart) so that you can understand how you get the light to whole body:
rog says he is not part of the body anymore so this does not apply to him, so no need to tell me of that rog........this is not for you but only for those to whom it applies to
if you are not part of the heart then it doesn't matter if you understand it or not
just live by the faith that is authored in you and you will receive all the blessings that others are working to prepare for you;
Isa 27:6 He shall cause them that come of Jacob to take root: Israel shall blossom and bud, and fill the face of the world with fruit.
Rom 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.
Rom 11:9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:
Rom 11:10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.
Rom 11:11 ¶ I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but [rather] through their fall salvation [is come] unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
Rom 11:12 Now if the fall of them [be] the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?
Rom 11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
Rom 11:14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation [them which are] my flesh, and might save some of them.
Rom 11:15 For if the casting away of them [be] the reconciling of the world, what [shall] the receiving [of them be], but life from the dead?
Rom 11:16 For if the firstfruit [be] holy, the lump [is] also [holy]: and if the root [be] holy, so [are] the branches.
Rom 11:17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
Rom 11:18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
Rom 11:19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
Rom 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
Rom 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, [take heed] lest he also spare not thee.
Rom 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in [his] goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
Rom 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural [branches], be graffed into their own olive tree?
Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this [is] my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, [they are] enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, [they are] beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God [are] without repentance.
Rom 11:30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
Rom 11:31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
Rom 11:32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
Rom 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable [are] his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
Rom 11:34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?
Rom 11:35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?
Rom 11:36 For of him, and through him, and to him, [are] all things: to whom [be] glory for ever. Amen.
Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth [in] righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
Isa 45:24 Surely, shall [one] say, in the LORD have I righteousness and strength: [even] to him shall [men] come; and all that are incensed against him shall be ashamed.
Isa 45:25 In the LORD shall all the seed of Israel be justified, and shall glory.
Isa 46:12 ¶ Hearken unto me, ye stouthearted, that [are] far from righteousness:
Isa 46:13 I bring near my righteousness; it shall not be far off, and my salvation shall not tarry: and I will place salvation in Zion for Israel my glory.
Luk 1:39 ¶ And Mary arose in those days, and went into the hill country with haste, into a city of Juda;
Luk 1:40 And entered into the house of Zacharias, and saluted Elisabeth.
Luk 1:41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost:
Luk 1:42 And she spake out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed [art] thou among women, and blessed [is] the fruit of thy womb.
Luk 1:43 And whence [is] this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?
Luk 1:44 For, lo, as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears, the babe leaped in my womb for joy.
Luk 1:45 And blessed [is] she that believed: for there shall be a performance of those things which were told her from the Lord.
Luk 1:46 ¶ And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord,
Luk 1:47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.
Luk 1:48 For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.
Luk 1:49 For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy [is] his name.
Luk 1:50 And his mercy [is] on them that fear him from generation to generation.
Luk 1:51 He hath shewed strength with his arm; he hath scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts.
Luk 1:52 He hath put down the mighty from [their] seats, and exalted them of low degree.
Luk 1:53 He hath filled the hungry with good things; and the rich he hath sent empty away.
Luk 1:54 He hath holpen his servant Israel, in remembrance of [his] mercy;
Luk 1:55 As he spake to our fathers, to Abraham, and to his seed for ever.
Luk 1:56 And Mary abode with her about three months, and returned to her own house.
Luk 2:25 ¶ And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name [was] Simeon; and the same man [was] just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the Holy Ghost was upon him.
Luk 2:26 And it was revealed unto him by the Holy Ghost, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord's Christ.
Luk 2:27 And he came by the Spirit into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him after the custom of the law,
Luk 2:28 Then took he him up in his arms, and blessed God, and said,
Luk 2:29 Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word:
Luk 2:30 For mine eyes have seen thy salvation,
Luk 2:31 Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people;
Luk 2:32 A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel.
Luk 2:33 And Joseph and his mother marvelled at those things which were spoken of him.
Luk 2:34 And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this [child] is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against;
Luk 2:35 (Yea, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed.
1Jo 5:1 ¶ Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
1Jo 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jo 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
1Jo 5:4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, [even] our faith.
1Jo 5:5 Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
1Jo 5:6 ¶ This is he that came by water and blood, [even] Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
1Jo 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
1Jo 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
1Jo 5:9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
1Jo 5:10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
1Jo 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
1Jo 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; [and] he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
1Jo 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
1Jo 5:14 ¶ And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:
1Jo 5:15 And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.
1Jo 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin [which is] not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
1Jo 5:17 All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.
1Jo 5:18 ¶ We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
1Jo 5:19 [And] we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.
1Jo 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, [even] in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
1Jo 5:21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.
15 years for me.
But I was married 5 years once before, and we were only together 2 of the 5 years.
Never had kids with the first one, and my wife today couldn't have kids.
But we do this kind of a big brother program and take in other peoples kids.
And we've been asked by two different mothers to take their kids permanently.
Its a little shocking after you get to know a family and then the parent asks you to permanently adopt their kids I guess its a nice compliment....
And we've been made godparents four times from doing this big brother program.